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Mark Lanctot
2008-10-16, 06:54
I'm particularly interested in the forum members with older players back when this stuff was really obscure...

This thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53642 prompted me to think about when I first heard of Slim Devices.

I probably heard of the Squeezebox from the AVS Forum. The main stumbling block for me was price and the fact that it was 802.11b with WEP. However I thought SlimServer was very cool, installed it and played with it. I guess I'm easily impressed, I thought it was very neat that it ran a remote web server that could be controlled over the network. At that time I started cleaning up my tags and ripping my CDs to FLAC. Eventually I uninstalled SlimServer as it wasn't doing anything for me and I almost forgot about Slim Devices.

Fast-forward to October 2005 when (again through AVS Forums) I learned about the SB3. I went to the website where I discovered the remaining SB2s were on sale. The SB2 addressed the issues I had with the SB1 and seeing as it was on sale and money was better for me at the time, I dove in.

I wrote a review article for a computer forum I was active in at the time, ABX Forum, but I posted it here first for comments. Sean Adams wondered why I was reviewing the SB2 and an older version of SS (6.0.2?) and sent me an SB3 for review.

I was thinking of a use for 2 players at the time, so when the review period was over I ended up buying that SB3. The rest is history...

So what are your stories?

mherger
2008-10-16, 07:04
About 5 years ago I had been looking for some server based music distribution, fiddling with NetJuke and a Zaurus(!) PDA as a player in the living room. Somebody in the NetJuke forums then mentioned a software called "SlimServer". Which I immediately liked for it's great web interface. After a while I realised that the company offered some hardware player too... Must have been september 2003 when I ordered my first SliMP3.

--

Michael

bklaas
2008-10-16, 07:14
I wanted to buy the original SliMp3 in about 2002/3(?), but at the time I had a $300 gift certificate to Amazon.com. I actually phoned up Slimdevices at the time to see if they sold through Amazon (they didn't)...knowing now SD's garage/lab roots, I probably talked to Sean on his cell phone...

Anyway, I ended up with a Turtle Beach Audiotron for a year or so before I got fed up with its shortcomings (but not before I wrote an audioscrobbler script for it. Woot!). I ebayed it to some dude in Saskatchewan to free up squeezebox funds.

I bought an "SB1-G", and would have gotten it in the awesome "Purple Haze" color had they not been sold out. I got "platinum" instead, and it still is in working order.

Fast-forward a few years, add another SB1-G (black), two SB3s, a Transporter, and now a few Booms. It's a cool evolution to have been part of...I find myself hacking on the controller a lot these days :)

#!/ben

cliveb
2008-10-16, 07:19
So what are your stories?
I bought a Rio Karma MP3 player (probably late 2004 or early 2005). Of course I had to rip a selection of CDs for use on it. So I ended up with a portion of our music library on the household server, and started wondering whether there was any way to feed it into the main stereo system. I never even considered that it could replace CDs for serious listening.

That's when I investigated the Squeezebox (I'd vaguely heard about it before, but hadn't taken any notice). I speculatively bought a wired-only SB2 in April 2005 to see what it could do, figuring I could always sell it on for not too much of a loss.

It was a revelation - truly one of those "road to Damascus" moments when some aspect of your life (in this case they way we listen to music) changes radically. It quickly became obvious I was going to have to rip all our CDs in FLAC format. A Transporter was added in December 2006 (the price of which was more than covered by selling my high-end CD player and preamp) and the SB2 was relocated to the kitchen.

Mike Meyer
2008-10-16, 07:24
Back in 2005, I was looking for a way to stream all my music to the 'good speakers' and my research turned up the Turtle Beach Audiotron. I was all set to buy one and it had already been discontinued even though most of the reviews I read had been positive. I waited a while to see if they were coming out with a new version or something. The Roku Soundbridge was also considered.

Then I saw the SB2 reviews and was able to get one for $190 so I took the plunge. I'd like to to thank Turtle Beach for discontinuing the Audiotron line.

mattybain
2008-10-16, 07:52
It was early 2004, just returning back from 3 years spent working in the electronic wilderness known as Australia ;) . Actually remember the first time I found Slimdevices on the web was at an internet cafe in Stellenbosch, South Africa whilst travelling on my way back.

After my return in Dec 2003 and a bit of research I made a beeline for a place near Derby that was selling SB 1's and must have picked it up on Jan 2nd after it reopened for the new year.

Knew instantly it was the way forward and since then have bought every iteration of SB save for the ripoff (in terms) transporter.

Actually now I think about it I found out and ordered the SB2 in Sweden and the SB3 in India!!

slimpy
2008-10-16, 08:05
I bought my first SliMP3 probably in early 2003. It already came with the custom remote and not the Sony remote that came with the first batch of players.
I can't remember if I had read about the SliMP3 online or in a magazine but I was thrilled by the whole streaming concept and the SliMP3 seemed to be only (or one of very few) streaming devices at the time that had a display.

