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SoftPhill
2008-05-22, 13:02
Hi all, i love this forum and own 2 SB3 and 2 duets. I see loads of threads on intermittent wifi issues and 50% of the time at least it turns out to be the router. I was wondering if Slimdevices have thought about a recommendation list for routers that they know are up to the task to help us make a choice.

Better still, have you ever thought about a "Logitech" router optimised for Squeezecenter?

cparker
2008-05-22, 13:22
Have you had a look at the wiki?? Then buy a Netgear N series ;)

bklaas
2008-05-22, 13:23
I don't own one, but take a look at this:
http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/mediaflex/adapter/

pfarrell
2008-05-22, 13:34
SoftPhill wrote:
> I see loads of
> threads on intermittent wifi issues and 50% of the time at least it
> turns out to be the router. I was wondering if Slimdevices have thought
> about a recommendation list for routers that they know are up to the
> task to help us make a choice.

I do *not* work for SD/Logitech. But my recommendation is to get a
Linksys WRT54GL [note the L (el)] on the end. You can get them mail
order from all the usual places, I typically use newegg or tigerdirect.
They sell for $60.

They work great and you can use third party firmware, such as DD-WRT or
Tomato, if the Linksys firmware doesn't meet you needs.


--
Pat Farrell
http://www.pfarrell.com/

jsprag
2008-05-22, 15:02
SoftPhill wrote:
> I see loads of
> threads on intermittent wifi issues and 50% of the time at least it
> turns out to be the router. I was wondering if Slimdevices have thought
> about a recommendation list for routers that they know are up to the
> task to help us make a choice.

I do *not* work for SD/Logitech. But my recommendation is to get a
Linksys WRT54GL [note the L (el)] on the end. You can get them mail
order from all the usual places, I typically use newegg or tigerdirect.
They sell for $60.

They work great and you can use third party firmware, such as DD-WRT or
Tomato, if the Linksys firmware doesn't meet you needs.


--
Pat Farrell
http://www.pfarrell.com/

Another vote for the WRT54GL. I have one of these plus two Buffalo routers (same chipset) with the Tomato firmware and they are great devices.

iPhone
2008-05-22, 15:09
Hi all, i love this forum and own 2 SB3 and 2 duets. I see loads of threads on intermittent wifi issues and 50% of the time at least it turns out to be the router. I was wondering if Slimdevices have thought about a recommendation list for routers that they know are up to the task to help us make a choice.

Better still, have you ever thought about a "Logitech" router optimised for Squeezecenter?

I would get a Linksys WRT54GL as PFarrell suggests or the WRT300N. If you think range and signal might be an issue, I sugguest spending the extra dollars on the 300N.

pfarrell
2008-05-22, 15:21
jsprag wrote:
> Another vote for the WRT54GL. I have one of these plus two Buffalo
> routers (same chipset) with the Tomato firmware and they are great
> devices.

Buffalo makes the chips inside a lot of Wireless routers. For some
reason, Buffalo can no longer sell their routers in the US, some
copyright/patent legal thing. Same chip, same firmware abilities.

One big one, for some folks, is the ability to crank up the radio power,
for more range.


--
Pat Farrell
http://www.pfarrell.com/

mvalera
2008-05-22, 15:33
SoftPhill wrote:
> I see loads of
> threads on intermittent wifi issues and 50% of the time at least it
> turns out to be the router. I was wondering if Slimdevices have thought
> about a recommendation list for routers that they know are up to the
> task to help us make a choice.

I do *not* work for SD/Logitech. But my recommendation is to get a
Linksys WRT54GL [note the L (el)] on the end. You can get them mail
order from all the usual places, I typically use newegg or tigerdirect.
They sell for $60.

They work great and you can use third party firmware, such as DD-WRT or
Tomato, if the Linksys firmware doesn't meet you needs.


--
Pat Farrell
http://www.pfarrell.com/

Seconded... or thirded... whatever. :)

Mike

bobkoure
2008-05-22, 16:09
One big one, for some folks, is the ability to crank up the radio power, for more range.

