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Jonnio
2008-10-03, 14:09
I am curious how expandable my current system is (I am at 2 SB receivers, and SBC, and a Boom with more in the near future)

I am curious how many receivers people have run before they started running into sync or bandwidth issues.

Kuben72
2008-10-03, 14:19
Well right now I have 4 as you can se from my signature. Just for fun I have tried to have all 4 play different music and then added 4 softsqueezes installed on laptops also playing different music. All 8 players was using the wireless network in the house.
All my music is in flac.
From the logs from the server the bandwith load was between 15-20 MBit. I took a look on the logs from the AP and they showed the same.

My AP is 54 MBit DLINK DWL3200.
So as far as I could tell the my limit is very high. It would be very rare to have 8 players on at one time.

Mnyb
2008-10-03, 14:27
I am curious how expandable my current system is (I am at 2 SB receivers, and SBC, and a Boom with more in the near future)

I am curious how many receivers people have run before they started running into sync or bandwidth issues.

Well thats entirely up to your network architecture and server, I would not expect 10 boxes to play flac from the same wireless AP.
But with the rigth routers and multiple AP's and many wired boxes, i think you can have a lot Squeezeboxes, someone on this forum has 14 of them.
With the right kind of server your not even limited to one ethernet port if 1 gbit or 100 mb is not enough for you.

I have 2 but they are working just fine with wireless (the server is wired to the router) no sync problems with that.

Nice poll this is going to get interesting to see the average :-)

CatBus
2008-10-03, 14:39
I am curious how many receivers people have run before they started running into sync or bandwidth issues.

I imagine everyone would run out of useful places to put the boxes long before they started running into bandwidth issues. I have 3 and honestly can't imagine where I'd even put more than 5.

iPhone
2008-10-03, 14:49
I am curious how expandable my current system is (I am at 2 SB receivers, and SBC, and a Boom with more in the near future)

I am curious how many receivers people have run before they started running into sync or bandwidth issues.

I am at 9 units. All without issue, running SqueezeCenter 7.2 on a Linux NAS. Even using the least efficient method of streaming FLAC, I believe the system has been tested to stream to at least 16 devices without any issues. Using MP3 it is probably even higher, the thing to remember is that there is a buffer and that it is not a constant full rate data stream.

Is there a point when one will run out of bandwidth or have too many Slim Devices (basically the same thing)? There is, if I understand what is at issue. It is where the music is transcoded and what format it is in that will determine the network bandwidth used multiplied by the number of devices needing data determines overall network bandwidth needed.

Jonnio
2008-10-03, 14:53
Sounds like I have lots of room to grow!

I was kind of thinking if there was a near term break point that people have found in which network bandwidth, server horsepower (on a typical older used pc), or the ability for players to sync up started to suffer.

The other, bigger part, was just curiosity on how many people are going hog wild in their house.

bonze
2008-10-03, 15:04
I feel sorry for those with 5 boxen - they'll never be able to vote ;)

Jonnio
2008-10-03, 15:05
I feel sorry for those with 5 boxen - they'll never be able to vote ;)

ah poo sorry

MuckleEck
2008-10-03, 15:42
ah poo sorry

I currently have 5 (if you count a chumby) but will soon buy another receiver (for the conservatory) and a boom for the bedroom.

Most of mine are wired so bandwidth won't be an issue....

MrC
2008-10-03, 17:09
1- Acme Boom
2- Acme SB3's
1- Acme Duet

(too many Warner Brother cartoons as a kid)

Jason
2008-10-03, 21:09
A SB3 and a Boom for me.

scalesr1
2008-10-03, 22:05
1 x SB3
2 x SB2
1 x SB1G
2 x Slimp3
4 x Softsqueeze users
1 x boom on my wish list

All but SB3 wired to a Win2K30-SBS, SB3 Wireless (and most used device) -
mostly MP3 though moving to FLAC as time permits- no issues since installing
the first Slimp3 though rarely more than 4 devices running at one time.

