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Richard O Callaghan
2004-03-04, 13:26
Hi all,

Will the WMA support allow us to play licensed(?) files downloaded to the same PC as Slimserver? Would such files play if they are stored on a different network drive?

Reason I ask is that since itunes isn't available n europe, most music services seem to use 'licensed' WMA as far as I can see, if thatís a name for it.

Thanks,

Richard

dean
2004-03-04, 21:31
Alas, no. Microsoft's license doesn't allow us to convert the DRM
protected files to play back on Squeezebox.

-dean

On Mar 4, 2004, at 12:26 PM, Richard O Callaghan wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Will the WMA support allow us to play licensed(?) files downloaded to
> the same PC as Slimserver? Would such files play if they are stored
> on a different network drive?
>
> Reason I ask is that since itunes isn't available n europe, most music
> services seem to use 'licensed' WMA as far as I can see, if thatís a
> name for it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard
>
>

Richard Duval
2004-03-05, 07:06
I have the same problem here in Canada! the only licensed service available
sends these damn WMA's and the US ones refuse to sell to anyone outside the
US.

Does anyone know of a utility to change these to a usable format like MP3's?

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:31 PM
Subject: [slim] WMA Question


> Alas, no. Microsoft's license doesn't allow us to convert the DRM
> protected files to play back on Squeezebox.
>
> -dean
>
> On Mar 4, 2004, at 12:26 PM, Richard O Callaghan wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Will the WMA support allow us to play licensed(?) files downloaded to
> > the same PC as Slimserver? Would such files play if they are stored
> > on a different network drive?
> >
> > Reason I ask is that since itunes isn't available n europe, most music
> > services seem to use 'licensed' WMA as far as I can see, if thatís a
> > name for it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >

Bob Myers
2004-03-05, 10:57
Quoting Richard Duval:

> I have the same problem here in Canada! the only licensed service
available
> sends these damn WMA's and the US ones refuse to sell to anyone
outside the
> US.
>
> Does anyone know of a utility to change these to a usable format like
> MP3's?

Burn them to a CD-ROM, then re-rip that. God only knows what is
happening to the poor bits in your music as they run this gauntlet.

You've found just one of the many good reasons never to buy from an
on-line music store. CDs don't cost much more, have 100% of the bits on
them, have no DRM problems, and are their own backup.

--
Bob Myers

jacobdp
2004-03-05, 14:03
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:57:09 -0800, you wrote:
>You've found just one of the many good reasons never to buy from an
>on-line music store. CDs don't cost much more, have 100% of the bits on
>them, have no DRM problems, and are their own backup.

How about iTunes? There are a bunch of ways to get rid of the
encryption without losing quality.

- Jacob

Ron Thigpen
2004-03-05, 14:14
Jacob Potter wrote:

> How about iTunes? There are a bunch of ways to get rid of the
> encryption without losing quality.

Without losing quality from what basis point? These files are stored as
AAC, a lossy compression format. They are already lower fidelity
versions of the originals. An accurate extraction from a CD copy would
fully recreate the originals.

You may be able to get around the AAC encryption and end up with either
the original AAC bitstrem, or a WAV decoding of that bitstream, but
you'll never get back all the bits that were in the original.
Re-encoding either of these in a lossy format will result in one more
generational loss of quality.

--rt

Walter Williams
2004-03-05, 14:17
Yep,
I won't post a link here, but Google for m4p2mp4 for more information.

This combined with Andrew W. Donoho's excellent instructions for AAC/MP4
decoding on linux and I'm very happy.

Dean (if your reading),
Any update on when SlimServer will support reading iTunes/MP4 tags?

Walter...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Potter" <jacobdp (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:03 PM
Subject: [slim] WMA Question


> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:57:09 -0800, you wrote:
> >You've found just one of the many good reasons never to buy from an
> >on-line music store. CDs don't cost much more, have 100% of the bits on
> >them, have no DRM problems, and are their own backup.
>
> How about iTunes? There are a bunch of ways to get rid of the
> encryption without losing quality.
>
> - Jacob
>
>
>

Rick Duval
2004-03-06, 18:49
True but it would be nice to only buy the couple of songs you usually want instead of the whole album. Plus it is convenient, or it would be if they were 192k MP3's or better. Oh well, keep waiting, it's got to happen sooner or later if they wish to stop (read slow down) piracy.

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Myers
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:57 PM
Subject: [slim] WMA Question


Quoting Richard Duval:

> I have the same problem here in Canada! the only licensed service
available
> sends these damn WMA's and the US ones refuse to sell to anyone
outside the
> US.
>
> Does anyone know of a utility to change these to a usable format like
> MP3's?

Burn them to a CD-ROM, then re-rip that. God only knows what is
happening to the poor bits in your music as they run this gauntlet.

You've found just one of the many good reasons never to buy from an
on-line music store. CDs don't cost much more, have 100% of the bits on
them, have no DRM problems, and are their own backup.

--
Bob Myers

Christopher Biscoe
2004-03-07, 06:54
This might seem like a newbie question, so apologies if I am treading
over well-trodden or facile territory. I have just stumbled onto the
Touch skin really like its interface. While its not perfect, it is
quite pleasant to use.

However, I can't for the life of me find where in Touch I can get to
server and player settings. Most other functionality is buried
somewhere in the skin, so I am certain that it is too, but even though
it might be right in front of me, I can't find it. Any guidance would
be much appreciated.

Regards,

Chris

love this thing.... converted two more tonight...