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JimC
2008-04-15, 17:47
All:

Thanks to the heroic efforts of Brandon B., one of our engineers, we've completed the migration from Kwiki to Media Wiki! It's not nearly as broken as the previous attempts at migration, so we've made it active effectively immediately.

There is still some work to be done, so anyone who had previously volunteered is more than welcome to dive in and start editing! If you hadn't volunteered, you're still welcome... we can use all the help we can get. There's a page detailing known issues, as well as a Style Guide, but neither is complete and you're free to contribute anywhere.

The new wiki is directly available at http://mwiki.slimdevices.com.

Thanks in advance for your patience as we complete the migration and for you help in getting us there.

-=> Jim

JJZolx
2008-04-15, 18:07
Jim, is there any way to break apart the run-on words used in the previous wiki? Things like:

RunningMultipleSlimServers
.../index.php/RunningMultipleSlimServers

Some kind of global search and replace (a lot of them, needless to say)? Looking at Wikipedia, I gather that this url, if spaces were present, would be

.../index.php/Running_Multiple_Slim_Servers

It might be a good idea to set up a robots.txt file to keep search engine spyders out of the wiki for a little while, particularly if page URLs will be change or reorganized significantly.

http://mwiki.slimdevices.com/robots.txt

JimC
2008-04-15, 18:47
Jim, is there any way to break apart the run-on words used in the previous wiki? Things like:

RunningMultipleSlimServers
.../index.php/RunningMultipleSlimServers

Some kind of global search and replace (a lot of them, needless to say)? Looking at Wikipedia, I gather that this url, if spaces were present, would be

.../index.php/Running_Multiple_Slim_Servers

It might be a good idea to set up a robots.txt file to keep search engine spyders out of the wiki for a little while, particularly if page URLs will be change or reorganized significantly.

http://mwiki.slimdevices.com/robots.txt

Hi Jim:

Brandon suggest that the "move" command could be used to create the separated URLs, but that leaves a permanent link around. BKlaas used to be a media wiki admin, so I'll see if he has any input on making that change on a global basis without leaving a lot of links behind.

Good suggestion on the robots.txt file. I don't have right to create it, but I'll get someone on that right away.

-=> Jim

erland
2008-04-15, 21:45
I've updated the plugin pages due to two isses:

1.
mailto links looked like this:
[Firstname Lastname mailto:username@example.com]

While they need to look like this in MediaWiki:
[mailto:username@example.com Firstname Lastname]

I've changed this in the plugin pages, but there might be other places.

2.
Some external links wasn't converted correctly, especially when there was several external links in the same sentence.

They looked something like this:
[userfriendly link name http://example.com]
Or like this:
[http://example.com/firstlink.html] some other text [userfriendly name of last link http://example.com/lastlink.html]userfriendly name of first link.

The result is that urls are shown directly in the page instead of showing the user friendly name of the link.

This has been converted in the plugin pages to:
[http://example.com userfriendly link name]
And:
[http://example.com/firstlink.html userfriendly name of first link] some other text [http://example.com/lastlink.html userfriendly name of last link].

I've only corrected these issues in the plugin pages, but there might be other places so I thought I'd post them here so others could look out for the same problems in other pages.

ceejay
2008-04-16, 01:02
Whats the best way of adding navigation links amongst a group of pages (eg the BeginnersGuide, or Plugins)?

In the old wiki there was the (admittedly very crude) list of backlinks on the left, which made it easy to get back to "parent" or related pages.

Is there a way of adding navigation links on the left, locally to a page? Or is there a recommended style for adding navigation links at, say, the top of a page?

Ceejay

ceejay
2008-04-16, 01:19
Well, thats a new one - in looking at a page I found that that some person had embedded a link to an on-line drugs website! I guess we need to be on the lookout for others (it was in the BeginnersGuideToRipping but isn't any more)

Ceejay

smc2911
2008-04-16, 03:12
A quick question (apologies if this has been covered elsewhere): are there any thoughts as to how WikiRadio can be supported in the new Wiki.

Also, I noticed that when you create an account on the wiki you are presented with the message "Your account has been created. Don't forget to change your Squeezebox preferences." Does this make sense? I'm not sure what preference on the SB would be involved!

