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ungerwu
2008-10-15, 13:49
Hey, can anybody tell me what the hole in the top of the remote is for? I tried plugging in some ear buds, but I didn't hear anything.

funkstar
2008-10-15, 13:53
You mean the Controller right?

The remote is just a remote (written with a lower case 'r').

That is a headphone socket which at the moment only plays the clicks that play out through the internal speaker.

A software upgrade that turns the Controller into a player is in the works and is being bushed out to those testing SqueezeCenter 7.3. This is a beta firmware and the audio playback is considered alpha quality right now.

See here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53808

Skunk
2008-10-15, 13:54
I have headphones plugged into mine and can hear music, but I'm using one of the latest nightly 7.3 releases.

I.e. playback through headphones is coming soon/eventually.

socistep
2008-10-15, 14:52
Will be good to be able to listen through headphones via controller rather then through hi-fi equipment.

Any feedback on the sound quality coming through the beta testing on 7.3?

Skunk
2008-10-15, 15:26
Will be good to be able to listen through headphones via controller rather then through hi-fi equipment.

Any feedback on the sound quality coming through the beta testing on 7.3?

Agreed. In fact it's the first time I've heard my FLACs on headphones.

I compared SQ to the Boom headphone/line out and they seemed very similar, but that's with cheap Denon earbuds. The Controller went a little louder than Boom, surprisingly. It's miles ahead of the output from my laptop, if that means anything.

socistep
2008-10-15, 15:37
Agreed. In fact it's the first time I've heard my FLACs on headphones.

I compared SQ to the Boom headphone/line out and they seemed very similar, but that's with cheap Denon earbuds. The Controller went a little louder than Boom, surprisingly. It's miles ahead of the output from my laptop, if that means anything.

Thanks Skunk.

I guess the barometer for me will be comparison with an iPod, any ideas on comparison ? Not sure whether this is a red herring given iPods will tend to be mp3's and we can no listen to FLAC's

Does the current Beta version give the ability to stream internet radio and other services (last.fm etc.) ?

bizdevguy
2008-10-15, 17:04
Logitech just purchased Ultimate Ears. High end ear phones that will probably do your FLAC files justice. Nice complement to have available once the remote supports music playback (or for those adventurous types who are doing it now). More info here: http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimateears/

Jonnio
2008-10-15, 17:24
Logitech just purchased Ultimate Ears. High end ear phones that will probably do your FLAC files justice. Nice complement to have available once the remote supports music playback (or for those adventurous types who are doing it now). More info here: http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimateears/

Those look interesting, I would like to compare them to my Shure E3C's and see how they do sometime.

mbw23
2008-10-16, 04:19
of course for that kind of cash, you can get the original hi-fi in-ear phones, the Etymotic ER-4 ... http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er4.aspx

Then again, the idea of multiple transducers in an earbud is intriguing!

Back on topic, thanks for asking this question, I was wondering about the hole in the top of the Remote! :) Since the battery life leaves a little something to be desired, I doubt I'd be using it to listen to my music. But it could be very handy for troubleshooting stream/audio hardware problems, etc.

socistep
2008-10-16, 04:35
of course for that kind of cash, you can get the original hi-fi in-ear phones, the Etymotic ER-4 ... http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er4.aspx

Then again, the idea of multiple transducers in an earbud is intriguing!

Back on topic, thanks for asking this question, I was wondering about the hole in the top of the Remote! :) Since the battery life leaves a little something to be desired, I doubt I'd be using it to listen to my music. But it could be very handy for troubleshooting stream/audio hardware problems, etc.

Good point, interesting to see how the Battery life stacks up, I could always just have the controller in the cradle from time to time as its next to my sofa.. :-)

tamanaco
2008-10-16, 06:23
Just a thought... now that the headphone jack is activated... I think the Controller will work both in sync mode with other player(s) and as independent player. If it works as an independent player, I'd like to cue the next track to be played in the SB3 connected to my home stereo system via the Controller. In other words, using the Controller as an independent player, I'd listen to other tracks in my library while the SB3 is playing a different track via the stereo system. Then I'd sync to the SB3 and add the previewed track(s) to the currently playing playlist in the SB3 using the Controller?. Did I make sense? I'm afraid that when I sync the Controller to the SB3... the sync process will stop the currently playing track.... right? I guess what I'm looking for is the ability to sync the Controller and the SB3 on the flight without stopping the currently playing track in the SB3. I don't have a Controller, but I have been contemplating getting one as soon as my ever decreasing purchasing power can accommodate it. Having this ability either via the Controller firmware or via a "Controller DJ Emulator" plugin could be interesting.

HydeTheDarkerSide
2008-10-16, 06:35
Looking forward to having a working headphone socket. Whilst we listen to a good deal more music now that we have SB Classics around the house and a Duet Controller next to my seat in the lounge, I still have to give way to the girls wanting to watch ruddy Strictly, X-Factor etal :-(

I see that the controller supports SD cards. Does anyone know what the intended use for this is?

slimpy
2008-10-16, 06:43
After just reading the thread title
my first thought was "Call support"
and my second thought: "Shouldn't this go in the DIY forum?"

