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whitman
2008-10-28, 07:39
Anyone managed to get AAC Plus streams playing through Slimserver on a Mac?

I looked at the wiki entry...

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/AACplus

I'm using Mac OSX 10.5.5, Slimserver 6.5.1, Squeezebox 3. The wiki says I must have mplayer of at least 1.0pre8. It says at Step 1, for Macintosh, "download the GUI version". I've no idea what that is. At the linked site, mplayerhq, the Mac version offered appears to be 1.0rc2, which I suspect is the one I already have in order to use AlienBBC, and which, says the wiki, won't play AAC plus.

Any idea, chaps? I'm aiming to hear the good-quality stream from the UK's revitalised JazzFM, which is AAC Plus.

bpa
2008-10-28, 08:10
If you have AlienBBC running then you do not need to install another copy of mplayer.

For SC 7.x you should be following the post linked from the WIki
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=272774&postcount=19

This has no info on OSX.

whitman
2008-10-28, 10:48
But I have no AAC Plus entries listed in Slimserver's file formats in prefs. My understanding from the wiki is that I need a later version of mplayer to have that facility. I want to listen to JazzFM using 'Tune In URL'.

bpa
2008-10-28, 11:43
You should be checking Settings/Advanced/Filetypes and not the prefs file.

It looks like the installation of the plugin attached to the post has not been successful.

Double check the installation and don't forget to restart SC.

The issue about mplayer is only important when you have AACplus filettypes.

What version of SC ?
Have you a working version of AlienBBC installed ?

whitman
2008-10-28, 15:21
Sorry bpa, I think I confused you.

I meant Settings etc, not prefs: that's where I looked. No AAC Plus filenames there.

Here's the thing: I'm assuming that in order to play an AAC Plus stream, such as JazzFM's, through the 'Tune In URL' facility, I need a newer version of mplayer that will add the AAC Plus filenames to Settings.

And I'm in turn confused by your mention of a plugin. What plugin?

bpa
2008-10-28, 15:25
mplayer will not add any filetype to SC - it is all within conf files.

As I mentioned in post #2 of this thread, the necessary AACplus plugin for SC7 is attached to the following post
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=272774&postcount=19

bpa
2008-10-28, 15:27
Sorry, Ignore the above - I see from post 1 you are running 6.5.x

You need to make changes to the conf files as described in the wiki to get AACplus support. Mplayer will not do anyhting for filetypes

Have you changed the conf files ?

whitman
2008-10-29, 08:36
Thanks bpa. I can't open convert.conf or types.conf. I'm getting a 'there is no default app specified to open the document' message. Any idea how I get into them?

danco
2008-10-29, 09:20
They are plain text files, so any text editor can open them.

I think TextEdit would be fine, but I can't recall if one has to do anything special to preserve Unix line endings. You may have to tell it to make the text plain text format, not rtf.

bpa
2008-10-29, 11:10
Whitman,

I'll post appropriate ready made conf files to test but need to know if you have AlienBBC working or not ?

whitman
2008-10-29, 15:12
That's very kind of you, bpa. Yes, AlienBBC is working fine.

bpa
2008-10-30, 09:22
Attached are replacement AlienBBC conf files.

Download the attachements - rename them so that they lose the ".txt" ( which was necessary as an attachement to the post".

Save the original AlienBBC conf files in case you need to revert.

Copy the 2 conf file from this post into the Alien folder - replacing the existing conf files.

Restart SC.

Check Settings/Filetypes - there should be 3 new "mplayer" entries with no name (to give name requires editing the AlienBBC plugin.pm file).

If the blank filetypes are present check by playing as known aacplus stream.

whitman
2008-10-30, 10:16
Bpa: they worked a treat. Thanks so much for this and all previous help. Much appreciated.

bpa
2008-10-30, 10:22
I need to updaste/correct the wiki entry. When the wiki was re-organised, it scrambled the lines to be added to conf files and the wiki entry is now incorrect.

whitman
2008-10-30, 15:04
I think that would be a good idea. I must say if my experience is typical, readers might find it hard to follow as it stands.

bpa
2008-10-30, 15:26
Limitation of 6.5 made it difficult to simplify. For 7.x - there is a minimal "plugin" which simplifies installation (except for mplayer) to a single unzip and restart

whitman
2008-10-31, 03:05
Understood. I really must get from 6.5 to 7 ... though I'm largely of the 'if it ain't broke' mentality. Still, the iPlayer plugin and a few other goodies are making it increasingly tempting to take the plunge. But while we're on the subject, there's no good (wiki or otherwise) instructions about upgrading 6.5 to 7.x for Mac that I can find.

bpa
2008-10-31, 04:04
there's no good (wiki or otherwise) instructions about upgrading 6.5 to 7.x for Mac that I can find.

You're right but since it is 10 months since 7.0 - there is unlikely one to be written.

Not upgrading unless you really have to or you have a clean start (e.g. new PC) is a very sensible approach. If you do upgrade allow for 2-3 weeks settling down time when things don't all work as well as they used to. If you expect this delay then you will not be disappointed and if upgrade goes smoothly - then you'll be happy.

If you do decide to upgrade then you will then decide which version
7.2.1 has just been released or 7.3 which is planned for early Dec.
Immediate Plugin compatability for 7.3 may not true for all plugins.

General Points to watch.

1. Directory naming may change - Slimserver to Squeezecenter. Plugins organisation changes and so locations of plugins may also change. There are now two directories for plugins - one for users and one for SC internal plugins. Make sure users plugins are installed in the correct directory.
2. Make sure you know all the Plugins you use and locate all updated versions before upgrading to 7.x. Be careful - some plugins will not work with all version of 7.x. Check for any "gotchas" such as Last.fm if not in UK/US/Germany so you know what to expect.
3. Make a note of preferences - the upgrade should migrate them all but some may be forgotten (especially plugins).
4. Backup your entire Slimserver installation so that you can revert quickly if the upgrade goes pear-shaped.
5. Manage expectations of other users.
6. Don't upgrade anything else at the same time
7. Check system specs. User interface changes with 7.x which can be more CPU intensive. The old user interface is still available as Classic but some Settings are only accessible with the new interface.