Triode
2008-04-16, 04:09
Don't think wikiradio has been worked out yet... At present you can't upload anything other than image files the wiki so we can't host opml files on it.

I would like to think we can have a wiki like interface for submitting radio station links but it would be preferable if Logitech hosted a script to index them so wiki radio did not require a plugin.

Mark Miksis
2008-04-16, 16:29
There is still some work to be done, so anyone who had previously volunteered is more than welcome to dive in and start editing! If you hadn't volunteered, you're still welcome... we can use all the help we can get. There's a page detailing known issues, as well as a Style Guide, but neither is complete and you're free to contribute anywhere.

Jim,

Have you had any further thoughts on our previous discussion about all the outdated (and just plain wrong) info in the wiki? As I mentioned before, it has gotten especially bad since 7.0 was released and there's still a lot of old info around that hasn't been updated or removed. I understand that we can all just jump in and start fixing these things, but it seems like some sort of organized triage would be useful. Maybe just a way for users to tag pages that they think are incorrect (I think wikipedia does this) and then an easy way for others to view an index of these possibly bad pages.

ceejay
2008-04-16, 16:45
Whats the best way of adding navigation links amongst a group of pages (eg the BeginnersGuide, or Plugins)?

In the old wiki there was the (admittedly very crude) list of backlinks on the left, which made it easy to get back to "parent" or related pages.

Is there a way of adding navigation links on the left, locally to a page? Or is there a recommended style for adding navigation links at, say, the top of a page?

Ceejay

In the absence of a response I've come up with a simple solution - a link at the top of each of the Beginners Guide subpages back to the parent. Any better ideas?

Ceejay

radish
2008-04-16, 17:04
Also, I noticed that when you create an account on the wiki you are presented with the message "Your account has been created. Don't forget to change your Squeezebox preferences." Does this make sense? I'm not sure what preference on the SB would be involved!

I'm guessing that "Squeezebox" is some magic token for the wiki name, as I see it popup in various places where it seems strange, e.g. (from the edit form) "Please note that all contributions to Squeezebox may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors."

Maybe "Squeezebox Wiki" would work better?

JimC
2008-04-16, 17:33
Jim,

Have you had any further thoughts on our previous discussion about all the outdated (and just plain wrong) info in the wiki? As I mentioned before, it has gotten especially bad since 7.0 was released and there's still a lot of old info around that hasn't been updated or removed. I understand that we can all just jump in and start fixing these things, but it seems like some sort of organized triage would be useful. Maybe just a way for users to tag pages that they think are incorrect (I think wikipedia does this) and then an easy way for others to view an index of these possibly bad pages.

Now that I've had a chance to muck about a bit, I think the right thing to do is to add a category tag of Edit Needed. It would look like this:


[[Category:Edit Needed]]

Then I'll link that to the Under Construction page as a reference for editors to follow.


UPDATE: This is now implemented. Please be sure to mark pages whenever you see them so we can get to the editing process as soon as possible.


-=> Jim

JimC
2008-04-16, 17:34
I'm guessing that "Squeezebox" is some magic token for the wiki name, as I see it popup in various places where it seems strange, e.g. (from the edit form) "Please note that all contributions to Squeezebox may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors."

Maybe "Squeezebox Wiki" would work better?

That's what is was supposed to be... I'll follow up with Matt W. to see if we can get that corrected.


-=> Jim

radish
2008-04-16, 17:44
One thing I just noticed doing the hardware overview is that some of the product specific pages have pretty long names. For example, hotlinking the word "Squeezebox" is going to be a pretty common requirement - but it needs this mouthful :


Everyone loves a [[Squeezebox3rdGeneration|Squeezebox]]
Any way we can make that a little easier? I'm assuming the reason SqueezeBox was used so much in the old wiki was due to auto-linking of camel case words.

Also - would be good to make the formatting help link go somewhere (even if it's just http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page :)

JimC
2008-04-16, 18:56
Whats the best way of adding navigation links amongst a group of pages (eg the BeginnersGuide, or Plugins)?