:-)

-s.

peter
2008-10-16, 11:16
tamanaco wrote:
> Just a thought... now that the headphone jack is activated... I think
> the Controller will work both in sync mode with other player(s) and as
> independent player. If it works as an independent player, I'd like to
> cue the next track to be played in the SB3 connected to my home stereo
> system via the Controller. In other words, using the Controller as an
> independent player, I'd listen to other tracks in my library while the
> SB3 is playing a different track via the stereo system. Then I'd sync
> to the SB3 and add the previewed track(s) to the currently playing
> playlist in the SB3 using the Controller?. Did I make sense? I'm afraid
> that when I sync the Controller to the SB3... the sync process will
> stop the currently playing track.... right? I guess what I'm looking
> for is the ability to sync the Controller and the SB3 on the flight
> without stopping the currently playing track in the SB3. I don't have a
> Controller, but I have been contemplating getting one as soon as my ever
> decreasing purchasing power can accommodate it. Having this ability
> either via the Controller firmware or via a "Controller DJ Emulator"
> plugin could be interesting.
>

Yeah, let's make it as complicated as we can and then complain when bugs
show up. No problems with a plugin that does this, but let's try and
keep the main code as simple as possible...

Regards,
Peter

tamanaco
2008-10-16, 11:44
Yeah, let's make it as complicated as we can and then complain when bugs
show up. No problems with a plugin that does this, but let's try and
keep the main code as simple as possible...
Regards,
Peter

Can't blame me for wanting to raise the bar. I wonder what you would have said about this post a couple year back - my post here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=145212&postcount=15 (Look at the date... Logitech was not even in the picture then)

I think the Controller is a result of trying to make it more complicated.

simonjedrake
2008-10-16, 12:56
Can't blame me for wanting to raise the bar. I wonder what you would have said about this post a couple year back - my post here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=145212&postcount=15 (Look at the date... Logitech was not even in the picture then)


I remember reading your dream all those years ago............and nows it about to become reality when SC 7.3 is released from it's current beta.
What is your next dream - patent it 1st then tell us.....!!
Simon

peter
2009-01-18, 09:12
tamanaco wrote:
> peter;350356 Wrote:
>
>> Yeah, let's make it as complicated as we can and then complain when
>> bugs
>> show up. No problems with a plugin that does this, but let's try and
>> keep the main code as simple as possible...
>> Regards,
>> Peter
>>
>
> Can't blame me for wanting to move the raise the bar. I wonder what you
> would have said about this post a couple year back about my post here:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=145212&postcount=15
>

I'd say. Good, you just described the Sonos remote! Obviously anyone
who'd ever held one knew SD had to develop something similar.

> I think the Controller is a result of trying to make it more
> complicated.

This, OTOH, was posted by me, long before the SliMP3 came on the market,
when there was no device like it:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.home.automation/msg/b99c1b2d71ec5f27?hl=en&pli=1

Regards,
Peter

Mick Seymour
2009-01-18, 11:04
I was talking to SWMBO yesterday about how I'd love to see Squeezebox Headphone, a headset with the same superb build quality of the SB3 & Boom that we already own but with walkabout WiFi capability. Sure, I could get a Controller and a pair of headphones to plug into them but it would be soooo cool to have a purpose built rig I could hang by the back door, synced up to whichever device is playing indoors so that when I go outside I could just pop them on and carry on listening to the music.

What do you say Logitech guys 'n gals?

Dogberry2
2009-01-19, 08:20
I was talking to SWMBO yesterday about how I'd love to see Squeezebox Headphone, a headset with the same superb build quality of the SB3 & Boom that we already own but with walkabout WiFi capability. Sure, I could get a Controller and a pair of headphones to plug into them but it would be soooo cool to have a purpose built rig I could hang by the back door, synced up to whichever device is playing indoors so that when I go outside I could just pop them on and carry on listening to the music.

What do you say Logitech guys 'n gals?Already been requested. (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=373516&postcount=5)

Mick Seymour
2009-01-19, 08:27
Already been requested.

I'm happy to continue the rumour :-)

pichonCalavera
2009-01-22, 15:12
Well I actually would like a Squeezebox Portable:

Take the controller as a basis, make it smaller, put some buttons on the side to save space, keep the same UI, keep the memory card so the capacity can be upgradable, make it a top notch SQ headphone out, same audio codec support as the other Squeezeboxes, keep the streaming playback, install Squeezecenter inside the Portable, ability to sync with other Squeezecenter instances over Wifi so I can choose and copy my music easily to my Portable, and use the transcoding abilities of Squeezecenter so that I could have a choice of transcoding my FLAC music library in my main server to MP3 or OGG on my Portable (and this way I eliminate the need to have duplicates of the music I want in my portable).