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GlenL
2008-08-02, 14:56
Just been on another forum (not Sonos) and a claim was made that Squeezebox owners/supporters are reluctant/dismissive of potential buyers trying both Sonos and Squeezebox systems before deciding on which one to purchase.

When questioned on this, it came to pass that nobody had ever seen a post where a Squeezebox owner/supporter had actually stated there was no reason to try both systems.
However it was stated that when a Sonos owner/supporter suggests people try both systems, Squeezebox owners/supporters don't actually fall over themselves replying to the post in agreement.

As a result, can I ask the following questions ?

Q: As a Squeezebox owner/supporter do you support the idea of potential buyers trying both Sonos and Squeezebox systems before deciding on which one suits their needs best ?

If you are against such a suggestion, could you state your reasons why ?

Thanks

autopilot
2008-08-02, 15:16
Just been on another forum (not Sonos) and a claim was made that Squeezebox owners/supporters are reluctant/dismissive of potential buyers trying both Sonos and Squeezebox systems before deciding on which one to purchase.

When questioned on this, it came to pass that nobody had ever seen a post where a Squeezebox owner/supporter had actually stated there was no reason to try both systems.
However it was stated that when a Sonos owner/supporter suggests people try both systems, Squeezebox owners/supporters don't actually fall over themselves replying to the post in agreement.

As a result, can I ask the following questions ?

Q: As a Squeezebox owner/supporter do you support the idea of potential buyers trying both Sonos and Squeezebox systems before deciding on which one suits their needs best ?

If you are against such a suggestion, could you state your reasons why ?

Thanks

What forum is this then? I dont think you would find any around here that would be against you trying both, it's a good idea to try anything if you can first. Trying both Sono's as well a an SB product would be very sensible.

The Squeezebox is a better all around product, that does more yet costs less, It's a no-brainer for most people. That said, there are people i know who i would recommended the Sono's too over the Squeezebox. Try both if you can.

GlenL
2008-08-02, 15:40
What forum is this then?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1006811&page=17

Specifically post 492

kdf
2008-08-02, 16:10
A classic false claim. The comparisons come up often even on these
forums, and I've never noticed any shyness to suggest an open comparison
by trying both. In the specific case you point out, the claim is made
that owners/staff/developers...

well, staff make it perfectly clear that support IS there to try it out
for your self just by having the 30-day policy at all.

owners, well, I've never seen anyone come out AGAINST it, but to somehow
suggest that by not jumping in and wildly supporting the act of
comparing is somehow tantamount to not supporting the idea is ludicrous.

developers, are pretty much too busy working and testing to be spending
time on these forums, let alone other ones. They are more active in
forum land than I've seen for most cases, but it is much the same lame
thing to make a claim based on a lack of action. Speaking for myself,
if something is obvious, I feel no need to jump in and say "yes, do
that" just to make sure no one can claim I'm against it.

Basically, take any claim on a forum with a grain of salt and always
consider the source.

Both products have different features and suit different needs in
different ways. If you are able, try them both out and see which fits
you the best. In fact, given that you HAVE that option, looking for
advice from others is far less useful

-kdf

GlenL wrote:
> autopilot;325368 Wrote:
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>> What forum is this then?
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> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1006811&page=17
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> Specifically post 492
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bhaagensen
2008-08-02, 16:59
Q: As a Squeezebox owner/supporter do you support the idea of potential buyers trying both Sonos and Squeezebox systems before deciding on which one suits their needs best ?


Of course, yes. Anything else doesn't make sense to me, but I'm sure its possible, for any product like this, to dig up some reference to someone whose opinion is a little bit more biased than facts can support. But a hard fact is that Slimdevices offer a 30 day money back guarantee. AFAIK this is in the US, I'm not sure how it works internationally. How easy it is to get a loaner might vary. When I bought my TP (in Denmark) I made a phone-call to a dealer I found on Google. He immediately offered to send me a TP on loan and the only expense I had was to pay for return postage. Btw its his policy so he'd done it with an SB3 or Duet also.