In the old wiki there was the (admittedly very crude) list of backlinks on the left, which made it easy to get back to "parent" or related pages.

Is there a way of adding navigation links on the left, locally to a page? Or is there a recommended style for adding navigation links at, say, the top of a page?

Ceejay

I'll see if we can turn on subpages... I think that's the best way (it essentially creates a breadcrumb trail of links on the page). I'll also bug BKlaas to see if he has a better method since he was once, long ago, a wiki admin (along with a bunch of other IT stuff) using MediaWiki.

If anyone else knows a better way, speak NOW so we don't have to go backward too much if we implement it the wrong way.


-=> Jim

Zaragon
2008-04-17, 13:02
Is there a way to delete pages? I guess potentially that could be dangerous so do we just orphan the page or raise a bug. Or did I miss the option?

ceejay
2008-04-17, 14:07
Just a crosspost: at http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=292571#post292571 I flag the fact that I have had a go at updating "How To Get the Best Audio Quality" and invite further updates to that page.

Ceejay

JimC
2008-04-17, 15:53
Is there a way to delete pages? I guess potentially that could be dangerous so do we just orphan the page or raise a bug. Or did I miss the option?

I can see the option to delete a page, but maybe Matt gave me special rights. Why don't you just orphan the page(s) in question and add some text that says you want this page deleted... I can find them and clean them out later.

When I get a chance, I'll coordinate with Matt W. and learn about the different rights levels. I see no reason we can't give the regular contributors a higher degree of control/access.


-=> Jim

Mark Miksis
2008-04-18, 08:05
Jim,

How would you like to handle information for SS 6.x? There is a lot of info on the wiki that is perfectly correct for 6.x, but misleading, useless or just plain wrong for 7.x. Can this info be deleted, or should it be somehow preserved for people running older versions (perhaps because they have limited hardware)?

JimC
2008-04-18, 11:03
Jim,

How would you like to handle information for SS 6.x? There is a lot of info on the wiki that is perfectly correct for 6.x, but misleading, useless or just plain wrong for 7.x. Can this info be deleted, or should it be somehow preserved for people running older versions (perhaps because they have limited hardware)?

Let's leave it, but clearly identify that the content is for SlimServer 6.5.x. I really don't want the historic data to disappear, if we can avoid it.

If there's a specific page you need my feedback on, please let me know and I'll try to take a look as soon as possible.


-=> Jim

Mark Miksis
2008-04-19, 14:07
Now that I've had a chance to muck about a bit, I think the right thing to do is to add a category tag of Edit Needed. It would look like this:


[[Category:Edit Needed]]

Then I'll link that to the Under Construction page as a reference for editors to follow.


UPDATE: This is now implemented. Please be sure to mark pages whenever you see them so we can get to the editing process as soon as possible.

OK, I must be being dense, but how do I add a category tag to a page?

Mark Miksis
2008-04-19, 15:08
OK, I must be being dense, but how do I add a category tag to a page?

Duh. Figured it out.

erland
2008-04-28, 12:14
I'll see if we can turn on subpages... I think that's the best way (it essentially creates a breadcrumb trail of links on the page). I'll also bug BKlaas to see if he has a better method since he was once, long ago, a wiki admin (along with a bunch of other IT stuff) using MediaWiki.

If anyone else knows a better way, speak NOW so we don't have to go backward too much if we implement it the wrong way.


-=> Jim

Isn't it possible to solve the backlinks by using "categories" a bit more ?
You can see how it looks like for example at the bottom of the following page: http://mwiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlay_Applet_Guide

It seems to me that it would at least be a good idea to have a category for most of the links on the main start page.

ceejay
2008-04-28, 15:02
Isn't it possible to solve the backlinks by using "categories" a bit more ?
You can see how it looks like for example at the bottom of the following page: http://mwiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlay_Applet_Guide

It seems to me that it would at least be a good idea to have a category for most of the links on the main start page.

erland - ok, I am obviously being a bit dim here but ... how did you do that? I tried editing the page to see what you'd done and there didn't seem to be anything there to generate the links.

