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nswint
2008-03-16, 20:37
Has anyone had success with Live365 or any internet radio streams scrobbling to last.fm?

pichonCalavera
2008-03-18, 11:02
I\'ve tested in the past scrobbling Pandora tracks to Last.fm and it scrobbled succesfully. When there was the new beta Squeezenetwork, some internet radio would scrobble, but it really depends on the radio station, since in order to scrobble the radio stations, they radio stations have to send the song information in a specific way so that it can be identified for scrobbling to Last.fm.

For me, Internet radio stations would sometimes scrobble and sometimes not, but that was back when the beta Squeezenetwork was used, I haven\'t checked lately if it has improved.

Saying that, if I remember correctly there are 4 ways to scrobble music to Last.fm, depending on the player source:

- User tracks (the ones you play normally from your PC).
- Last.fm radio tracks (the ones you play when listening to Last.fm radio stations)
- Personalized radio (like Pandora and Slacker)
- General internet radio (like Live365 and other internet radio stations)

User tracks and Last.fm radio are scrobbled in a \'normal\' way, meaning that when you scrobble, you can see the tracks instantly on your Recently Played tracks on your Last.fm home page profile.

Personalized radio when scrobbled, don\'t show up instantly on the Recently Played tracks, they show up some hours later on the Detailed tracks view I think (don\'t remember exactly the place right now).

As for General Internet Radio scrobbling, I\'m not really sure where and when they appear, I guess the same as Personalized radio.

smc2911
2008-03-18, 12:49
As for General Internet Radio scrobbling, I\'m not really sure where and when they appear, I guess the same as Personalized radio.As I understand it, if an internet radio scrobbles correctly, a track will appear as "now playing" on the top of your last.fm page while playing, but then will disappear from your recently played list. It should, however, make its way into your charts.

fsoares
2008-03-18, 14:46
I have not been successful too!

I contacted them, see what I got:


"Hi,

We currently do not support this, but you can check out build.last.fm for
other third party plugins.

The Last.fm Customer Service and Support Team

fsoares2 <fsoares2@ip.pt> wrote:

> I run Last.fm SW in a Mac (10.4.11).
>
> It scrobbles what I play in iTunes, but not what I play from Squeezenetwork on
> my Squeezebox! (Scobbling IS enabled on the Squeezebox).
>
> How can I get to scrobble what I play in the Squeezebox?

smc2911
2008-03-18, 17:01
It's definitely not something the last.fm team could help you out with, more of a SqueezeNetwork question. andyg might have some ideas.

tamanaco
2008-03-19, 12:15
Has the last.fm functionality of the "New" Squeezenetwork changed recently? I'm asking because before the 17th everything seemed to be working fine with Live365. Today when I looked in my last.fm profile the last tracks listed in the Charts Tab/Recent Tracks are dated 03/17. I've been playing the same Live365 and Slacker stations for the past couple days, but the last.fm pages no longer get updated. Last week I could see what was playing in my SB3 via the "Now Playing" feature in the last.fm profile page, but today I can't seem to get this to work. The charts also listed all the recently played songs from a Live365 and Slacker stations. I noticed that in the botton right of the SN that the releases appear to have changed. As of 03/16/08 (sv) r2951/r17896 and today 03/19/08 (sv) r2979/r17921. Did something related to last.fm changed? I know that radio stations scrobbling is not supported, but what exactly are the last.fm functions that are supported/visible via the last.fm Web UI and via the SqueezeNetwork Web UI? .

Thanks...

andyg
2008-03-19, 12:23
On Mar 19, 2008, at 3:15 PM, tamanaco wrote:

>
> Has the last.fm functionality of the "New" Squeezenetwork changed
> recently? I'm asking because before the 17th everything seemed to be
> working fine with Live365. Today when I looked in my last.fm profile
> the last tracks listed in the Charts Tab/Recent Tracks are dated
> 03/17.
> I've been playing the same Live365 and Slacker stations for the past
> couple days, but the last.fm pages no longer get updated. Last week I
> could see what was playing in my SB3 via the "Now Playing" feature in
> the last.fm profile page, but today I can't seem to get this to work.
> The charts also listed all the recently played songs from a Live365
> and
> Slacker stations. I noticed that in the botton right of the SN that
> the
> releases appear to have changed. As of 03/16/08 (sv) r2951/r17896 and
> today 03/19/08 (sv) r2979/r17921. Did something related to last.fm
> changed? I know that radio stations scrobbling is not supported, but
> what exactly are the last.fm functions that are supported/visible via
> the last.fm Web UI and via the SqueezeNetwork Web UI? .

