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jmsent
2008-03-09, 10:10
Just installed 7.0 on my Mac G4 750 /384 with external WD 500GB firewire drive. 6.5.4 with this setup worked perfectly. With 7.0,my SB3 now responds extremely slowly to commands until I can finally select an album from the playlist menu and hit play. Once that album starts to play, then the response time returns to normal until the album finishes. Then the problem starts all over. I've reinstalled the program, rebooted both the computer and the SB 3, updated the firmware, rescanned the music library, and made sure that the paths to the music folders are correct, but to no avail. I've even started playback in itunes just to make sure that the external hard drive was not in sleep mode. Still the same problem. This just sucks. I want to go back to 6.5, but I can't figure out how to do that. Help!

GRC
2008-03-09, 12:02
I'm with you on this one. I installed SC7 and all seemed fine - for about 60 minutes. Then the web interface ground to a halt. Responses from the remote still OK. I'm running the default skin through IE7.0.5730.11 on Windows XP Pro SP2 with an AMD XP 2800+ 2.09GHz processor, 1GB RAM and 40GB iTunes music library on an 80GB C drive. There is only 3GB free space on the drive if that's significant.

A couple of informal observations:-

I just selected "Albums" to list from the libray and it took 84 seconds to load to the "Done" point where the browser pane responds to a scroll message. No music playing at the time. It is generally very sluggish - to the point of being unuseable when music is played.

Going to "Classic" skin seems to speed things up a bit - album art seems to take forever to download.

Running Firefox instead of IE7 seems a bit faster.

I had no performance problems with SC6.5.4.

Here's my SC Status page:-

Library statisticsTotal Tracks: 6,894
Total Albums: 964
Total Artists: 680
Total Genres: 79
Total Playing Time: 523:02:47

Music Scan DetailsPlaylist Scan(1 of 1) Complete 00:00:47
iTunes Import (6923 of 6923) Complete 00:01:35
iTunes Playlist Import (34 of 34) Complete 00:00:11
Merge Various Artists (934 of 934) Complete 00:00:16
Artwork Scan (7 of 7) Complete 00:00:09
Database Cleanup #1 (6894 of 6894) Complete 00:00:11
Database Cleanup #2 ( of ) Complete 00:00:16
Database Optimize ( of ) Complete 00:00:13
SqueezeCenter has finished scanning your music collection.00:03:38

SqueezeCenter Information SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 17793 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252
Server IP address: 192.168.1.100
Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt

Platform Architecture: 586

Hostname: <deleted for this post>

Server Port Number: 9000

Total Players Recognized: 1

Cache Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\SqueezeCenter\Cache

Plugin Folders: C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\Slim\Plugin, C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\Plugins

Player InformationName: GRC's SqueezeBox

Model: Squeezebox v3

Firmware: 86

The IP address for this player is: 192.168.1.101:34809

The ethernet MAC address for this player is: 00:04:20:12:59:4b

Wireless Signal Strength: 71


SqueezeCenter Log C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\SqueezeCenter\Logs\server.log

Scanner Log C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\SqueezeCenter\Logs\scanner.log

y360
2008-03-09, 12:54
I experienced the same extreme slowness after I upgraded to SC7. The SB3 barely flipped through the menus.
I rebooted the machine on which SC7 was installed and all became fine. I have no idea why.

wonder boy
2008-03-09, 12:54
Just installed 7.0 on my Mac G4 750 /384 with external WD 500GB firewire drive. 6.5.4 with this setup worked perfectly. With 7.0,my SB3 now responds extremely slowly to commands until I can finally select an album from the playlist menu and hit play. Once that album starts to play, then the response time returns to normal until the album finishes. Then the problem starts all over. I've reinstalled the program, rebooted both the computer and the SB 3, updated the firmware, rescanned the music library, and made sure that the paths to the music folders are correct, but to no avail. I've even started playback in itunes just to make sure that the external hard drive was not in sleep mode. Still the same problem. This just sucks. I want to go back to 6.5, but I can't figure out how to do that. Help!


Just installed a newly purchased SB3 and am having very similar problem. Connects fine through setup but little or no response through remote, unless like you I manage to select a track then things speed up. If however I select a track through squeezecenter menu response is fast straight away. Have emailed tech support, just paid 180 for something that's so clunky it's unusable at the mo.

wonder boy
2008-03-09, 13:47
BINGO!!!

Found a version of slim server 6.5.4, uninstalled all traces of squeezecentre, installed the above and I am away, smooth fast response...get in there!! All router wireless/security settings as before.

GRC
2008-03-09, 14:03
BINGO!!!

Found a version of slim server 6.5.4, uninstalled all traces of squeezecentre, installed the above and I am away, smooth fast response...get in there!! All router wireless/security settings as before.

Where - let me at it . . . !

snarlydwarf
2008-03-09, 14:13
Where - let me at it . . . !

http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/

pablolie
2008-03-09, 18:58
in fact i just had to restart the computer because SC7.0 had become no responsive, unable to connect or let the SB3 (2 of them) connect to it. everything was fine on the compter and every other device - the only change had been the upgrade to SC7.0, and the only problem was the SB and SC inability to play music...

and i agree 7.0 seems much slower than the previous version. as it often goes with software, for now i do regret the upgrade...

y360
2008-03-10, 00:30
This is just a speculation on my part, but based on the descriptions above, perhaps the culprit is mysql ?