I probably wouldn't have bought one if there hadn't been a local supplier (K55 in Zurich).
It's still one of the best devices I have ever bought (together with all the SD products that followed).

-s.

mherger
2008-10-16, 08:22
> It's still one of the best devices I have ever bought (together with
> all the SD products that followed).

Did I mention it changed my life?

--

Michael

snarlydwarf
2008-10-16, 08:35
I bought my first SB a bit over 3 years ago: I had been using a program on Linux to manage my music and allow a different form of network play (lots of browsers, command lines, etc, but only one player). It was frustrating since it had a ton of hard-coded limits (it -hated- my Dylan collection and would stop counting tracks to Dylan after 200 I think... which was useless).

I installed SqueezeServer as a replacement, and was very impressed... a week later I bought a wireless router and ordered an SB2 for the bedroom... which lasted a couple of weeks before I realized that being 'free' to listen to music in the bedroom was silly: I also needed to listen to music in the living room... so I ordered another...

I can't say it changed my life as much as mherger's, but it certainly changed how I listen to music, and the amount of music I own.

I still have to rip-n-tag the wife's music... but she accepts the SB as an alarm clock and loves Pandora.

kolding
2008-10-16, 08:37
I'd been dancing around SliMP3's for a while. At first I'd been looking for a device to bring my music to the stereo without having to have 500 CD's in my small living room. A friend said "look at this one" and pointed me to SlimDevices. I promptly ignored it. Then, I visited some friends who had one, and it looked so cool there, glowing in the dark. I was unemployed at the time, so I didn't get one. Finally, when I found a job, my girlfriend (now wife) bought me a SliMP3 as a present. It actually made listening to music fun again; no digging through piles of CD's scattered in multiple rooms, trying to figure out what you wanted, and not finding it when you did.

First was the SliMP3, hooked up via a 802.11b bridge. Then a SB1G for the bedroom. Then an SB2 to replace the SliMP3 with it's crappy network bridge. Then a new house, and an SB3 for the living room. Finally the Boom arrived, and a great case for retiring the SB1 came about.

Secret Squirrel
2008-10-16, 08:45
I have a very similar story just slightly different ;) It all started for me somewhere around 2000, I think. The CD player in my car took a dump and rather than ripe up the dash or spend the cash to replace the trunk unit I purchased an Archos 2000. I then started ripping my music collection to MP3's and then happily transmitted an FM signal from the Archos to the car's radio. Then, in 2002, we built a new house and I wired it for central stereo and wired network. It was then I started looking for some network player that I could interface into the house system. For years it was just lusting around the Net drooling because all our cash had gone into the house. Somewhere around 2004 I was pretty firm on getting a Roku but just as I was about to make a purchase Slim announced the SB2. The wired version and open source, I'm a geek afterall, made the decision a no-brainer. I then set out on a mission to convert to FLAC with the addition of replay gain. We've impressed many visitors with our whole-house stereo that "never needs the music changed", however, the prospect of the Boom (& a necessitated wireless network for everyone's laptop/iPhone) new areas now have the possibility of music (my workshop and garage). I still haven't dusted off the credit card yet, but a Boom is definitely on my Christmas list.

My music life was changed forever and continues to get better and better!

SS

dem
2008-10-16, 08:50
I bought an AudioTron in 2003 and really liked it. I anxiously awaited rumored follow-on products from Turtle Beach that would supposedly add support for things like FLAC and ReplayGain, and hopefully do away with the pea-soup-green display. But Turtle Beach killed the AudioTron, forcing me to look elsewhere.

Then along came the SB3 with native FLAC support and the "Smart" ReplayGain feature. I liked that the AudioTron didn't required any server software, but being able to test drive SlimServer let me get comfortable with it. Also, Linux support is a big deal to me, since my music was already stored on a home-built NAS running Linux.

SuperQ
2008-10-16, 09:00
I saw the slimp3 a long time ago, but I couldn't afford it at the time. After a friend showed me his squeezebox 1, I ended up buying one for my parrents, and then a SB2 for myself, and it's just been snowballing from there.

Before I had various squeezeboxes, I had a PC attached to my stereo. I got tired of the noise, and wanted something that would keep the computer tucked away in the basement.

kc5f
2008-10-16, 09:42
Well, somebody's gotta be new, right? I read about the Duet about two months ago and grabbed it a little over a month ago when it was on sale and had a discount as well at Circuit City. I love it!

Mark Lanctot
2008-10-16, 10:07
Well, somebody's gotta be new, right?

With the references in this thread to SliMP3s and SB1s, I feel like the new one too. :-)

pfarrell
2008-10-16, 11:08
In 1999, some friends and I started a dot.com music company,
OneBigCD.com. We had a great idea, a store and a locker for internet
music. All of us wanted a better way to manage our CD collections.