Could you give me a clue, please? :)

Ceejay

erland
2008-04-28, 15:12
erland - ok, I am obviously being a bit dim here but ... how did you do that? I tried editing the page to see what you'd done and there didn't seem to be anything there to generate the links.

Could you give me a clue, please? :)

Ceejay
Just add the categories the page shall belong to as the following text somewhere on the page, in the sample page I linked to you can see them at the top of the page as the following code:


[[Category:SqueezeOS To Edit]]
[[Category:SqueezeOS]]
[[Category:SqueezePlay]]

ceejay
2008-04-29, 00:33
Ah, ok, see what you've done now. I found it confusing at first as when you click one of the category links you get taken to a page that doesn't exist (the page for that category). I can see that being useful for someone like you editing some pages and wanting to keep track, but you weren't planning on leaving it like that, were you?

As a trial of the concept I've created a category for "Beginners Guide Pages" with some simple content so its more user friendly.

I think I still want a link to the "parent" page from each child - otherwise its two clicks to get back, which is a bit annoying.

Ceejay

ceejay
2008-04-29, 08:40
On a separate matter, I've popped a couple of notes in "discussion" pages but there doesn't seem to be an easy way to go to pages where there is discussion present? Which isn't making this an effective means of provoking one! Any comments on a better way to do this would be welcome.

Also - there is a problem on the "Squeezebox" page, of all places: my comment in "discussion" is



The content of this page clearly relates to the specific SB1 model ... yet there are dozens of pages
that link to "Squeezebox" meaning the whole family of players. I suggest that this content be
moved to a new "SB1" page and that some new content be created here. Any objections?
Ceejay


Comments?

erland
2008-04-29, 09:10
On a separate matter, I've popped a couple of notes in "discussion" pages but there doesn't seem to be an easy way to go to pages where there is discussion present?

This should find all talk pages available:
http://mwiki.slimdevices.com/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=1

I'm not sure if you somehow can combine this search with the "Edit Needed" category.

erland
2008-04-29, 09:15
Ah, ok, see what you've done now. I found it confusing at first as when you click one of the category links you get taken to a page that doesn't exist (the page for that category). I can see that being useful for someone like you editing some pages and wanting to keep track, but you weren't planning on leaving it like that, were you?

It wasn't me, I just found that page and listed it as an example.
Someone else had already added the categories.



As a trial of the concept I've created a category for "Beginners Guide Pages" with some simple content so its more user friendly.

I think I still want a link to the "parent" page from each child - otherwise its two clicks to get back, which is a bit annoying.

Just to be sure, with "parent" page I suppose you mean the parent page and not the page you came from ?
The reason I'm asking is because "the page you came from" is probably easiest accessed by just hitting the "back" button in the web browser.

ceejay
2008-04-29, 10:04
Just to be sure, with "parent" page I suppose you mean the parent page and not the page you came from ?
The reason I'm asking is because "the page you came from" is probably easiest accessed by just hitting the "back" button in the web browser.

I did really mean "parent", yes. There is a certain amount of inline navigation amongst the various pages, and being able to go up a level seems like a good idea. For the moment I've just added a fixed link at the top of each page, until someone has a better idea.

Thanks also for the pointer on "discussion" pages. I guess all we need now is for people to start using them!

Ceejay

erland
2008-04-29, 10:27
I did really mean "parent", yes. There is a certain amount of inline navigation amongst the various pages, and being able to go up a level seems like a good idea. For the moment I've just added a fixed link at the top of each page, until someone has a better idea.

I think the correct way to do is is through sub pages, but that is disabled by default as JimC said a few posts back in this thread.
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Subpages

bpa
2008-04-29, 14:05
How can we get at the old wiki radio pages to move content - I'd like to copy the Infobrowser stuff but I can't access old wiki ?

For wikiradio users -the wikireadio page also has disappeared - it was supposed to stay until equivalent functionality was provided.

vrobin
2008-04-30, 15:26
Still no access to the old InfoBrowser wiki content?

erland
2008-04-30, 21:57
If someone at Logitech sees this, it would be great if the old wiki content could be available somewhere a bit longer. It's sometimes good to be able to look at the previous wiki page when you are correcting the page in the MediaWiki, especially when you are correcting links that have gone bad in the conversion.

