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ralphpnj
2008-09-01, 07:30
I noticed that the new SqueezeBox Boom now has it's very own Slim Devices forum section and I was wondering why none of the other devices, like the SqueezeBox Classic, The Duet or the Transporter, have their forum sections. I think this would be very useful, especially for the Transporter since the Transporter, like the SqueezeBox Boom, has many more features and functionality than the SqueezeBox Classic.

Transporter owners unite!!!

ModelCitizen
2008-09-01, 10:22
Transporter owners unite!!!

Try the audiofool forum... but it's more like "Transporter owners fight"... I'm afraid.

MC

pfarrell
2008-09-01, 10:32
ralphpnj wrote:
> I noticed that the new SqueezeBox Boom now has it's very own Slim
> Devices forum section and I was wondering why none of the other
> devices, like the SqueezeBox Classic, The Duet or the Transporter, have
> their forum sections.

Back when the Transporter was released, electrons were too valuable to
waste a whole forum for the needs of the 42 owners of Transporters.

Plus, we are so superior, that we don't need any help.

I think the Boom subsection was mostly because folks have been asking
for a boombox for ages, so they can go talk about it without bother us.

You can check it out and see if you are amazed by the level of
exchanging happening there. To me, its mostly whining that there is no
car battery and little red wagon to make the Boom be portable, or
complaints that no units have been delivered yet to the dark side of the
moon.

Plus Transporter folks just listen to music.

--
Pat Farrell
http://www.pfarrell.com/

ModelCitizen
2008-09-01, 10:44
Plus Transporter folks just listen to music.

and play with their knobs.

MC

dean
2008-09-01, 18:51
Yeah, we created a Boom forum to give folks a focused place to talk about the new product. I think it's worked out well and should add some more. I propose:

Transporter
Squeezebox Duet (Controller & Receiver)
Squeezebox Classic (Squeezebox v2 & v3)
SqueezeCenter

Reactions?

pfarrell
2008-09-01, 19:30
> Transporter
> Squeezebox Duet (Controller & Receiver)
> Squeezebox Classic (Squeezebox v2 & v3)
> SqueezeCenter
>
> Reactions?

I really don't like segregation.

If I was going to do a lot of arbitrary splits, I would separate out
Receiver from Controller, because ignoring the marketing spin, they are
separate and often users have problems with one or the other.

But I don't like the idea of the splits.

More so, if I was going to make a useful split, I'd put a separate
section for networking. A huge percentage of problems that users have
with Controllers and Receivers are due to WiFi and firewall issues, in
most cases the SD/Logi parts work fine.

If we had a Networking Problems forum, we could have some stickies and
point folks with networking issues to go there.

The fact that the Wiki has all the information is mostly irrelevant,
seems folks come to the forum and expect answers in the forum.


--
Pat Farrell
http://www.pfarrell.com/

ratso
2008-09-01, 19:38
Try the audiofool forum... but it's more like "Transporter owners fight"... I'm afraid.

MC

link please?

ModelCitizen
2008-09-01, 23:57
link please?
Have you not used forums before then? Well, into the lions den with you....

http://forums.slimdevices.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7

As for splitting the forums. The Boom forum is working well and the main forum is becoming a bit swamped. I don't like splitting forums too much though and think that things can easily become confused, with the demarcation failing and ending up with threads having to be moved from one forum to another far too often. However, if they were to be split Deans split by product is the correct thing to do. Giving Transporter users and Audiophiles seperate forums would enable sensible Transporter owners to stay sane. Individual Duet and SlimCenter forums would be useful too. Creating one called networking would not work as virtually all the people who write in with networking problems don't realise they have networking problems.

It's a bit of a shame more people don't write into the beginners forums instead of diving straight into the main forum.

MC

simbo
2008-09-02, 01:24
If the moderators are happy to spend all their time moving incorrectly-assigned posts, then fine! :-)

Actually I can see some benefit in the split. I agree that the General board is getting too bloated, to a point when people are having their posts pushed off the first page without any response.

If it's decided to have product-based boards, I would still like to see General, Beginners (like a pre-sales board) and all the supplimentary boards too (Music, Photos, etc).

Nonreality
2008-09-02, 02:59
Yeah, we created a Boom forum to give folks a focused place to talk about the new product. I think it's worked out well and should add some more. I propose:

Transporter
Squeezebox Duet (Controller & Receiver)
Squeezebox Classic (Squeezebox v2 & v3)
SqueezeCenter

Reactions?

Naw, then no one will talk to each other. It's fine the way it is. Plus how are you going to split the audiophools from the audiophiles? yes there is a difference. :)

ralphpnj
2008-09-02, 08:26
Naw, then no one will talk to each other. It's fine the way it is. Plus how are you going to split the audiophools from the audiophiles? yes there is a difference. :)

I only "suggested" a separate Transporter forum in response to the separate Squeezebox Boom forum. I agree with Pat Farrell that a Networking Problems or Network Troubleshooting forum might be useful.

As far as the differences between audiophools and audiophiles are concerned these differences can be easily determined by a simple ABX test.

funkstar
2008-09-02, 12:20
Yeah, we created a Boom forum to give folks a focused place to talk about the new product. I think it's worked out well and should add some more. I propose:

Transporter
Squeezebox Duet (Controller & Receiver)
Squeezebox Classic (Squeezebox v2 & v3)
SqueezeCenter

Reactions?
Don't mind, I use "New Posts" pretty much exclusively so it doesn't bother me where you put threads :)

Khuli
2008-09-03, 01:52
I propose:

Transporter
Squeezebox Duet (Controller & Receiver)
Squeezebox Classic (Squeezebox v2 & v3)
SqueezeCenter

Reactions?

