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ralphpnj
2008-07-20, 10:18
I've been using the built-in Last.fm scrobbling to automatically submit my Transporter/Squeezebox playing history to my profile on Last.fm and it works great. However, being a jazz fan and an avid jazz listener I've noticed that my last.fm profile tends not to accurately portray my real listening habits.

You're probably wondering what the heck I'm talking about since what's shown on last.fm profile page is an accurate history of all the songs that I've played. So what I'm talking about is the fact that most jazz tunes (and also classical compositions) tend to be quite a bit longer than most rock or pop music tunes and so while I might listen to one rock CD for every two or three jazz CDs, the number of tracks played shown on my Last.fm profile page is weighted in favor of the rock tracks. I.e. shorter track lengths means more tracks "scrobbled" in a given time period but not necessarily more time spent listening to the shorter tracks.

Okay, I feel better now that I've got that off my chest.

andyg
2008-07-20, 11:26
The track length is reported along with the rest of the track info, so I would assume they'd take that into account?

iPhone
2008-07-20, 11:26
I've been using the built-in Last.fm scrobbling to automatically submit my Transporter/Squeezebox playing history to my profile on Last.fm and it works great. However, being a jazz fan and an avid jazz listener I've noticed that my last.fm profile tends not to accurately portray my real listening habits.

You're probably wondering what the heck I'm talking about since what's shown on last.fm profile page is an accurate history of all the songs that I've played. So what I'm talking about is the fact that most jazz tunes (and also classical compositions) tend to be quite a bit longer than most rock or pop music tunes and so while I might listen to one rock CD for every two or three jazz CDs, the number of tracks played shown on my Last.fm profile page is weighted in favor of the rock tracks. I.e. shorter track lengths means more tracks "scrobbled" in a given time period but not necessarily more time spent listening to the shorter tracks.

Okay, I feel better now that I've got that off my chest.

What we need is a "slash". Last.FM should list Total Tracks and Total Time. Have you looked for a Total Time Listened Plugin for Last.FM? I am going to have a look tonight. There are all those guys that build the badges, some clever person must have a way to do the same with time as is done with tracks.

And of course you are totally correct that Last.FM is biased toward todays Pop, Rock, and Rap music. So Jazz and Classical listeners are going to have much loder track counts but could have equal listening times.

ralphpnj
2008-07-20, 12:00
The track length is reported along with the rest of the track info, so I would assume they'd take that into account?

Yes it is but only after one click's on the track itself, track time is not shown on one's main profile page. Looking at profile page one might think that
I listen to as much, if not more, rock music than I do jazz when in reality I listen to more jazz than rock. Perhaps iPhone's "Total time" plugin is a good idea.

robroe
2008-07-21, 09:06
I know this is nothing to do with SqueezeCenter and is a last.fm thing, but I totally agree about having a total time would be much better than total plays.

I was thinking about this the other day when I found that Sufjan Stevens was high up my artists as there are loads of 30 second/2 minute songs rather than longer songs by artists I would consider I listen to more. Maybe I should get on the last.fm forum :)

Craig, James \(IT\)
2008-07-21, 09:13
Try the LastFM 'normalizer':

http://www.associativetrails.com/stuff/normalisefm/

James
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ralphpnj
2008-07-21, 09:25
Try the LastFM 'normalizer':

http://www.associativetrails.com/stuff/normalisefm/

James

Thanks James, now that's more like it. It's a nice little application and gives one a better idea of just what they're spending the most time listening to.

adamslim
2008-07-21, 12:41
You can moan about it here :)

http://www.last.fm/group/Users+for+Last.fm+song+length+tracking