Scrobbling should still be working fine, even radio scrobbling.

tamanaco
2008-03-19, 12:30
On Mar 19, 2008, at 3:15 PM, tamanaco wrote:

>
> Has the last.fm functionality of the "New" Squeezenetwork changed
> recently? I'm asking because before the 17th everything seemed to be
> working fine with Live365. Today when I looked in my last.fm profile
> the last tracks listed in the Charts Tab/Recent Tracks are dated
> 03/17.
> I've been playing the same Live365 and Slacker stations for the past
> couple days, but the last.fm pages no longer get updated. Last week I
> could see what was playing in my SB3 via the "Now Playing" feature in
> the last.fm profile page, but today I can't seem to get this to work.
> The charts also listed all the recently played songs from a Live365
> and
> Slacker stations. I noticed that in the botton right of the SN that
> the
> releases appear to have changed. As of 03/16/08 (sv) r2951/r17896 and
> today 03/19/08 (sv) r2979/r17921. Did something related to last.fm
> changed? I know that radio stations scrobbling is not supported, but
> what exactly are the last.fm functions that are supported/visible via
> the last.fm Web UI and via the SqueezeNetwork Web UI? .

Scrobbling should still be working fine, even radio scrobbling.

Andy, the issues I'm talking about are using the SB3 connected directly to the SqueezeNetwork not SqueezeCenter. Are we in the same page?

Thanks

andyg
2008-03-19, 12:35
Yep, I'm scrobbling from SN right now while listening to an mp3 radio stream.

tamanaco
2008-03-19, 12:59
Yep, I'm scrobbling from SN right now while listening to an mp3 radio stream.

Hmmm, I'm listening to Live365 Soft Jazz FM. The file format is MP3 with a Bitrate 56kbps (VBR). I wait for a new song and until the Name and Artist of the track is displayed. I connect to the SquezeNetwork Web UI and see:
Soft Jazz FM
Neon Nights by Adrian Conington from Solsonata

I then go to the last.fm Web UI (My Profile Page/Chart Tab) Click Show: Recent Tracks... Every thing is from 03/17. There is no "Now Playing" to show me that the SB3 is connected.

I have entered my user ID in the last.fm tab of SN and under the Player setting tab for last.fm I have enable audioscrobbler with my user id. What Am I missing?

Thanks again...

Edit: One more thing... There is no way for me to "Love" the song either from the SB3 or the SN Web UI.

andyg
2008-03-19, 13:09
On Mar 19, 2008, at 3:59 PM, tamanaco wrote:

>
> andyg;281513 Wrote:
>> Yep, I'm scrobbling from SN right now while listening to an mp3 radio
>> stream.
>
> Hmmm, I'm listening to Live365 Soft Jazz FM. The file format is MP3
> with a Bitrate 56kbps (VBR). I wait for a new song and until the Name
> and Artist of the track is displayed. I connect to the SquezeNetwork
> Web UI and see:
> Soft Jazz FM
> Neon Nights by Adrian Conington from Solsonata
>
> I then go to the last.fm Web UI (My Profile Page/Chart Tab) Click
> Show:
> Recent Tracks... Every thing is from 03/17. There is no "Now
> Playing" to
> show me that the SB3 is connected.
>
> I have entered my user ID in the last.fm tab of SN and under the
> Player
> setting tab for last.fm I have enable audioscrobbler with my user id.
> What Am I missing?

I think you're looking in the wrong place, try the Overview tab, or http://www.last.fm/user/your_name

Radio tracks don't affect your charts so you won't see them there.

I think the main problem is that Last.fm's website doesn't have a good
way to view the different types of tracks we are scrobbling, such as
'recommendation' (Pandora) or 'radio'. Their website needs to include
some way to view that data.

tamanaco
2008-03-19, 13:19
On Mar 19, 2008, at 3:59 PM, tamanaco wrote:

>
> andyg;281513 Wrote:
>> Yep, I'm scrobbling from SN right now while listening to an mp3 radio
>> stream.
>
> Hmmm, I'm listening to Live365 Soft Jazz FM. The file format is MP3
> with a Bitrate 56kbps (VBR). I wait for a new song and until the Name
> and Artist of the track is displayed. I connect to the SquezeNetwork
> Web UI and see:
> Soft Jazz FM
> Neon Nights by Adrian Conington from Solsonata
>
> I then go to the last.fm Web UI (My Profile Page/Chart Tab) Click
> Show:
> Recent Tracks... Every thing is from 03/17. There is no "Now
> Playing" to
> show me that the SB3 is connected.
>
> I have entered my user ID in the last.fm tab of SN and under the
> Player
> setting tab for last.fm I have enable audioscrobbler with my user id.
> What Am I missing?

I think you're looking in the wrong place, try the Overview tab, or http://www.last.fm/user/your_name

Radio tracks don't affect your charts so you won't see them there.

