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dbrotzen
2008-07-03, 09:11
I'm on a Vista PC. My hdd is partitioned into C and D drives. Drive C is full so I want to split the music between C and D drives. I've read that I can point SqueezeCenter to search in multiple folders/disks by creating subfolders/linking, so that the SC will search C where it will find the link to D, where it will find part of the music collection. Someone also suggests splitting the collection alphabetically for example a-m on the C drive, n-z on the D drive.

In SqueezeCenter I can sort by artist, by album, genres etc. In Windows, however, when I try to sort, the files are presorted into a-f, g-l, m-r, etc. In addition there are music files, textfiles, and imagefiles, and therefore the sorting will get mixed up. For example Neil Young will be be found under N, while the album Live at Massey Hall will be found under the letter L. If I drag all of Neil Young into the subfolder N-Z, I wonder where the Live at Massey Hall album will end up? Does anyone know if this confuses Squeeze Center, or whether this does not present any problem to SC? And how do I split the collection in two equal "piles"?

How do I split the collection under Windows? What are the actual steps?

Thanks

Phil Leigh
2008-07-03, 09:20
lets say you have a directory on C: called music...and then directories under that for each artist/album..

so you have
c:\Music\The Beatles\Abbey Road\
c:\Music\The Beatles\The White Album\
c:\Music\Neil Young\On The Beach\
c:\Music\Neil Young\Harvest\

That's the way most people do it.

Now you want to move (say) just the Harvest album to D:


Create a folder d:\Music (or whatever - doesn't matter what it is called)
move c:\Music\Neil Young\Harvest\(all files) to
d:\Music\Neil Young\Harvest\

in the folder c:\music, put a (Windows) shortcut to d:\music

set your Squeezecentre Music Folder to C:\Music

Clear and rescan everything

Done!

You can split artists across drives without a problem, but you might find it easier to manage things if you go for a logical split...artsist a-L on one drive or whatever.

SC uses the tags in the files to organise your music - you do have everything tagged properly, don't you?. If not, stop now and sort that out first!

Phil Leigh
2008-07-03, 09:26
I'm on a Vista PC. My hdd is partitioned into C and D drives. Drive C is full so I want to split the music between C and D drives. I've read that I can point SqueezeCenter to search in multiple folders/disks by creating subfolders/linking, so that the SC will searching C will find the link to D, and also include searching for music there.

Someone also suggests splitting the collection alphabetically for example a-m n-z. In SqueezeCenter I can sort by artist, by album, genres etc. In Windows, however, when I try to sort, the files are presorted into a-f, g-l, m-r, etc. In addition there are music files, textfiles, and imagefiles, and therefore the sorting will get mixed up. For example Neil Young will be be found under N, while the album Live at Massey Hall will be found under the letter L. If I drag all of Neil Young into the subfolder N-Z, I wonder where the Live at Massey Hall album will end up? Does anyone know if this confuses Squeeze Center, or whether this does not present any problem to SC?

How do I split the collection under Windows? What are the actual steps?

Thanks


this is a double post - can you kill it please before we all get confused!

dbrotzen
2008-07-03, 09:38
Thanks Phil,

Well, perhaps Vista is too sophisticated, or I'm too new to it, because when I explore the C: drive it shows the files as C:/Music and then it just lists them by song number - artist - song - album.filetype.

I had EAC autotag them accordingly when I ripped them as flac files based on recommendations. It seemed as good as any other way of tagging them at the time. I haven't used any external tagging program, or processed the files after ripping.

So when I sort the files in Windows by name, they are sorted by all number 01's first, 02's next etc. If I try to sort them differently they end up as A-F as stated earlier. So I guess I must have tagged them in a very non-helpful way then. I understood this tagging to be useful since it would list songs in order by SC.

Any further clarification appreciated.

Phil Leigh
2008-07-03, 09:52
Thanks Phil,

Well, perhaps Vista is too sophisticated, or I'm too new to it, because when I explore the C: drive it shows the files as C:/Music and then it just lists them by song number - artist - song - album.filetype.

I had EAC autotag them accordingly when I ripped them as flac files based on recommendations. It seemed as good as any other way of tagging them at the time. I haven't used any external tagging program, or processed the files after ripping.

So when I sort the files in Windows by name, they are sorted by all number 01's first, 02's next etc. If I try to sort them differently they end up as A-F as stated earlier. So I guess I must have tagged them in a very non-helpful way then. I understood this tagging to be useful since it would list songs in order by album.

Any further clarification appreciated.

I'm not sure I'm fully getting this but it seems that you have all of your music files in a single folder called c:\music...no sub-folders? Is that right?

Anyway, all is not lost. Sounds like your tags are OK since everything shows correctly in SC.

You can follow the steps I gave you - just grab the files you want to move to D: and drop them into D:\music and add the shortcut.