I had outgrown a 200 CD Sony jukebox, and had a 301 CD Pioneer. It
worked OK, but management was not good.

We ripped CDs in two formats (mp3 and wma) and at five speeds (dialup
was still common). Thus I knew about ripping, management issues, etc. By
the time the RIAA fully flip-flopped, going from "sure, that will sell
more music" to "evil and illegal collection" -- which shut down the
company -- we had ripped 40,000 CDs.

I knew that using a computer to store the files and manage the database
of meta data was the solution.

The initial Slimp3 came out towards the end of the company, and we all
knew about it. But I was not interested in a MP3-only product.

I bought an early SB1 when they came out, and added two more SB1G soon
thereafter.

It changed my musical life. Before SqueezeBox, I had about 250 CDs. Now,
I have about 800. And I have a Transporter, Duet and Boom.

--
Pat Farrell
http://www.pfarrell.com/

peter
2008-10-16, 11:38
Mark Lanctot wrote:
> I'm particularly interested in the forum members with older players back
> when this stuff was -really- obscure...
>
> This thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53642
> prompted me to think about when I first heard of Slim Devices.
>

I actually wanted a SliMP3 before they even existed. I wrote in a
newsgroup in february 2001:

"I guess my ideal device would just play network streams that were sent
to it via ethernet. Ethernet in, line out. The software on the
computer would handle everything else.

OK, maybe add a display that can be controlled from the network as
well as a IR receiver that can send command codes back. All
intelligence would reside in the (Linux) server.

I'm just waiting until someone with the means gets the same idea and
builds something affordable."

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.home.automation/msg/b99c1b2d71ec5f27?hl=en&


At that time the SD guys probably were already busy with their soldering
irons. When the SliMP3 came out I recognized my 'dream machine' and I
just had to get one. At that time I was traveling around the world and I
bought one as soon as I got home. I guess I was lucky to get one with a
back cover ;)

Regards,
Peter

MrSinatra
2008-10-16, 15:50
i think it was 2004 or 2005, not sure which, (it was shortly b4 the SB3 was announced). basically, i wanted a way to listen to a webstream for "the LION" without needing a computer on at all.

i forget exactly how i heard about slim, if it was on cnet or tomshardware or maybe even the now defunct tech tv, (g4 SUCKS, i miss the screensavers)...

anyway, i have to say that i have been disappointed with it as a standalone solution to listen to the lion, it simply does not do it well. i have computers in other rooms that can ALWAYS stream it wirelessly on winamp np, but SN/SB2 or even SC proxied just can't do it reliably. its gotten to the point where i have basically given up for now. i'll probably wait until i get some things done here on my side, and they get 7.3 out on theirs, b4 i start bringing it up again.

however, as a "jukebox" for my local stuff, i am happy with it, and thats why i've stuck with it. also, the SBC is truly a great device, and shows the real power of the solution.

if they could get my lion issues solved, i'd have no major issues at this point with it.

funkstar
2008-10-16, 16:44
I first heard of SlimDevices from a Slashdot article about Sean building the first units in his garage. The old website and photos are available through the Way Back Machine (http://web.archive.org/web/20010922131911/http://www.slimdevices.com/). Thats back in September 2001, and wanted a SliMP3 ever since.

I'd been a mailing list subscriber for years before buying nay equipment, I remember I used to read all the CVS checkins to see what new cool features were being worked on. I could never justify the cost though, but ever iteration of the hardware got more and more exciting.

The SB2 I thought was killer. Full software decoder, decent DAC, full 802.11g, sounded just the device for me. I think I was just about to buy a SB2 when the SB3 was released. I can't remember if i was a forum member by that point of still on the mailing lists (i think it was still the lists) and found out about the SB3 through checkins for new graphics that appeared just before the announcement.

After that it was pretty inevitable, I wanted one of these things pretty bad. Got a deal from a re-seller for two so ended up with one in the living room and one in the bedroom. The bedroom unit is still where it's been since, connected to a set of HarmonKardon SoundStick IIs. The Livingroom unit took a brief break when I was sent a Reciever for being part of the Controller beta testing, I missed the screen though. It's now been replaced permenantly by the Boom, which I totally love. That SB3 is now at my parents place though so still going.

I've also bought a SliMP3 and a silver SB2, would quite like a SB1 and SB1G (and of course a transporter) to round of my collection though :)

86atc250r
2008-10-16, 17:30
My parents were building a new & large house.

Instead of running analog speaker cable all over the house and deal with all the issues involved with that, I started searching google for IP Audio Distribution. I also slipped some "synchronization" keywords here and there because they like to entertain & being able to sync the music was a must.

I first ran across only a couple solutions. Then I found the Sonos stuff. It looked cool but was a bit pricey & I didn't like the fact that their high dollar remote had a fixed. non-replaceable battery.