It has a slow query log that can be enabled by using the --log-slow-queries option

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/slow-query-log.html

Maybe someone with a performance problem could turn this log on & report any findings.

mherger
2008-03-10, 00:38
> responds extremely slowly to commands until I can finally select an

Is this in the player interface or web interface? Do you see high CPU load on your SC server machine or (if in the web) on the machine running the web interface?

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Michael

jbhuffer
2008-03-10, 09:46
I've got the same problem here. The SB3 player interface is too slow to even use and will sometimes freeze. I then have to unplug and replug the SB3.

However when the player is actually playing something its totally fine, its only when its gone idle/screensaving that it slows.

The web interface for SC7 is very quick and snappy. No problems there. It a fresh install on a new headless server I just built. Windows XP OS. I'm running SC7 as a Service, not as an app.

I thought it may be some plugins that I recently added that were screwing with it so I've tried uninstalling most of them. No change in response.

I hope I can get this one figured out, I really like the new SC7!

jmsent
2008-03-10, 09:56
> responds extremely slowly to commands until I can finally select an

Is this in the player interface or web interface? Do you see high CPU load on your SC server machine or (if in the web) on the machine running the web interface?

--

Michael

The problem was definitely in the player interface with SC7. It started after I paused a song very close to the end of the track. From there on the whole thing slowed to a crawl. The SqueezeCenter web interface still functioned well, and I was able to control the player from my computer with no problem. I finally solved the problem by doing a full, clean, reinstallation of SC7. Simply reinstalling it without dumping all the old files didn't fix the problem. To do this I had to trash the SC7 prefPane in the OSX Library folder. I also had to dump all vestiges of any older Slimserver files, including install logs. I then went into the system folder and dumped some items that appeared associated with either SC7 or Slimserver 6.x.
There seemed to be associated files in the Cache, Syndication, Preference, and Safari folders, all of which I dumped. After doing this and reinstalling SC7, I was able to get back to the sign in page for SC7 and start from scratch. Now everything works again. Is there any documentation available the tells how to do a complete uninstall for MacOSX?

lanierb
2008-03-10, 10:12
Just to state the obvious (since noone else has), there are a lot of us out here for whom squeezecenter is working perfectly (just as quickly as slimserver). I don't know what's wrong with your setups, but it seems like it must be fixable. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is that anti-virus software might be causing file access slowness.

jmsent
2008-03-10, 11:40
Just to state the obvious (since noone else has), there are a lot of us out here for whom squeezecenter is working perfectly (just as quickly as slimserver). I don't know what's wrong with your setups, but it seems like it must be fixable. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is that anti-virus software might be causing file access slowness.

Well, it was working perfectly for me too when I first installed it, and then I ran into trouble. My reason for working so hard to fix it was my assumption that if it worked properly before, it should do so again. Clearly, I understand that this may be an isolated problem, and now that I've fixed it, it may never happen again. We'll see.

mherger
2008-03-10, 13:49
> I've got the same problem here. The SB3 player interface is too slow to
> even use and will sometimes freeze. I then have to unplug and replug
> the SB3.

We've recently found a bug where similar behaviour could be caused if your
player doesn't have a name. Go to Settings->Players and make sure you give
your player some name. Just don't leave the field blank.

The issue should be fixed in 7.0.1.

Michael

jbhuffer
2008-03-10, 14:54
> I've got the same problem here. The SB3 player interface is too slow to
> even use and will sometimes freeze. I then have to unplug and replug
> the SB3.

We've recently found a bug where similar behaviour could be caused if your
player doesn't have a name. Go to Settings->Players and make sure you give
your player some name. Just don't leave the field blank.

The issue should be fixed in 7.0.1.

Michael

Thank you! That fixed the problem. Everything seems to be quick and smooth now.

wonder boy
2008-03-11, 05:37
How bizarre...squeezecenter would not work on my new sb3, so as I posted earlier was happy when ss 6.5.4 worked fine. Not content with using old software I named my squeezebox (squeezey if you must know!) and installed sc over ss...woking like a dream wahey!!!

Clio
2008-03-15, 08:05
For what it's worth, I too had trouble with SqueezeCenter running SLOWLY. I dl-d and installed twice yesterday and finally went back to SlimServer 6.54 which works fine. [I've never posted here so I don't know exactly what technical information is useful, so I'll just list the basics on my setup] I am using a VelocityMicro PCX with dual 2.4ghz processors, 2gb of RAM., XP Professional, and Firefox. I have around 5,000 cds, the majority of which are in FLAC, spread out over (5) Harddrives (4 internal [3-Seagate, 1-Western Digital] and (1) external [Western Digital, USB]) with a total of 2.6tb of storage space. I've read that some people are having trouble with the initial library scan. That wasn't a problem for me, the scan seemed to take roughly the same as it used to using 6.54. Subsequent scans, however, were slow and they didn't seem to be going anywhere. But the biggest problem for me was that Squeezecenter was so slow loading. As I said, I downloaded and installed twice, but I also rebooted a couple of extra times to see if that would help. Each time I did, SqueezeCenter took a long time--much longer than SlimServer--to start. This isn't a huge problem, but it was annoying enough for me to switch back to 6.54. I didn't notice any problems with my SB3, but I didn't mess around with it too much. So, for now I am sticking with 6.54 and waiting for the bugs to be fixed. I really liked the look of SqueezeCenter and I look forward to trying it again in the future...