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Jason Holtzapple
2004-02-22, 10:32
--- Simon Turner <simon (AT) brighton (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
> > One nice FLAC feature that I would like to add into the server
> > is support for embedded cuesheets. I've already written the
> > code, but I'm waiting until a pretty nasty flac bug is fixed before
> > submitting it.
> >
> > --Jason
>
> Jason.
> Does your comment mean that when this Flac big is fixed and you've added
> your code supporting embedded Cue sheets that I will be able to rip my CDs
> as single file Flacs and have Squeezebox be able to handle them correctly
> (i.e. recognise individual tracks?).

Yes. But I can't take credit for the code to parse cuesheet info from
flacs - that was added by someone else. What remains to be added is the
code to have the server actually utilize this information.

> If so, can you let me know what the Flac bug is so I can attempt to find out
> if it is likely to be fixed soon (or do you know this?).

I submitted this bug:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=851756&group_id=13478&atid=113478

It's a showstopper for embedded cuesheets and squeezebox. Development
on flac seems slow at the moment. I have no idea when it will be fixed.

> I am about to rip a load of my CDs to Flac and would much prefer to rip each
> CD to a single file, but only if the Squeezebox is likely to support single
> file rips in the near future.

I really have no idea. Since you can stitch multiple flacs back together
into a single full album flac losslessly, you might want to go multiple
files for now with a cuesheet file unless you are prepared to wait an
unknown length of time for support. This is what I'm doing.

Sorry to be the bringer of bad news - I really want this as well.

--Jason

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Pat Farrell
2004-02-23, 14:21
At 04:07 PM 2/23/2004, Simon Turner wrote:
>OK, thnaks for this Jason. I have decided to rip my CDs as multiple files.
>Now my problem is how to produce the correct cuesheet file

What's a cuesheet file?
I've FLAC'd all my files, and tagged them using FlacFrontEnd on Windws
Has all the appropriate artist, album, etc. at least as well as
Freedb/cddb/gracenotes.

Granted, they are pretty lame for classical stuff, and only OK
for older jazz, etc. but work well for pop/rock/...

> they do not seem to include any marker information and refer to
> individual wav files
>rather than flac files (see below).

I'm very curious about what marker information is, how it is used, etc.

Thanks
Pat

Dan Sully
2004-02-23, 17:24
* Simon Turner <simon (AT) brighton (DOT) co.uk> shaped the electrons to say...

>I have a lot of mix CDs. I also used to use Winamp 2 as my player and got
>really annoyed that Winamp ruined the mixing by adding a small gap between
>each track. Then I came across the excellent Foobar2000 player. This
>recognises cue files (or cuesheets) enabling me to burn a whole mix CD as
>one file. The cuesheet tells foobar what track is playing when and contains
>markers for the beginning of each track and the end of each track (bearing
>in mind that the tracks are mixed into each other). The cuesheet allows
>playlists to be built containing individual tracks from single file CD rips.
>Slimserver supportss cuesheets in the same manner, but unfortunately only
>for mp3 files, not Flac... :-(
>I have got used to singe file CD rips and I now prefer them over individual
>track rips (neatness, no timing problems on mix cds).

FLAC does not have the gapping problem with individual files.

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Pat Farrell
2004-02-24, 13:06
At 09:53 AM 2/24/2004, David Cullen wrote:
>I don't seem to be able to get tag to work in FlacFrontEnd. I'm trying to
>do the same as you have Pat. Ie. Rip the files during the day and then
>encode them to flac overnight. Worked out how to get EAC to create a
>genre/artist/cd/track_title tree structure fine.

OK, I'll assume you are using Windows for ripping, like I do.

For all this testing, use a small directory, or even just a single file.

First, does tag work at all for you?
You should be able to fire up a CMD shell and enter
tag *

and get something that looks like rational tag output.
Try this on files that you know have good tags and try it on files
you are having problem with.


>So then I open up FlacFrontEnd and bring in the files I want to encode.
>Output directory is set to be the same as input directory and "add tags"
>is ticked.

So far, so good.


>In tagconfig I am unsure as to what to select. I've tried using
>autoconfigure but when encoding it says it's failed to add the tag. Should
>I use custom and if so what should I put in there?

I use Custom and have G\A\L\N - T
in there. Nothing else is entered in the Tag Confguration dialog box fields

>Also should I be putting something in the artist / cd etc boxes below? If
>so what?

You should not have to.
Tag should read the file name/path and parse out the stuff. that is what
the G\A\L\N-T
tells it to do. Genre \ artist \ albumname \ <track> - <song title>


>Sorry for all the probably very dumb and simple questions and if anyone
>would prefer I took these offline please just say so!

Lets keep this on-list a little while, as others may have the same
questions later.

Try this, and let us/me know how it works.

Pat