After finding Sonos, I saw some people comparing their setup to a device called the "squeezebox", so I came over here to look around. I liked the open source flexibility - another big selling point for me was I was able to demo the system for free and without obligation.

I downloaded softsqueeze to three laptops, set up a slim server on a desktop and proceeded to sync them to an internet radio station. Very Cool! I figured if it worked that well with a java software client, running on wireless laptops, to an internet radio station no less - the hardware should run great.

The only thing was that the LCD remote of the Sonos system was very cool, however, the expense, the non replaceable battery, and the fact that it was a closed system (meaning your hostage to how often they decide to update & add features) held me back.

I bought my first squeezebox & shortly after that, I saw that a controller was being worked on & in the beta stages, Excellent!

Now I have a Squeezebox, a Duet, a software player, and a Boom. They get used almost daily (in fact, I'm listening to Radio Paradise right now).

That all said, I still haven't talked my parents into populating their new house with any audio devices....

MeSue
2008-10-16, 17:56
I had dreamed of what the Squeeze products could do since I was about 13 years old. At the time, though, I thought the only way to get it was to own my own radio station, so that was my goal in life at 13. Later, as a poor newlywed in the early 90s, I splurged on a 5-disc CD changer. That got me one step closer to my dream.

In the late 90s, we relocated out here to the boonies. I had no job and no friends here, but I had a computer so I could teach myself stuff. Ripping CDs was one of the things I learned, and since it got me one step closer to my dream, and I had nothing better to do, I ripped my entire CD collection. Now my dream of music on demand was getting close, but it was confined to when I was at the computer. Which was most of the time since I had no job and no friends. ;-)

My computer learning led me to land the job I have now, and that job soon led to me having a laptop and getting wireless networking in the house. Not long after we had a wireless network, I began to realize there had to be a way to utilize it to spread music around the house.

I started researching network music players and that is how I learned about Slim Devices. I thought the Squeezebox 2 was way expensive, and I was looking for more of an all-in-one player with built-in speakers. I found this thing called the HomePod which was pretty darn ugly, but it sounded like exactly what I wanted and I bought one. Well, that was an awful thing and fortunately I got my money back on it. I took the refund from that and some birthday cash, and I bought my SB2 in May of 2005.

THE DREAM OF A 13 YEAR OLD FINALLY FULFILLED!

I also considered the Roku, but my diligent research while waiting for the birthday cash led me to dismiss that as an option. Being able to test the system with SlimServer and SoftSqueeze was a big plus!

Then I started posting on this forums about my dream Squeezebox Boombox, and much to my surprise, I was invited to beta test one in 2008. :-) Now I have 2 Booms and a Duet and hubby has the the SB2 out in his shop.

maggior
2008-10-16, 18:41
I wasn't smart enough to envision a product like this when I was 13.

Back in 1999 when I got my first CD burner and learned about DAE, I also dabbled with mp3. I started burning mp3 CDs to use with my RioVolt. My vision was a PC set up next to the stereo with a small unobtrusive CRT where I could cue music up with and play straight from the PC.

In 2002, I got married and my vision of a PC connected to the stereo was never fulfilled. Actually, all of my CDs were to be stored in the basement in our new house!! And a PC in the family room was not an option!

I don't actually remember where I first heard of SlimDevices - it was most likely in the Hydrogen Audio forums.

I remember downloading slimserver and installing it and being not very impressed. How exactly did I play music with this thing??? Then, about a year later, I read more about it and my curiosity was piqued again. This time I understood the concept. I loaded up SoftSqueeze on my laptop and gave it a whirl. This was way cool...this had great possibilities. The beta version of the server also supported gapless playback!!!! Lack of this feature is what kept me from buying a Roku Soundbridge.

I demoed it for my wife while we were watching TV on the couch. She thought it was cool. Finally a solution to not having to trek downstairs to get a CD to listen to. She also thought it was small and unobtrusive enough for the family room. I got the green light! This was all in late 2005. I was a bit late to the party :-).

Now I have 2 SB3s, a duet, and an SBR. It's been the perfect solution for us! I'm curious to see how this will expand and how our kids' listening habits will be integrated with the setup (they are 21 months and 4 1/2 now, with another due on 4/15).

hoosier
2008-10-16, 20:51
Back in late 2002, I remember wanting a device to play music through my stereo. I had an Archos Studio 20GB player, and that was OK as long as you didn't mind the same playlist over and over.

I was searching through Amazon and came across the Audiotron. I really wanted it, but didn't want to spend the money - I was about to become a Dad. In one of the reviews for the Audiotron, somebody wrote that the Slimp3 was the best device ever, so I did some more research. I found Slim Devices and Roku. Roku was about to release their player any day, and it looked a lot cooler than a Squeezebox. I pondered on which was better for a few months. After a few months, Roku was still about to relase their player any day. I finally couldn't wait anymore and bought the Squeezebox. I think six months later Roku was still about to release their player any day, and I was very happy with my SB1. We lived in a city loft (two bedrooms and one big room where all the interior walls only went up about 70% of the ceiling height - 12'), so one squeezebox could fill the whole place with music.