Earlier the old wiki was available at wiki.slimdevices.com and the new at mwiki.slimdevices.com, but sometime during the last days this changed so both points to the new wiki. Is there some way we can get access to the old kwiki content ?

erland
2008-04-30, 22:00
Are there any rules regarding donation links in pages related to third party plugins ?

Am I allowed to have a donation link like I have in the following page for the Dynamic Playlist plugin ?
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/DynamicPlayList#Bugs_and_new_features

erland
2008-05-01, 00:23
Does anyone have a suggestion for a naming strategy of pages that is related to setting up a configuration with various third party plugins ?

Maybe the actual page name doesn't matter and we should just put them in a specific category instead ? In that case, any suggestion on a good category name ? Maybe "Configuration Examples" ?

The reason for the question is that I like to move the pages regarding this that I currently have on my personal wiki.

As an example a page that describes how to setup support for ratings in SqueezeCenter: http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Setup:_Rating_support_in_SlimServer
The complete list of pages I like to move is those listed on this page: http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer_Configuration_Examples

The above mentioned pages currently have large focus on my own plugins, the idea with moving them to the slimdevices wiki is to make it possible for other plugin developers to add more information regarding their plugins that is useful in the context and also to make it possible for users to edit the contents based on their experience.

ceejay
2008-05-01, 00:44
If someone at Logitech sees this, it would be great if the old wiki content could be available somewhere a bit longer. It's sometimes good to be able to look at the previous wiki page when you are correcting the page in the MediaWiki, especially when you are correcting links that have gone bad in the conversion.

Earlier the old wiki was available at wiki.slimdevices.com and the new at mwiki.slimdevices.com, but sometime during the last days this changed so both points to the new wiki. Is there some way we can get access to the old kwiki content ?

+1

Ceejay

ceejay
2008-05-01, 00:50
Does anyone have a suggestion for a naming strategy of pages that is related to setting up a configuration with various third party plugins ?

Maybe the actual page name doesn't matter and we should just put them in a specific category instead ? In that case, any suggestion on a good category name ? Maybe "Configuration Examples" ?



I guess the page name only matters if the main route for people finding it is going to be through an alphabetical list of page names!

I'm not sure if we have a strategy for navigation yet, or a clear structure to work with. I can see, for example, quite a lot of orphaned pages but really don't know where they should be put: I think someone needs to take some leadership (with consultation here, hopefully) on this.

I think your idea of using a Category in that way is a good one (it will help people find similar pages in the darkest corners of the wiki!) but I don't think we should be relying on Categories as a main navigation route.

IMHO

Ceejay

smc2911
2008-05-05, 00:26
For wikiradio users -the wikireadio page also has disappeared - it was supposed to stay until equivalent functionality was provided.I'm missing my wikiradio! Can it be revived? It was such a great feature.

erland
2008-05-05, 12:06
Is there a reason the wiki is editable by anonymous users ?

Wouldn't it be better to at least configure it so users have to register and login before they edit a page ?

I'm guessing that this would get rid of some spamming besides the advantage that you would always see who has edited a page.

Documentation regarding changing permissions:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights

herljus
2008-05-05, 16:45
I miss wiki radio and found this a simple and easy way to access loads of stations

JimC
2008-05-07, 00:27
Are there any rules regarding donation links in pages related to third party plugins ?

Am I allowed to have a donation link like I have in the following page for the Dynamic Playlist plugin ?
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/DynamicPlayList#Bugs_and_new_features

Yes, Erland, you may have a donation link on your pages.

JimC
2008-05-07, 00:30
Does anyone have a suggestion for a naming strategy of pages that is related to setting up a configuration with various third party plugins ?

Maybe the actual page name doesn't matter and we should just put them in a specific category instead ? In that case, any suggestion on a good category name ? Maybe "Configuration Examples" ?

The reason for the question is that I like to move the pages regarding this that I currently have on my personal wiki.