Basically, take any claim on a forum with a grain of salt and always
consider the source.


Indeed, and this also holds in the real world. It seems that many who has hands on experience of one product and only superficial knowledge of the other falls into the trap of promoting the former by discussing the weaknesses of the latter. I've experience this from a local Sonos dealer (their way of promoting is not exclusive for Sonos, they have a lots of other products. The dealer is very popular but I never liked them, still once or twice a year I pop by to see if there has been any improvement)

Nonreality
2008-08-02, 21:40
Don't worry about what forums say about comparing and just do it if you feel the need. Logitech is very cool about comparing and it will just cost you freight. I don't know the Sonos but it was out of my league price wise at the time so after reading a lot about the SB I just dove in. I now think the sonos is probably very good for people that want the simplest way to do this without worries about sound and expansion. Kind of like Itunes and the ilk. Keep it simple and not a worry about customizing and adding cool features. I like the open source not because I can add to the talent but I can use the cool addons that talented people create. It's all in what you really want to have I believe.

Goodsounds
2008-08-02, 22:27
I'm not sure I understand the question, but I wonder why it would or should matter to me. As between these two competing product families, I made one choice, and others are welcome to make whatever choice they wish to.

Am I missing something?

Nonreality
2008-08-02, 23:03
I'm not sure I understand the question, but I wonder why it would or should matter to me. As between these two competing product families, I made one choice, and others are welcome to make whatever choice they wish to.

Am I missing something?
You do. It doesn't. Yes you did. Yes they are.

autopilot
2008-08-03, 02:48
If you are able, try them both out and see which fits
you the best. In fact, given that you HAVE that option, looking for
advice from others is far less useful


Especially from that thread, which is bursting full of trolls and idiots and is very misleading about both products. That guy who goes by the name of Jaffacake is best avoided too, he seems to have a personal vendetta against this company and its products - bit of a wierdo and has been proven a liar.

If i was starting out again trying to decide, that thread would not be of any use too me as it stopped being objective after about page 1 and clearly its just a cat fight (sorry, cage fight *cough*), although it is pretty entertaining at times. There are plenty of decent comparisons over the net that do actually provide objective details of the differences in the systems. I have my opinion (especially about the costing), but it makes no difference to me what system you by. Its ultimately the about music and your enjoyment of that which matters. These systems of both very good, but they are are means to an end, not the end itself.

Nonreality
2008-08-03, 03:25
Especially from that thread, which is bursting full of trolls and idiots and is very misleading about both products. That guy who goes by the name of Jaffacake is best avoided too, he seems to have a personal vendetta against this company and its products - bit of a wierdo and has been proven a liar.

If i was starting out again trying to decide, that thread would not be of any use too me as it stopped being objective after about page 1 and clearly its just a cat fight (sorry, cage fight *cough*), although it is pretty entertaining at times. There are plenty of decent comparisons over the net that do actually provide objective details of the differences in the systems. I have my opinion (especially about the costing), but it makes no difference to me what system you by. Its ultimately the about music and your enjoyment of that which matters. These systems of both very good, but they are are means to an end, not the end itself.Yes Jaffacake is not to be trusted and I basically got into trouble here for saying that early on. I caught him in every forum there was putting down the SB and putting out lies about it. For some reason I got reprimanded for saying as much here. I do tend to call it as I see it and too bad if the powers don't see it that way.

jaffacake
2008-08-03, 10:08
Yes Jaffacake is not to be trusted and I basically got into trouble here for saying that early on. I caught him in every forum there was putting down the SB and putting out lies about it. For some reason I got reprimanded for saying as much here. I do tend to call it as I see it and too bad if the powers don't see it that way.

You got into trouble for making up false information about me and accusing me of stuff that simply wasn't true.

Likewise, this thread appears to be going the same way.

I've reported the 2 previous posts accordingly. I am not a liar and have never been proved to be so.

Please, let's keep this civil and stick to the facts - there is no need for a personal attack on an individual who highlights weaknesses in a product.