I would sit with my newborn daughter and play an eclectic mix of tunes until she would fall asleep.

My only complaint was the horrible display (by today's standards) on the SB1. When the Graphic upgrade was released, I think I was one of the first to order the upgrade kit.

About a year later, the wife wanted a yard, so we moved to suburbia and got a standard house with a yard. I decided I needed whole house audio since I basically had that in the city. I bought an SBG for my daughters room, and picked up a Purple Haze for the master bedroom.

About 3 months later the SB2 came out and I felt a little cheated (I didn't get a pony). When the SB3 was released, I was about to have my son, so I bought two of them. I now have 5 players, some decent whole house audio, and if I have to listen to the theme from the Lion King again, I may very well go nuts.

I've gone from Slimserver 5.2 up to SC7.2 and my daughter's SB plays non stop Disney 24-7. I don't know what's more impressive, the SB or the homemade dual Xeon P3 450 that's been serving up the music for the last 5+ years.

Truly a great product.

pablolie
2008-10-16, 22:37
I had been playing around with digitizing CDs to record my own compllation albums forever. For many years, I went about it very wrong, ripping stuff on the quick using WMP, and mostly just keeping track of the latest few CDs I had recorded for myself. Basically it was a linear continuation of the days when I recorded cassettes with a lot of love on a TEAC 6030S, but just with digital convenience thrown in.

Then I bought a an iRock MP3 player, my review at the time can be read
http://www10.epinions.com/review/pr-Irock_860_MP3_Player/content_133668048516
It utterly convinced me that in a few years I would not be touching CDs anymore. As a frequent traveller, the ability to carry high quality music around was fantastic.

Then, I am not sure what I was looking for, but a Google search got me on the Slim Devices page. In February '06 my first SB3 was delivered, and I went about the arduous task of ripping over 2,000 CDs in high quality (I settled on dbpoweramp, in case you wonder). And kept adding a Slim devices box at a rate of 1 every 5 months or so, I have 4 SB3, 1 Duet and 2 Booms these days.

And my CDs spend never make it out of their cabinets anymore.

scalesr1
2008-10-16, 22:53
I think it must have been some time on 2001 but we had just decided to
decorate and as part of the preparation an entire wall rack of CD's had to
be taken off the wall and stored.

After the painting was done it was time to put the whole thing back up. I
had already used a PC to store music for parties that I would play via
playlists and as I assessed the task of putting all these cd's back on to
the freshly painted wall I thought that there had to be a better way.

It did not take much research before Audiotron and Slimdevices were found.
Once I saw a picture of the Slimp3 I was hooked. It did exactly what I
needed - play my ripped CD collection from a central store - distributed
over Ethernet with a cool display and remote. I found a UK reseller and
ordered one immediately.

It worked out the box, everyone was impressed, 4 friends of mine did the
same. A few years later we moved to a new house which we had built - fully
wired Cat5 to all rooms for obvious reasons.

We have awaited each new product release with eager anticipation - the SB1,
then upgrading it to an SB1G, then the SB2 (wired and then Wifi) which we
use mostly. I have only recently added an SB3 just because I wanted another
unit.

I think I must be a very much 'old school' user as the idea of a player
without a display is a tough one for me - and to have a neat colour LCD
based controller that could easily get dropped (you should meet my family!)
would not be good right now!

Historically I have always ripped to MP3 but recently I have performed some
tests with Flac files and despite many years of seeing Rush Live - I could
hear a difference immediately. Now, when I get the chance - I shall have to
teach some children how to open a CD case, pop it into a PC and rip it to
Flac - x 500.

'I want a squeezebox boombox' and will be getting one when funds permit. I
like the look of the Transporter but it would be wasted on me.

I love the products, they have always worked, never had any real problems
with Slimserver/Squeezecenter and I love my weatherdisplay plugin. When I
have the time - I would like to write a plugin that could give me the local
wind forecast for the coming days. Being keen divers - if it always said
less than 10 knots - that would do!


Regards

Richard Scales
2 x slimp3, 1 x SB1G, 4 x SB2, 1 x SB3



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Subject: [slim] Just curious: when/why did you get your first Slim/Logitech
player?


I'm particularly interested in the forum members with older players back
when this stuff was -really- obscure...

This thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53642
prompted me to think about when I first heard of Slim Devices.

I probably heard of the Squeezebox from the AVS Forum. The main
stumbling block for me was price and the fact that it was 802.11b with
WEP. However I thought SlimServer was very cool, installed it and
played with it. I guess I'm easily impressed, I thought it was very
neat that it ran a remote web server that could be controlled over the
network. At that time I started cleaning up my tags and ripping my CDs
to FLAC. Eventually I uninstalled SlimServer as it wasn't doing
anything for me and I almost forgot about Slim Devices.