Another big one is repeater/bridge mode. Have a really large/difficult area to cover? Use a repeater to get the signal out to where you need. Takes a second router, but if the clients in question don't have 'n', that's IMHO the best way (short of pulling wire).

jth
2008-05-22, 16:23
WRT54GL + Tomato Firmware

Nonreality
2008-05-22, 20:11
I fully recommend the Net Gear WNR854T N series router. I replaced an older Netgear with it and the results were pretty phenomenal. I was just commenting today to my son how we have maybe had one drop in the 3 months of using it. I can run my laptop at the N rate without problems with the Squeezebox being a g rate. With the old one Youtube was not very good and it runs very smooth and usable.

Mnyb
2008-05-22, 20:41
WRT54GL with Tomato fw.
Cranked up the radio, and the little thing has really good antennas.
And it can handle WOL over internet and QOS and even more stuff.

I can NOT recommend the NetGear WGT624v3 it's.
Mainly because it's a little buggy and is much weaker in the radio then the linksys.
And it has no WOL over internet.
It is no problem using it (after some fiddling) ,but as the Linksys WRT54GL exist, there is no point with anything else in that price range.

JimC
2008-05-22, 21:03
Seconded... or thirded... whatever. :)

Mike

Linksys WRT54GL is what I use at home. Solid as a rock with everything I use (Squeezeboxes, Vudu, Playstations, Wii, computers, phones, etc).


-=> Jim

jsprag
2008-05-22, 21:03
Buffalo makes the chips inside a lot of Wireless routers.

I think you are thinking of Broadcom. They make the chips inside the Linux WRT54 series as well as several others (such as the Buffalo AirStation).

Uluen
2008-05-23, 01:57
Another vote for Linksys WRT54GL.
Use DD-WRT or Tomato firmware. I had ~280 days uptime before last (manual) reboot, no problems at all.

pfarrell
2008-05-24, 13:45
I think you are thinking of Broadcom. They make the chips inside the Linux WRT54 series as well as several others (such as the Buffalo AirStation).

Yes, you are right, I'm wrong.
Broadcom is the chip. They are in many routers. Check the DD-WRT site for a long list.

radish
2008-05-25, 10:47
I've had excellent results with both the new D-Link N models and the Ruckus (which is however basically impossible to buy).

JoeLR
2008-05-26, 04:15
Hello, I'm wondering if anyone is using an Apple Airport Extreme Base Station (AEBS) w/ no issues? I'm still trying to decide which SB version to get (SB Duet or Transporter), but want to make sure it'll "play nice" w/ my current gear (I'm a Mac user)...

FredFredrickson
2008-05-26, 06:20
After reading this thread, I decided to buy the WRT54GL and try tomato,
so if anybody's interested I found it on newegg for $50 (with a $10 mail in rebate)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190

(I don't work for logitech or newegg)

pfarrell
2008-05-26, 08:48
FredFredrickson wrote:
> After reading this thread, I decided to buy the WRT54GL and try tomato,

Please followup with how it works for you


--
Pat Farrell
http://www.pfarrell.com/

killie99
2008-05-28, 12:58
Does it matter what version of the WRT54Gl you buy as I've seen V1.0 and V1.1 advertised?

jth
2008-05-28, 13:15
Any WRT54GL model should be OK.

It's only the current models of WRT54G and WRT54GS that don't work with
most 3rd party firmware.

pfarrell
2008-05-28, 13:23
killie99 wrote:
> Does it matter what version of the WRT54GL you buy as I've seen V1.0 and
> V1.1 advertised?

Not if you plan to run DD-WRT or Tomato. The version number just
reflects the firmware that Linksys installs.

There may be some difference in the hardware, but every one I've seen
looks identical.

There is much more of a difference between the WRT54GL and WRT54G (no-L)

--
Pat Farrell
http://www.pfarrell.com/

killie99
2008-05-28, 13:46
thanks for the quick replies!

bobkoure
2008-05-29, 07:26
The pre-version-5 'G' versions were fine, too. (the v5 GL is essentially a v4 'G').
Probably only important to know if you're using Craig's list or e-Pay.