As an example a page that describes how to setup support for ratings in SqueezeCenter: http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Setup:_Rating_support_in_SlimServer
The complete list of pages I like to move is those listed on this page: http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer_Configuration_Examples

The above mentioned pages currently have large focus on my own plugins, the idea with moving them to the slimdevices wiki is to make it possible for other plugin developers to add more information regarding their plugins that is useful in the context and also to make it possible for users to edit the contents based on their experience.

I would suggest using Categories as the best way to classify this. Page names should be descriptive on the content, not the navigation. Navigation is best managed with category and sub-category tags.

-=> Jim

JimC
2008-05-07, 00:31
I miss wiki radio and found this a simple and easy way to access loads of stations

We're working on a fix for that... give us another day or two and we should have the WikiRadio pages up and running. Not sure about how we'll handle InfoBrowser yet...


-=> Jim

bpa
2008-05-07, 00:50
I think there are a few other areas where attachments were useful. If there was an Slimdevices ftp site where registered users could save small text files (and possibly make directorties) and put the URL link in a page - then the problem would go away.

I think in the Plugin development guide the HelloWorld code example was attached as a complete file. Currently the layout of the HelloWorld example would scare away potential developers. Please look at this page
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/HelloWorld

smc2911
2008-05-07, 04:02
We're working on a fix for that... give us another day or two and we should have the WikiRadio pages up and running. Not sure about how we'll handle InfoBrowser yet...

-=> JimExcellent news re WikiRadio! Will the existing opml files be migrated over?

erland
2008-05-07, 10:55
I think there are a few other areas where attachments were useful. If there was an Slimdevices ftp site where registered users could save small text files (and possibly make directorties) and put the URL link in a page - then the problem would go away.

Isn't it possible to use the "Upload file" feature in the left menu, or am I missing something ?



I think in the Plugin development guide the HelloWorld code example was attached as a complete file. Currently the layout of the HelloWorld example would scare away potential developers. Please look at this page
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/HelloWorld
It would scare developers away anyway, because the code isn't executable towards SqueezeCenter 7.0, the page even seems to indicate that doesn't work together with 6.5.

bpa
2008-05-07, 11:47
Isn't it possible to use the "Upload file" feature in the left menu, or am I missing something ?

I thought there was an earlier discussion that attachments couldn't be added and I assume (possibly mistakenly because of the help text) the "Upload" was limited to images and media and some restriction on download. However it is worth some tests.



It would scare developers away anyway, because the code isn't executable towards SqueezeCenter 7.0, the page even seems to indicate that doesn't work together with 6.5.

The code did work for 6.5 but as it stands the page needs editing so it is not ready for general consumption. However user would still then have to cut & paste and save an external file rather than just click and download as before.

I'll look at the upload link and see if it can be made to work.

erland
2008-05-08, 12:54
Is it really necessary to use these long page names without any spaces in now when we are using MediaWiki as the wiki system ?

For example:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SwitchingFromSubversionBackToGeneralReleaseOrDowng radingSlimServer

Wouldn't it be better to use names with spaces so the name itself also is a human readable title in the top of the page ?

JJZolx
2008-05-08, 13:40
Is it really necessary to use these long page names without any spaces in now when we are using MediaWiki as the wiki system ?

For example:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SwitchingFromSubversionBackToGeneralReleaseOrDowng radingSlimServer

Wouldn't it be better to use names with spaces so the name itself also is a human readable title in the top of the page ?

I think I asked the same thing. These _really_ need to be updated to a readable form. It would also yield better search results.

It would probably take some type of global search and replace, as the URLs reflect the page titles. In MediaWiki a space in a page title becomes an underscore in the page name.

JimC
2008-05-09, 02:14
I think there are a few other areas where attachments were useful. If there was an Slimdevices ftp site where registered users could save small text files (and possibly make directorties) and put the URL link in a page - then the problem would go away.

I think in the Plugin development guide the HelloWorld code example was attached as a complete file. Currently the layout of the HelloWorld example would scare away potential developers. Please look at this page
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/HelloWorld

File uploads should work, with the exception of anything that MediaWiki considers HTML (like OPML formatted wikiradio entries).


-=> Jim

JimC
2008-05-09, 02:18
Excellent news re WikiRadio! Will the existing opml files be migrated over?

