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Simon Turner
2004-03-02, 00:39
This old chestnut.

The output level of the analogue-out is too low, so to get the required
volume from my speakers I have to wind the main volume knob on my amp much
further up than I do for any other peripheral. (FYI I use the best analogue
quality setting for my player)
Using the digital-out and the Arcam Dac the brings the output from the
Squeezebox up to the same level as any of the other peripheals i have hooked
up to my amplifier.

I can still rattle the neighbours out of bed when using the SB analogue-outs
a long as I turn up the volume on my amplifier further than I would normally
have to.

Maybe it's just my Squeezebox that's like this then... or perhaps some
peculiar interaction with the line input amplifiers of my amp (pre-amp,
strictly speaking).

Simon Turner
Brighton UK


> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com]On Behalf Of kdf
> Sent: 01 March 2004 22:47
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] External DACs
>
>
> Quoting Simon Turner <simon (AT) brighton (DOT) co.uk>:
>
> > It is very reasonable to assume that you'll get a better sound
> quality from
> > the SB with a stand alone DAC. There are a couple of recent
> threads it may
> > be worth you reading: "[OT] Audiophiles: Can the audio reproduction of
> > theCDbeequalled or bettered?" and Squeezebox SP-DIF parameters.
> > The general consensus seems to be that there is very little
> reason that you
> > should not get very good quality reproduction indeed from a
> Squeezebox as
> > long as:
> >
> > * You rip your Flacs correctly (using something like Exact Audio copy)
> > * You use an external DAC. A couple of people in these
> discussions have been
> > talking about adding quite expensive DACs to their SBs ($1000+!).
> >
> > I bought an Arcam Delta Black Box (over ten years old) via eBay for just
> > less than 100 (UK sterling) to see if it would improve the
> sound of the SB.
> > It was 100 very well spent. The sound quality has measurably
> improved and
> > is much nearer to that obtained from my Naim CDX than it is to the SB
> > analogue-outs. In addition the volume level, which was always
> frustratingly
> > low from the analogue-outs is now on a par with that of all my other
> > peripherals.
>
> going on a tangent here, this always confuses me when you bring
> it up. I do use
> my SB with didgital out to my Yamaha RX595 (relatively cheap
> tuner/amp/dac), but
> when I had it hooked up using analog cables, I could still rattle
> the neighbours
> out of bed if I wanted to. Granted, its a shared wall, but I'm just not
> understanding how you end up with 'frustratingly low' outputs.
> In fact, my
> second SB using optical needs to be turned down from when I'm using my dvd
> player or I would again be waking neighbours. Last time I used
> analog was before
> the 'fixed digital output' settigs came into effect. Maybe that
> has some effect
> on the analog outputs.
>
> -kdf
>
>
>
>
>

kdf
2004-03-02, 00:54
Quoting Simon Turner <simon (AT) brighton (DOT) co.uk>:

> This old chestnut.
>
> The output level of the analogue-out is too low, so to get the required
> volume from my speakers I have to wind the main volume knob on my amp much
> further up than I do for any other peripheral. (FYI I use the best analogue
> quality setting for my player)

have you tried the analogue outputs using the other setting?

-kdf