Fast-forward to October 2005 when (again through AVS Forums) I learned
about the SB3. I went to the website where I discovered the remaining
SB2s were on sale. The SB2 addressed the issues I had with the SB1 and
seeing as it was on sale and money was better for me at the time, I dove
in.

I wrote a review article for a computer forum I was active in at the
time, ABX Forum, but I posted it here first for comments. Sean Adams
wondered why I was reviewing the SB2 and an older version of SS
(6.0.2?) and sent me an SB3 for review.

I was thinking of a use for 2 players at the time, so when the review
period was over I ended up buying that SB3. The rest is history...

So what are your stories?


--
Mark Lanctot

Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta)
Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery)
Sold: SB3, Duet
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Kuben72
2008-10-16, 23:04
Well I am a much newer fan (8 months). But for the last 2 years I have been looking for a solution that made everyone in the household in a position to listen to his/hers personally favorits of music. From my younger days I have a big cd collection but I as I got married and got kids I ended up never been able to listen it. So I starting searching the internet for a solution that could solve my problems. I found Sonos and SlimDevices(Duet). After checking both solutions I ended up choosing SlimDevices(Duet) because of the opensource server and the much cooler design.
And now I have 1 Duet, 1 SBR and 2 SB3. And we listen to our cd's all the time. It's at great system.

Pale Blue Ego
2008-10-17, 03:47
I had been messing around with mp3s since around 1997, and in 1999 I had one of the first network mp3 players, the RequestAudio. The Request was okay, but it was expensive ($800), the sound chip was low quality, the capacity was limited to 17GB, and you needed to have a TV on to use it.

It was possible to hack the box and add a larger hard drive, and the company was fairly responsive to customer ideas, but they were really going for the custom install market. When they brought out their 2nd generation units the prices were $2500 and $3500, and the company was less interested in helping the early adopters who had "only" spent $800.

I already had a home network and a Linux file server with 40 or 50 GB worth of music on it, so the SliMP3 was the perfect solution. I sold the Request and bought the SliMP3 and have never looked back. Slim's solution of letting the PC do most of the work while a small, silent player handles the audio end, was brilliant. And I was blown away that my original purchase kept getting better and better with each new software release. We now have a house full of Slim players.

sand
2008-10-17, 04:01
You should make a poll!
I got my SB3's in 2007 and 2008.

trotsky10
2008-10-17, 06:29
I got my SB3 in June 2006. This was after I had purchased a Cambridge Audio music server which due to software problems I sent back. The Cambridge audio server's sound was unbelievable I have to admit (to this day haven't heard a Transporter)so I was quite sorry to see it go but after doing research and I came across the Squeezebox 3 . Since day 1 I have not had any big problems with it and all my cds in flac played over my wireless pre-n network. I am completely enamoured with this kit. With Custom Menus and Track stat and plugge dinto my external DAC I have my ideal player.

Now to write that Networked Media Tank skin .....

Mark Lanctot
2008-10-17, 11:34
Oh, I remember why I got interested in the Squeezebox...

At first I thought computer-based playback was the answer and invested in a good soundcard and good speakers. But it just never sounded as good as my home theatre system. Eventually I finally gave it up and decided that I should stop throwing money at my computer. By that time I had ripped many of my CDs.

The Squeezebox allowed me to take my existing computer-based audio files and play them through a proper playback system.

Mike White
2008-10-17, 15:12
It was probably about 6 or 8 months before SqueezeNetwork went live. We live in an area that simply cannot get FM (or AM for that matter) in the house, and only weak signals in the car. It wasn't a problem for years, as we were simply able to pick up the FM signals on our cable TV. The the cable provider simply shut that off in February and we were stuck without the ability to listen to music except on our single CD player. One of our local radio stations sent out an email, talking about the SB2, and after looking at it for about an hour, I ordered one, and have been using it ever since.

I have ripped our music collection, but the vast majority of our listening is to various radio stations around the world.

Nonreality
2008-10-17, 18:06
I had been streaming music to my stereo for about 2 years with a phillips device. It worked pretty well but it would stream everything from my computer including the system sounds. I read about the SB3 in Jan of this year and promptly ordered one. It's the best thing I have bought. I've told all my friends that it's well worth much more than the price they charge. We all buy gadgets and some are worth the money and some are not. This is one that goes far beyond what we pay for it.

maggior
2008-10-17, 19:16
We all buy gadgets and some are worth the money and some are not. This is one that goes far beyond what we pay for it.

I agree wholeheartedly! How many devices can you buy that even years afterward the initial purchase, major features are being added for free!