Sort of... the fix is just to reinstate the wikiradio portion of the old wiki, at least for now. So everything that was there before will be available.

There's a lot of "under the hood" upgrading happening with the web site right now, and we're planning to have a much better long term solution once we're done.


-=> Jim

JimC
2008-05-09, 02:24
I think I asked the same thing. These _really_ need to be updated to a readable form. It would also yield better search results.

It would probably take some type of global search and replace, as the URLs reflect the page titles. In MediaWiki a space in a page title becomes an underscore in the page name.

Some of this has been done already (by hand). In the little time I had to research the MediaWiki site, I couldn't find any scripts / tools / plug-ins that would automate the task.

I'm guessing it could possibly be done with one of the regex tools, but that's out of my league. We're a bit short on the web IT side, in terms of time, so the Kwiki "camel case" page titles will probably hang around for a while longer.

Of course, if there's someone out there with experience/expertise in this area, your contributions would be most welcome.


-=> Jim

jwka
2008-05-14, 01:10
Hi,
just wanted to let you know that the link shown in the first page of this discussion does not work.

here is the one i found out to work: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Main_Page

(btw: it makes good sense to have the link http://wiki.slimdevices.com working. So, a redirect on your server would be a good thing to think about.

Cheers
jwka

bpa
2008-05-14, 02:35
The current search is not very good for users who are looking for support of audio formats such as wma or aac.

If you search for WMA, wma, AAC or aac - no hits. Yet there are pages.

WMA page - http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/WMA
AAC page - http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/AAC

smc2911
2008-05-14, 04:06
Sort of... the fix is just to reinstate the wikiradio portion of the old wiki, at least for now. So everything that was there before will be available.Sounds fair enough. Any ETA on when it will be reinstated?

andynormancx
2008-05-15, 23:40
Would it be possible to forward links to the old wiki over to the new one ?

For example, I found this link on a third party site today:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SBRFrontButtonAndLED

I should be reasonably straight forward to put a page at http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi that presented the user with a page indicating that the wiki had changed and to give them a link to:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SBRFrontButtonAndLED

(with text explaining that the link might not work)

Or alternatively just a simple Apache rewrite rule to forward onto the new wiki ?

egd
2008-06-06, 21:33
I've written a howto guide for MusicIP integration (based on the recent thread addressing this) and would like to post it to the Wiki. As I authored it in OpenOffice and would like to avoid having to do all the formatting myself, can anyone give me any tips as to how to overcome the following error when trying to install the Sun Wiki Publisher extension:

egd
2008-06-07, 04:40
found the solution. Install openoffice.org-java-common and the OpenOffice extension will work.

The extension can be found here (http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/wikipublisher) and here's an example of its output (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Integrating_MusicIP_with_SqueezeCenter)

erland
2008-06-11, 21:30
To someone from Logitech:
Is there a reason why the wiki needs to be editable without logging in ?
Wouldn't it be better if we required users that want to edit the wiki content to register and login before they are able to edit the wiki contents ?

The reason I'm taking this up is:
1. It would avoid that changes by known contributors shows up as just an IP-address just because they forgot to login before editing the page.
2. It would probably decrease some spamming

Philip Meyer
2008-06-12, 00:30
>1. It would avoid that changes by known contributors shows up as just
>an IP-address just because they forgot to login before editing the
>page.
>
I agree. I did this the first time I posted, and then set up an account. I couldn't change the IP address to my user name, so my home IP address is stuck out in the public wiki forever.

>2. It would probably decrease some spamming
Always a good thing.

Matt Wise
2008-06-25, 17:01
FYI ... I've moved the Wiki to our new server rack, so please let me know if you have any issues with it. Until the DNS changes, you may notice you get redirected to http://test.wiki.slimdevices.com. This is normal.

4mula1
2008-07-16, 16:11
When I originally wrote the Solaris wiki I attached some files for use with the Service Management Facility (SMF) which are a couple of shell scripts and XML files. Currently files with no extension and XML files are not allowed. In the interim I just copied and pasted the contents into the wiki page, but it's so much more convenient to just download them.

Is there a better solution to this without hosting the files elsewhere?