It sounds like when you used EAC you didn't get it to create separate folders for artist/album...

How many albums do you have?

dbrotzen
2008-07-03, 10:01
Yes, thas's it. And I did not realize I had to create subfolders for every album, nor how to do get EAC to do it for me. I pointed EAC where to download the files. 347 albums, 5000 songs. SC finds, lists, and plays everything without a problem.

dbrotzen
2008-07-03, 10:11
You can follow the steps I gave you - just grab the files you want to move to D: and drop them into D:\music and add the shortcut.



So I may grab all files named 01 - 05, for example, and drop them into D:\ Music, regardless of which artist/album they belong to? So will SC find the right song if I play an album regardless? Otherwise, searching through all songs manually will take forever. [What really is a bit frustrating is that I cannot deselect the numbering (defined as "name" according to Windows) in Windows Explorer, everything else is optional.]

Phil Leigh
2008-07-03, 10:16
So I may grab all files named 01 - 05, for example, and drop them into D:\ Music, regardless of which artist/album they belong to? So will SC find the right song if I play an album regardless. Otherwise, searching through all songs manually will take forever. [What really is a bit frustrating is that I cannot deselect the numbering (defined as "name" according to Windows) in Windows Explorer, everything else is optional.]

Just grab a track and move it to D:\music and try it! Make sure you don't create duplicate tracks on c & d or it WILL get ccconfused!!

dbrotzen
2008-07-03, 10:40
Just grab a track and move it to D:\music and try it! Make sure you don't create duplicate tracks on c & d or it WILL get ccconfused!!

What happens: I get duplicate albums, with the songs on each drive listed under each of the duplicate albums. Hmmm. So I should have had a little bit more patience before I started ripping. You wouldn't have any other suggestions, would you?

Phil Leigh
2008-07-03, 10:49
What happens: I get duplicate albums, with the songs on each drive listed under each of the duplicate albums. Hmmm. So I should have had a little bit more patience before I started ripping. You wouldn't have any other suggestions, would you?


Yes! - you need to move whole albums worth of songs at a time, rather than splitting an album across disks...that's much quicker than the alternative of manually creating a proper directory structure, using explorer.

I realise this is complicated by the fact that your file sort order is being driven by the 01_ etc at the beginning of each file name.

I don't know of any tools that could help with that (cue the rest of the forum)


Anyway, I've shown you how to split your collection across disks - I'm afraid the rest is up to you and a bottle of wine or whatever :o)

radish
2008-07-03, 11:19
Something like mp3tag will be able to create the subfolders and move the files based on the tags. Then you can move whole albums easily from one disk to another.

Phil Leigh
2008-07-03, 11:52
Something like mp3tag will be able to create the subfolders and move the files based on the tags. Then you can move whole albums easily from one disk to another.

really - I've got mp3tag - how do you get it to make folders from an existing file name / tag?

radish
2008-07-03, 12:24
really - I've got mp3tag - how do you get it to make folders from an existing file name / tag?

I believe you can use the actions stuff to do it, there are some examples in the mp3tag forums I think. I've never done it myself with mp3tag but I have with JRMC.

jeffmeh
2008-07-03, 13:31
I don't have mp3tag in front of me, but it is something akin to "Tags -> Filenames." There is even an icon to do it up in the menu bar. You need to supply a format string, and you likely want a different format string for compilations.

moley6knipe
2008-07-03, 23:49
Yes, Tag > Filename it is...

%artist%\%album%\$num(%track%,2)-%title% ...will do it nicely. If you're doing this to your whole library in one go then do a complete back-up first! Just in case...

moley6knipe
2008-07-03, 23:51
Comps are going to be harder, unless you;ve tagged them with a Compilation tag. If so you can create a "regular expression" within mp3tag to move comps based on that - without that tag there'll be a bit of manual work involved.

Nonreality
2008-07-04, 01:18
I like a space before and after the - (dash)just makes it read nicer in some programs. If you don't have a bunch of comps you could just do this and sort the comps out later.

Sike
2008-07-05, 02:33
With windows you can mount a disk in to a sub folder.

Failing that, take a look at the "junction" tool provided by sysinternals (now Microsoft). With that you can hard-link a folder in to a folder on a diffent drive.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768.aspx

tamanaco
2008-07-05, 04:31
If the partitions are in the same physical drive you can use a utility like partitionmagic to repartion the drive into a single "primary-active" partition. Of course, if you have data on both partitions you would need to backup the data of the extended partition into an external drive before proceding. The other solution is to get a large USB 2.0 external drive and move your music library to that drive. Now-a-days the price of large capacity external drives have come down significantly. Heck you can get 500GB external drive for under $100... get two and make a duplicate for backup. Having your library on dedicated external drive also buys more flexibility. Btw. I'm assuming that you want a "single" music library in your SC server.