For me, the SBs have gone beyond being mere gadgets - they are essential equipment in my home, much like a TV or a CD player in the past.

kdf
2008-10-17, 21:32
I heard about Slimp3 on Slashdot. I guess it must have been the first
review. According to some comments, it was still vapourware at the
time.
However, spring of 2002 I was stuck taking over rent on a house where
I had previously only rented a single room (never fun when housemates
can't bother to leave notice).
I'd saved a fair bit renting only the one room so price wasn't an
issue so when I saw that there was a steady supply ready for sale, I
jumped at it. I'd always wanted to have a way to connect my mp3
collection to my stereo, having ripped much of it for my old portable
player.

Not long after, it must have been around v3.4 of slimp3 server (mid
2002), I started playing around with the options and finding that I
wanted a few different behaviours from the skins. I had some minimal
experience with perl from university, and eventually hacked my way
into a few changes for the early skins. I then started looking over
the few plugins available at the time. Most were simple rss/html
scrapers and very localised. I started pestering the author for help
in parsing sites that provided more relevant content for me (ie
canadian).

Eventually my customisations for my own skin got so far that it ended
up as a new skin of it's own and I got an email asking if I'd mind if
it was included with the software. Next thing I knew I was writing a
feature for an alarm clock and that got requested as well. I then got
a phone call one day from Dean, telling me about a new product they
were working on and asking if I'd be interested in testing. Duh.

And now, after many thousands of hours testing, hacking,
patching....well, it's a long list of players now. The original
SliMP3 is still working just fine too.
-kdf

mrfantasy
2008-10-18, 10:43
It was the summer of 2005. I had reached a point where I was running out of room to store CDs. I had about 1000 at the time. I also realized that I could buy a 400GB hard drive and encode my entire collection to FLAC and fit it there.

I remembered vaugely the SliMP3, and Googled it and found the Squeezebox 2. It had FLAC support. I asked my wife if I could buy it, a Kuro Box HG, and a 400GB hard drive for my birthday. She obliged.

I then also had the fun of getting it all working together, which took a few weeks, then a few more months of ripping everything. Then I did it all again when I replaced my server with a mini-ITX VIA C7 mobo and mirrored 500GB hard drives (mostly after a crash of my original 400GB Kuro drive, which was luckily backed up!).

I love that my SB2 is now 3 years old and I can take advantage of all the latest features of SqueezeCenter, and its firmware has been continually improved (I started with Firmware 15 after all.)

We're going to be remodeling our kitchen and family room shortly, and I'm contemplating buying a Duet to run a dedicated kitchen system, or perhaps wire my ceiling mount speakers into my existing A/V receiver. So many choices. I'd also like a Boom for the bedroom but there's a limit to the money. I also want a flat panel TV mounted to the back of our living room fireplace, which backs up to our family room (it was built off of an old porch).

And the CDs? Well, Jazzloft sleeves relieved the storage crunch, and they still live in the family room for tactile feedback.

syburgh
2008-10-18, 14:59
Mine was a long and extravagant road. I wanted a database to track my music library, and wrote several over the years: ModPerl+MySQL (inventory only), AOLserver+Oracle (included lossy MP3 encodings for a few hundred CDs), and finally settled on a (in retrospect, strangely) flexible solution using LDAP for metadata and hacked XBoxes running a custom Linux install (tuned to a shoutcast server for synchronization, though that never really worked well). The XBoxes worked much like a VFD-less SB, cost significantly more, and produced inferior quality output.

After writing off my own development efforts, I purchased an SB2 and just used it for a few years. It was very functional for playback, which ended up outweighing the lack of good metadata. It died a slow death as the power supply misbehaved (random power loss, and later, dodgy Ethernet connectivity and a dead display). It did work well enough that I replaced it with several SB3s (all of which continue to work well). Maybe a Boom would be nice for the kitchen...

I like to keep notes on music as I acquire, enjoy, and otherwise encounter it over time. Neither SC7 not last.fm support this in a usable way. Maybe library management and flexible metadata will make it into some future SC release...

peterw
2008-10-18, 20:24
I bought my first Slim Devices product in 2004. When I was single and rented an apartment, I was pretty content with playing my CDs. When I married, suddenly the CD collection, assortment of hifi gear, and square footage doubled. Stairs separated some rooms, and, as neither my wife nor I much liked putting the CDs in those hideous nylon storage albums, the CDs ended up where there was enough room to hold them all -- one flight of stairs away from the main stereo. The original Squeezebox looked like a great solution, as I was already accustomed to leaving a computer on the broadband link 24x7. Since I had no desire to pull cat5 through the new house, the wireless version was the obvious choice. I was lucky that just as I decided to take the plunge, the Squeezebox "G" was announced. I ordered one from Slim Devices (at the time, the SD shipping labels had Sean's name printed on them).