Richard


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I am curious how expandable my current system is (I am at 2 SB
receivers, and SBC, and a Boom with more in the near future)

I am curious how many receivers people have run before they started
running into sync or bandwidth issues.


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DigitalMitch
2008-10-04, 02:22
2 * SB3
2 * SBR
1 * Boom
1 * SBC
6 in Total

All wireless from a HP Mediasmart Server, streaming FLAC.

Moved to HP (from QNAP TS101) to have easier ability to upgrade SqeezeCenter myself)had moved from pc (HP pavilion Pentium 4 3GHz 512M Ram) because it had run out of hard drive and was struggling to run SlimServer + TVersity (video streamer) and other apps simultaneously. The HP server seems to give faster scans (doesn't need to use LAN to access files) and means I have music to listen to when pc crashes.
Have installed MusicIP onto MediaSmart as well - no issues.

Generally all sync'd together so there is no disruption in music as I move round the house.

Gave up on SoftSqueeze, as it doesn't sync, and contirbuted to poor pc performance.

Have since upgraded RAM in pc and seen improved performance (mainly on Mp3Tag with large library open).

aubuti
2008-10-04, 12:27
6 boxes, details in my sig. Only two are wireless, the SB3 in the living room (my first SB) and the Duet in the study (a beta SBR with a defective ethernet jack). I haven't tried to stream all 6 at once yet, but I have sometimes had problems with sync'ing FLAC on 3-4 boxes with Dynamic Playlists, but I strongly suspect the problem there is the anemic NAS hardware and not bandwidth.

pablolie
2008-10-04, 13:30
I have 6 hardware boxes:

3 SB3
2 Sboom
1 Duet

I can run them all synched without a problem. They are all wireless. The server is connected to the router-wap via 100Mbit/s Ethernet.

I also run Softsqueeze on the desktop in my study, but never try to synch to the hardware boxes, because of bad experiences when trying to do so.

I have thought about getting a Transporter as part of a major change in my main audiophile setup, but need to figure some other aspects out. It's 2 months out.

pufnstuf
2008-10-04, 14:20
I have the following boxen:

1x Transporter (My favourite!)
1x SB3
2x SBR
1x Boom (mine will arrive on 7 Oct)

Plus I have 2x SBC and PCs and Macs with copies of SoftSqueeze loaded. Looking forward to SC7.3 and SqueezePlay!

...and now back to the music.

gary
2008-10-04, 14:30
I have
1 squeezebox version 1
3 squeezebox version 2
4 squeezebox version 3

and trying to think of a good reason to buy a boom!

Gary

ModelCitizen
2008-10-04, 16:07
There's no option for 5.
:-(

MC

pablolie
2008-10-04, 16:10
There's no option for 5.
:-(

MC

There is: Buy another one, quick. :-)

Jonnio
2008-10-04, 16:54
There is: Buy another one, quick. :-)

I can't edit the post, so I will assume anyone with 5 will likely end up with six, so in the meantime you can round up :)

Nonreality
2008-10-04, 21:26
I am at 9 units.
This explains a lot about you my friend. :)
I'm a poor soul with only one SB3 but I'd like a Boom in the future, so maybe that counts. A transporter would be very cool too as well as a holodeck. :)

MikeekiM
2008-10-04, 23:32
1 x Duet
3 x Boom
1 x SoftSqueeze Client User

1 more Boom on my wishlist... :)

upstatemike
2008-10-05, 09:07
6 x SliMP3 - 2 still in regular use. I should replace them for the bigger buffer and better graphics of SB3s but I really like the "under counter" mounting brackets. I will probably keep them all and use them to display messages.