I think that's great if people want to talk quite specifically about that product. However, it does run the risk of questions/ideas about code/plugins being posted in one forum when it would be applicable to all products - which would mean that either useful answers are missed, or people might be tempted to cross-post so they would be more certain of a reply.

autopilot
2008-09-03, 10:19
I suggested a change to the forum layout a while back and the thread got completely ignored. But hey ho, i will have a go again...

I think a change is needed but splitting by product will just get confusing. Most users wont have a clue if the issuse they are experiencing is with the controller, squeezebox, squeezecenter or network etc. What i propose is simply add a 'troubleshooting' forum and that would take about 50% of the general discussion forum threads. Could help sales too as pre-purchace customers will often pop into the forums and the general discussion forum is often the first port of call. It can be off putting and give the wrong impression that the product is more problematic than it really is. I realise the beginers forum is there but its obviously not being used correctly and a lot of people with problems are not new users.

pfarrell
2008-09-03, 10:30
autopilot wrote:
> I think a change is needed but splitting by product will just get
> confusing. Most users wont have a clue if the issuse they are
> experiencing is with the controller, squeezebox, squeezecenter or
> network etc.

You see this all the time. They bought a Duet, so they have no idea if
the problem is in the Controller or the Receiver. And it makes a big
difference.


> What i propose is simply add a 'troubleshooting' forum and
> that would take about 50% of the general discussion forum threads.

I like this. Of course, most troubleshooting is network troubleshooting,
but you could do sub splits later on depending on volume.




--
Pat Farrell
http://www.pfarrell.com/

Philip Meyer
2008-09-03, 11:35
>Transporter
>Squeezebox Duet (Controller & Receiver)
>Squeezebox Classic (Squeezebox v2 & v3)
>SqueezeCenter
>
Too many forums already. There will be Boom posts in Discuss, there are Transporter posts in Audiophile. Discussions about 7.2 are in Discuss, Beta, Boom...

I think there would be merit in a SqueezeBox Receiver forum (or is this mainly covered by SqueezeOS), because I haven't got one and I could then easily ignore all such traffic ;-)

It would be better to categorise the current folders into smaller sets though:

General/
Beginners
Discuss

Hardware/
Boom
3rd Party Hardware
DIY (redundant - merge with 3rd Party Hardware?)
System Photos

Software/
3rd Party Plugins
Beta
Squeeze OS
Developers

Music/
Audiophiles
Music
Ripping / Encoding / Transcoding / Tagging
SqueezeNetwork

Languages/

dennis55
2008-09-04, 08:03
another vote for segregation here,with all the new products i believe they deserve their own place in the sun.
Networking would justify it's own forum!,i wonder how many Transporter owner's there are?.
in my own corner i use the Duet controller with my Transporter as it's simply a better user experience (damn the cost!).

dennis

p.s. anybody looking for a receiver? mine is still in it's wrapping as it been unused and lying somewhere upstairs since new.

JJZolx
2008-09-20, 16:08
Yeah, we created a Boom forum to give folks a focused place to talk about the new product. I think it's worked out well and should add some more. I propose:

Transporter
Squeezebox Duet (Controller & Receiver)
Squeezebox Classic (Squeezebox v2 & v3)
SqueezeCenter

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To start, I'd like to see a separate Duet/Controller/Receiver forum. This platform is different enough from the others - the hardware, the controller software, and the setup, that there's not a lot to be learned by anyone who owns only another and those same folks have little to contribute in helping out. Right now they have to wade through a _lot_ of Duet posts in General.

The other forums probably also have their place.

autopilot
2008-09-22, 04:14
To start, I'd like to see a separate Duet/Controller/Receiver forum. This platform is different enough from the others - the hardware, the controller software, and the setup

Except for Squeezecenter. I hear you, but Squeezecenter is the beating heart for the Squeezebox family and issues will usually effect all products - and thats when multiple product forums will start to get inefficient.

I still think they should just split General Discussion into 2 subforums - General Discussion and Troubleshooting (or Support, or Problems). See how that goes and take it from there. Can always be split further if required.

JJZolx
2008-09-22, 09:11
Except for Squeezecenter. I hear you, but Squeezecenter is the beating heart for the Squeezebox family and issues will usually effect all products - and thats when multiple product forums will start to get inefficient.

Most of it runs on SqueezeCenter, but even here it's much less true than all other products because of the software running on the Controller itself. The only thing SqueezeCenter has in common when using this product is scanning and the web ui.

autopilot
2008-09-22, 10:39
Most of it runs on SqueezeCenter, but even here it's much less true than all other products because of the software running on the Controller itself. The only thing SqueezeCenter has in common when using this product is scanning and the web ui.

But we already have a SqueezeOS forum.

JJZolx
2008-09-22, 11:11
But we already have a SqueezeOS forum.

It's filed under beta forums, and I'm sure 99% of Duet users don't know what SqueezeOS is. We certainly don't see many of the dozens of daily Duet & Controller questions being posted there.

autopilot
2008-09-22, 11:14
True. But i still think it will get foggy; How will users know if the problem is related to the Controller only, or SC or SN, or Wifi... etc etc... the admin/mods will be moving posts all day long. im still for a split GD/Troubshooting first then split further like you suggest if required.