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Stuart Cooper
2004-04-15, 07:23
David/JQ,

According to HMCE themselves, this is how the charges are applied:

Squeezebox wired = $199 + $55 shipping = $254 = £141.11 (@ 1.80 exchange
rate). All duties are levied on the total (shipping included) cost, so
you will then be charged approx 5% import duty and then 17.5% VAT plus
an additional £10 for onward delivery by Parcel Force who will collect
your payment from you. That makes a total of £184.09

HMCE have officials at all the major sorting offices now as well as at
Ports of entry - their aim is to open and check every parcel and they
claim to be achieving the vast majority, particularly with bulky items.

Also, if you buy from lil ole me you won’t have to ship it all the way
back to the US in the rare event of it having a problem. :-)

I hope this helps...

Stuart
www.multitask-computing.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of David Cullen
Sent: 15 April 2004 09:27
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] New pricing on Squeezebox


JQ - these folk in the UK have the wired one for £179 inc VAT and
shipping (the only place on the net that appears to have the wired one).
£18 more than if you were to end up paying 17.5% VAT when it came into
the UK...

ie. $199 + 17.5% = $234 + $55 = $289 = £161 = give or take a few pennies
depending on exchange rate etc. Also can't remember if UK customs charge
an admin fee or not..

Of course it might come in and not get caught and then you'd be quids
in!!

http://www.multitask-computing.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_i
d=16
8

Wondering which way to go myself!

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com]On Behalf Of
john (AT) quirkshop (DOT) co.uk
Sent: 15 April 2004 09:09
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] New pricing on Squeezebox


Anyone have any idea if this price saving is going to be available over
here in the UK. The $55 shipping cost from the US hurts a bit, but the
standard pricing for the Squeezebox wired doesn't seem to have changed
anywhere over here.

Would I be best ordering from the US and paying the shipping, or hanging
fire if the UK pricesa re going to catch up with the US?

Thanks

JQ

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Marty
2004-04-15, 07:33
Very excited to get it. If anyone has any "new user" tips that would save
me trouble, or would just be cool to know, feel free to drop post. I'll be
running the server software on my server that has Windows 2000 server
edition running on it.

Marty

Marty
2004-04-15, 07:48
SB has both coaxial and optical digital outs, I wanted to know if one of the
digital outs is somehow better than the other, as far as sound quality goes.
My Amplifier only has 2 digital ins, and I'm already using the optical in
for my DVD player. The other digital in is coaxial, so I'll be using the
coaxial, just wondering if there was a difference.


Marty

Daniel Cohen
2004-04-15, 08:53
On 15/4/04 at 10:48 am -0400, Marty wrote
>SB has both coaxial and optical digital outs, I wanted to know if one of the
>digital outs is somehow better than the other, as far as sound quality goes.
>My Amplifier only has 2 digital ins, and I'm already using the optical in
>for my DVD player. The other digital in is coaxial, so I'll be using the
>coaxial, just wondering if there was a difference.

I'm still using analog. But I asked my hi-fi dealer, and he
*immediately* said that optical was better. But it may depend on the
quality of cables, I get the impression from what have read that an
average co-ax may be better than an average optical.
--
Daniel Cohen

Michel Fombellida
2004-04-15, 12:18
Hi,

The main advantage of optical cables is the electrical isolation they provide.
If you have isolation issues or ground loops in your system, going optical
would have a real advantage.

Beside that, I've read that toslink may generate more jitter then coax and that
toslink also has a more limited bandwidth. That's being said there are also
different qualities of toslink: plastic and glass (glass being apparently
better). Until now, I have not spent time comparing digital cables but I have
recently ordered some glass toslink to test on the squeezebox and compare them
to very cheap plastic toslink and quite good coax. I'll post here when I have
tested them.

Finally being able to hear differences between digital cables will also depend
on your system ability to reveal these (sometimes tiny) differences.

Michel

T
2004-04-15, 13:32
> Beside that, I've read that toslink may generate more jitter then coax and
that
> toslink also has a more limited bandwidth.

Having built some TOS/SPDIF/AES-EBU interfaces, the TOS is definitely the
most problamatic. TOS uses visible LEDs, and trying to get usable waveforms
out of a TOS link is indead an art form (which is why TOS goes a few meters
and optical AES-EBU a few km).

Tom

Steve Baumgarten
2004-04-15, 13:59
> The main advantage of optical cables is the electrical isolation they
> provide. If you have isolation issues or ground loops in your system,
> going optical would have a real advantage.

This is basically the only advantage Toslink has over coax. My cable
company is happy to supply me with a nice ground loop hum, included for
free with my cable subscription; however, since the only connection
between my DVD player and my audio system is an all-plastic Toslink cable,
I never have to deal with it.

Otherwise, digital coax is just as good and in fact typically makes a more
solid connection (less worry of it coming loose if things get moved
around). And it's cheaper.

SBB

Larry J. Brackney
2004-04-15, 14:15
My understanding from when I researched this many moons back was
that coax was better for pulse code modulated (PCM) audio signals.
Supposedly TOS connections can introduce reflections in the PCM signal
which can distort it. That said, I could never detect any difference
but I don't have golden ears either. :)

- larry