My SB1G served me well for years, but has been replaced with a SB3. My house is pretty well covered now with gear ranging from the SB2 to the Boom -- no Transporter, though, as I don't have the hifi gear, space, or source material to really appreciate it. I am enough of an audio geek to have worn ear protection at live concerts and to have auditioned different LAME encoding options before ripping my CDs, but I'm not in the same league as those of you with SB+s, Boulder Mods, boutique cables, 24/96 recordings... :-)

The fact that virtually all the intelligence of the devices other than the Controller is in GPLed software in a pretty accessible programming language is a very big draw. It really bugs me to buy something with software that doesn't quite do what I want, and have no way to fix the problem. Thanks to Sean's vision, I can make my Squeezeboxes do what I want (I wrote VolumeLock before my SB1G even arrived, so that it would work better as a standard analog audio component), I can help others tweak their systems, and others like Greg Brown, Felix Mueller, and Michael Herger have been able to help me get more out of my Squeezebox gear. Thanks to the open design and the work of a bunch of folks inside and outside Logitech, I not only have a great way to listen to my music, but to find new music, to stay in touch with the world, and much more.

-Peter

aubuti
2008-10-19, 19:39
For me it was around August-September 2005, when we were thinking about turning our unfinished basement into a rec room. At the same time I dragged out the college-era JVC amp and ESS speakers that had been banished from the living room (too ugly for my other half) and did some minor repair work to get them back to operating condition. So now I had a second audio system, and didn't want to be shuttling CDs back-and-forth between the two.

Around the same time I saw Netgear's network music player (http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/mp101.asp) on sale for what seemed like a ridiculously low price, something under $100, maybe as low as $50. Seemed like a good solution, but after some more research I didn't like the Netgear, or the Roku (http://www.roku.com/products_soundbridge.php), or the D-Link (http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=1&pid=318), or the Linksys (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Product_C2%26cid%3D1115416830950&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper), or the other Linksys (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Product_C2%26cid%3D1115416831192&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper).

But the the SB, and especially the recently released SB3 (http://web.archive.org/web/20051101094932/http://www.slimdevices.com/) was just right. I picked up a surplus Dell desktop for $30 from my workplace, loaded Ubuntu and slimserver 6.2, and started playing with SoftSqueeze on it and our other computers. Got my first SB3 for Christmas 2005, and in Feb 2006 picked up a 2nd hand SB2 for the kitchen for a great price from a kind user on this forum. A few months after that got another SB2 off eBay for the basement. Probably the biggest mistake I made with SB was not taking advantage of the "Buy 2 SB3s and take $100 off" promotion

And SB just keeps getting better and better. New products like Duet and Boom (thank you beta programs!!) are great, but even the old products keep getting better with new versions of SC and new music service partners like Pandora and Rhapsody. Meanwhile my music listening and music buying (take note RIAA) habits have increased tremendously, and that is good.

atrocity
2008-10-20, 14:02
A couple years ago, I found out about the Roku Soundbridge and snagged one. I wasn't looking for a way to serve my own music, but for a way to listen to Internet radio through the "real" stereo without having to connect a computer. I loved it so much that I bought another one just for the bedroom.

After a while, I decided to try running its server software to play back some of my live music downloads, most of which were (and still are) FLAC. I wasn't so impressed...sound quality was OK, but the lack of true gapless playback really annoyed me. It also bothered me that the forced resampling to 48k destroyed DTS. Still, I loved the little boxes for the radio capability and still think that they're a good deal if that's your primary focus.

After a while I heard about the Squeezebox and, when a friend asked what he should get, I told him that I liked the Roku well enough, but that it looked like the Squeezebox was better. So he bought one and began raving about it, which in turn got me to give in and buy one...and then another. I gave away one of the Rokus and still use the other in another room.

The downside to the Squeezebox is that I suddenly got obsessed with getting all of my live, rare stuff (CD-DA, FLAC, SHN) onto a server. So I had to spend big bucks for a NAS and am still working on getting all the music onto it. I'm also loading up a few "normal" (i.e., official/mainstream) CDs, but my collection has got to be in the 2,500 range, so I'm definitely not making the same effort to convert everything.

I love that I can listen to downloads without all the annoyance and unpleasant additional sounds or interrutions that can happen when trying to listen through the computer. I also appreciate that SqueezeCenter runs nicely on a cheap Ubuntu box, so I can have my Windows machine do all its normal Windowsy stupidity without interrrupting the music.

erland
2008-10-20, 17:22
During 2005 I got my first iPod (iPod mini) I connected it to the music equipment in the living room and after a while I realized I missed two things:
- Remote control
- A screen that was visible a few meters away

In december 2005 I found and purchase a Squeezebox 3 and during Christmas 2005 I started to learn perl, in middle of January 2006 the first version of the TrackStat plugin was released and after that I've had a lot less spare time than before.

Unfortunately I hadn't realized what lossless format was before I got the Squeezebox, so I had already ripped all my records to MP3 for the iPod which I now had to rip again to FLAC format.

The Squeezebox is definitely the hardware equipment that has made most changes in my life during the last 10 years, it changed how I listen to music and it changed what I do with my spare time.