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2004-02-26, 11:17
Kevin,
Couldn't agree more!!! I too have caching enabled... doesn't seem to make much, impact, of course i could buy a dedicated server but that still doesn't solve the problem of wanting to incorporate my new mp3 files of a single album in the database within thirty seconds or less, - if I'm having a party generally we want music and we want it NOW !!!!! If we're really getting after it the attention span is measured in milliseconds !!!!

The only way i have to get round it is to switch my amp to another channel and play new stuff through winamp and a sonica m-audio USB external card but this isn't ideal....

Creatives new system is no where near as pretty, having to navigate round a large music library on whats basically a cell phone can't be good but I bet they've got something sorted on the file management / ID3 tag database sort of issue... So being pro the small guys hopefully something can happen , unfortunately I don't know anything about Perl for windows - not much call for it in drilling these days!!!

I'd be quite happy to dedicate a special 250 gig drive just for the static library if that's what it takes.... in fact that's what I've got already....

Rich



Kevin Hawkins <lists (AT) ukusa (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote:
I have found that while the 'tag database' does speed things up a
little it's not by the amount that I had hoped for. I am not even sure it's
working right for me on XP. I also have 70,000 tracks and when I restart my
server with the tag database enabled the SliMP3 players screens do not even
'appear' until a good 10-15 minutes after startup - which for a consumer
product I feel is a serious flaw as it makes people feel it's not working.
The web server is also unavailable. After this 'blackout' of 10 mins the
library is still not yet available and steadily grows as the indexing of the
whole library is further undertaken. I am not convinced this 'tag' option is
supposed to even require the index - but it still does it. Avoiding that
seemed to be the purpose of the TAG option. It takes a good 45 mins to
complete still. Without the 'tag' option enabled it does take longer though
- over an hour. This is on a 512MB XP machine - 1.2GHz - mostly dedicated to
the SliMP3 Server and 8 players. My reboots happen with the necessity of
say Windows Updates and track management.

Like Richard I have previously asked about the possibility of a
'static' library and a 'additions' library area that could have the most
recent albums added/removed and rescanned / incorporated quickly. It was
suggested this could already be achieved using a separate directory and
navigating into this from the SliMP3 causing the directory to be re-read and
updated but this is partially broken on the current releases. (Bug Report
filed).

Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf
> Of Jason Holtzapple
> Sent: 26 February 2004 12:50
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] Music Library stuff _ Rescanning is
> chaining my music tothe railings!!! _ HELP!!!!!!
>
> --- richard coe wrote:
> > Hi
> > Is anyone else fed up with waiting for their library's
> to scan? Maybe
> > I'm just doing something stupid but as I have to use the
> machine thats
> > my server to run other stuff sometimes it has to reboot
> or i just
> > crash the ****** thing...
>
> Enabling the MP3 Tag Database should make rescans pretty
> snappy at the expense of extra RAM usage.

kdf
2004-02-26, 11:32
Quoting richard coe <yoshcoe (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk>:

> Kevin,
> Couldn't agree more!!! I too have caching enabled... doesn't seem to make
> much, impact, of course i could buy a dedicated server but that still doesn't
> solve the problem of wanting to incorporate my new mp3 files of a single
> album in the database within thirty seconds or less, - if I'm having a party
> generally we want music and we want it NOW !!!!! If we're really getting
> after it the attention span is measured in milliseconds !!!!
>
> The only way i have to get round it is to switch my amp to another channel
> and play new stuff through winamp and a sonica m-audio USB external card but
> this isn't ideal....
>
> Creatives new system is no where near as pretty, having to navigate round a
> large music library on whats basically a cell phone can't be good but I bet
> they've got something sorted on the file management / ID3 tag database sort
> of issue... So being pro the small guys hopefully something can happen ,
> unfortunately I don't know anything about Perl for windows - not much call
> for it in drilling these days!!!
>
> I'd be quite happy to dedicate a special 250 gig drive just for the static
> library if that's what it takes.... in fact that's what I've got already....
>
> Rich

at some point, the tag cache wasn't working in Windows, due to some issue with
the Storable module that handles the database. Have you run slim.exe --d_info
to confirm that the database in actually being used? I only have 10k songs, but
I can certainly see a difference. I'm using Linux so I dont have the same
issue. Also worth noting, the static file left behind by storable is 9M on my
system. You can only start up as fast as that file can be read into memory.
Assuming a linear ramp, 70k songs would be 60-70M of static library which would
need to be loaded and oerganised into the memeory cache.

-kdf