1 x SB1
2 x SB2
10 x SB3
1 x Boom - Currently put away in a closet until the UI is improved
1 x Duet - Love the controller, hate the receiver.

iPhone
2008-10-05, 09:40
This explains a lot about you my friend. :)
I'm a poor soul with only one SB3 but I'd like a Boom in the future, so maybe that counts. A transporter would be very cool too as well as a holodeck. :)

Hey NonReality, I really like music. I listen to it all day, so I HAVE to have players in any room that I might be spending time in. The Transporter is pretty cool if one has a fair or above main system. After the market closes (Mon-Fri), I go into the Media Room and listen to tunes on my main system for a couple of hours. We have dinner, then either watch a DVD or listen to more music. While making dinner, we listen to the Boom in the kitchen.

I made a mobile setup that I used to more around with me all the time (pre-Boom era). It showed me how often and how much I would listen to music in a specific place if I would take the trouble to move and plug up the SB3 and A5s. Over time, those locations got there own setups. I also have a bad habit of not selling my used gear (can't part with it emotionally), so I had equipment to use for those locations and only needed to by a Slim Device.

Of course after listening to the SB3 on my main system, I had to get a Transporter so that SB3 had to go some place. Had to have a Duet, so the SB3 moved again. And so on..........

The dining room, one quest room, and all bathrooms except the master are the only rooms without a unit. I am also not counting the Duet in my son's room as it belongs to him (he comes and goes depending on the girl of the month).

kolding
2008-10-05, 11:39
4 active:
1 SB2
1 SB3
2 Boom
And a controller.

I have two retired, a SliMP3 and an SB1, although I may bring the SB1 out of retirement and attach it wired.

Just out of curiosity, how many can people play synced? I was trying to use 4 players synced the other day, and it would often rebuffer. 3 worked fine, 4, not so much. Not sure if it has anything to do with the one where the wireless doesn't reach so well. All playing MP3's, so bandwidth shouldn't be a huge problem.

Eric

iPhone
2008-10-05, 13:55
4 active:
1 SB2
1 SB3
2 Boom
And a controller.

I have two retired, a SliMP3 and an SB1, although I may bring the SB1 out of retirement and attach it wired.

Just out of curiosity, how many can people play synced? I was trying to use 4 players synced the other day, and it would often rebuffer. 3 worked fine, 4, not so much. Not sure if it has anything to do with the one where the wireless doesn't reach so well. All playing MP3's, so bandwidth shouldn't be a huge problem.

Eric

I have all of mine synced up at one time without issue since SC 7.1. It get the personal feeling that before bandwidth becomes a problem, the server horsepower becomes a problem. Is it an older PC running SC with a bunch of other things going on? Is it a lower end under powered NAS trying to do the job? Or is it a newer dedicated Server or PC running SC alone? I feel all of this matters. And how good is your wireless network and the signal at each location. In my opinion, all of these things matter and play a large part. Each issue has to be resolved before a large synced system works well. Some folks will only need to find one problem, others will have multiple problems, and still other will have no issues at all. Each home and installation is different. That is why there really is no reason for Logitech to make this Plug'N'Play in my opinion.

radish
2008-10-05, 14:00
Guess I'll add my list to the pile...

1x Transporter
1x SB1G
1x SB2
3x SB3
2x SBR
2x Boom
3x SBC

All running from a $300 1.5TB server I built a few months ago. The only wired device is one of the SB3's - everything else is wireless.

Nonreality
2008-10-05, 15:15
Guess I'll add my list to the pile...

1x Transporter
1x SB1G
1x SB2
3x SB3
2x SBR
2x Boom
3x SBC

All running from a $300 1.5TB server I built a few months ago. The only wired device is one of the SB3's - everything else is wireless.
You too radish. No wonder you and iphone know so much about everything squeeze. My wife thought more than 2 was a crazy idea. I feel so neglected now only having 1 SB3. Oh well. ":(

funkstar
2008-10-06, 01:55
I have a Boom in the livingroom along with a Controller and an SB3 in the bedroom.

A SB3 is also now at my parents and in a box in a cupboard I have a Reciever, a second controler (minus cradle) an SB2 and a SliMP3.

Would like to get a hold of a SB1 and SB1G :)