I think the main problem is that Last.fm's website doesn't have a good
way to view the different types of tracks we are scrobbling, such as
'recommendation' (Pandora) or 'radio'. Their website needs to include
some way to view that data.

The Overview Tab "Most Recently Listened Track" shows me the last Tracks I listened when I connected to my SC Server a few days ago. Nothing related to SN stations that I have been listening to. Where do you see you SB as connected in last.fm?. Again, while listening to this Live365 station there is no way for me to Love these radio tracks. Let me bring up my server and see what happens when I connect via SC7.01.

andyg
2008-03-19, 13:25
On Mar 19, 2008, at 4:19 PM, tamanaco wrote:

>
> Andy Grundman;281529 Wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 2008, at 3:59 PM, tamanaco wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> andyg;281513 Wrote:
>>>> Yep, I'm scrobbling from SN right now while listening to an mp3
>> radio
>>>> stream.
>>>
>>> Hmmm, I'm listening to Live365 Soft Jazz FM. The file format is MP3
>>> with a Bitrate 56kbps (VBR). I wait for a new song and until the
>> Name
>>> and Artist of the track is displayed. I connect to the SquezeNetwork
>>> Web UI and see:
>>> Soft Jazz FM
>>> Neon Nights by Adrian Conington from Solsonata
>>>
>>> I then go to the last.fm Web UI (My Profile Page/Chart Tab) Click
>>> Show:
>>> Recent Tracks... Every thing is from 03/17. There is no "Now
>>> Playing" to
>>> show me that the SB3 is connected.
>>>
>>> I have entered my user ID in the last.fm tab of SN and under the
>>> Player
>>> setting tab for last.fm I have enable audioscrobbler with my user
>> id.
>>> What Am I missing?
>>
>> I think you're looking in the wrong place, try the Overview tab, or
>> http://www.last.fm/user/your_name
>>
>> Radio tracks don't affect your charts so you won't see them there.
>>
>> I think the main problem is that Last.fm's website doesn't have a
>> good
>>
>> way to view the different types of tracks we are scrobbling, such as
>> 'recommendation' (Pandora) or 'radio'. Their website needs to
>> include
>>
>> some way to view that data.
>
> The Overview Tab "Most Recently Listened Track" shows me the last
> Tracks I listened when I connected to my SC Server a few days ago.
> Nothing related to SN stations that I have been listening to. Where do
> you see you SB as connected in last.fm?. Again, while listening to
> this
> Live365 station there is no way for me to Love these radio tracks. Let
> me bring up my server and see what happens when I connect via SC7.01.

For radio tracks the only thing you'll ever see is the light gray "Now
Playing" item, so wait until a track change and then see if it shows up.

"Love this track" is not yet supported.

tamanaco
2008-03-19, 13:48
I think the problem is with Live365 I could not get last.fm to show me anything about the tracks I listened to via Live365. Are you able to see scrobbled tracks and "Now Playing" with Live365 stations? I switched to Slacker and it works. I can give a "Slacker's" thumbs up/down via the SN Web UI and SB3 to the Slaker's tracks. I guess my questions is... should I expect SN to Scrobble "all" Radio stations "with MP3 streams" via the SB3->SN regarless of Internet Radio Station/Service I select? Also, how soon will we see last.fm browsing and track loving via the SN network?

andyg
2008-03-19, 14:01
All you will see is Now Playing. This is an issue on the Last.fm side... I have no idea what they are doing in their database for tracks marked as radio.

SN/SC will scrobble radio stations with metadata that matches "artist - title" format, as well as Live365 (which also sometimes includes album info). Tracks that don't match that format don't get scrobbled.

tamanaco
2008-03-19, 14:14
All you will see is Now Playing. This is an issue on the Last.fm side... I have no idea what they are doing in their database for tracks marked as radio.

SN/SC will scrobble radio stations with metadata that matches "artist - title" format, as well as Live365 (which also sometimes includes album info). Tracks that don't match that format don't get scrobbled.

Funny... you have no idea of what their doing with their db and I have no idea of what they're trying to do with their Web UI. Is all over the place. Thanks Andy... I'll try to keep an eye on the format of the tracks that I'm playing.

NFLnut
2009-03-20, 11:26
I'm aware of the irregularities of Live365 and Last.fm .. some stations scrobble correctly, and others don't.

But I'd love to have my custom Slacker station scrobble to Last.fm, but it isn't working.

paulisded
2009-04-16, 12:45
I'm aware of the irregularities of Live365 and Last.fm .. some stations scrobble correctly, and others don't.

But I'd love to have my custom Slacker station scrobble to Last.fm, but it isn't working.

My custom Slacker stations scrobble fine.