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Todd Fields
2004-02-12, 11:43
How did they get the album art thumbnail on this
thing?

http://www.cesweb.org/shared_files/innovations/innovations_2004/2192/mainphoto2192.jpg

Could that actually be done on a Squeezebox if the
display were large enough?

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kdf
2004-02-12, 11:52
Quoting Todd Fields <jtfields91 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>:

>
> How did they get the album art thumbnail on this
> thing?
>
>
http://www.cesweb.org/shared_files/innovations/innovations_2004/2192/mainphoto2192.jpg
>
> Could that actually be done on a Squeezebox if the
> display were large enough?
>
has to be faked either internally by the their hardware or by photoshop. In
fact, much of what's on that display would also fit in that category.

Slimserver currently handles jpg or gif artwork, plus the odd png that might be
embedded in the id3. These have far to much colour depth to simply display on a
monochrome VFD, let alone a character VFD module

-kdf

Jason Snell
2004-02-12, 11:54
>How did they get the album art thumbnail on this
>thing?
>
>http://www.cesweb.org/shared_files/innovations/innovations_2004/2192/mainphoto2192.jpg
>

They have definitely modified the Slim Server and/or have clever
software in the player to do stuff like that. Also, of course, it's a
dot-matrix display, which the Squeezebox is not, so it's capable of
doing stuff like that.

I wonder how well it does at rendering most album covers. So's cover
is a high-contrast black-and-white image... :-)

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Dan Sully
2004-02-12, 11:57
* Jason Snell <jsnell (AT) macworld (DOT) com> shaped the electrons to say...

>I wonder how well it does at rendering most album covers. So's cover
>is a high-contrast black-and-white image... :-)

Which means it probably doesn't work very well for everything else.

BTW Roku was founded by the same guy that did ReplayTV. The very closed,
Windows based PVR "platform". You can expect the same amount out of Roku I'd imagine.

-D
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kdf
2004-02-12, 12:17
Quoting Dan Sully <daniel (AT) electricrain (DOT) com>:

> * Jason Snell <jsnell (AT) macworld (DOT) com> shaped the electrons to say...
>
> >I wonder how well it does at rendering most album covers. So's cover
> >is a high-contrast black-and-white image... :-)
>
> Which means it probably doesn't work very well for everything else.
>
> BTW Roku was founded by the same guy that did ReplayTV. The very closed,
> Windows based PVR "platform". You can expect the same amount out of Roku I'd
> imagine.

what I dont understand is how they claim it uses SlimServer, then in their FAQ
says their product wont support Linux. I'm beginning to wonder how customised
the software is. Perhaps they've just used the protocol and nothing else.
Perhaps enough to let them close the software. Until this thing is no longer
vapourware, speculation runs wild :)

-kdf

Craig Brannan
2004-02-12, 13:53
Not sure if this is possible with OSX - but perhaps they are creating a
binary distribution for OSX similar to what Slim do for Windows.

They could basically just be supporting these two platforms with
binaries, and not getting involved with distributing any perl code.

Craig.


On Feb 12, 2004, at 2:17 PM, kdf wrote:

> Quoting Dan Sully <daniel (AT) electricrain (DOT) com>:
>
>> * Jason Snell <jsnell (AT) macworld (DOT) com> shaped the electrons to say...
>>
>>> I wonder how well it does at rendering most album covers. So's cover
>>> is a high-contrast black-and-white image... :-)
>>
>> Which means it probably doesn't work very well for everything else.
>>
>> BTW Roku was founded by the same guy that did ReplayTV. The very
>> closed,
>> Windows based PVR "platform". You can expect the same amount out of
>> Roku I'd
>> imagine.
>
> what I dont understand is how they claim it uses SlimServer, then in
> their FAQ
> says their product wont support Linux. I'm beginning to wonder how
> customised
> the software is. Perhaps they've just used the protocol and nothing
> else.
> Perhaps enough to let them close the software. Until this thing is no
> longer
> vapourware, speculation runs wild :)
>
> -kdf
>

Steve Taylor
2004-02-12, 14:21
There's a video on new.com.com.com.com.com and the Roku guy does a brief
demo. He also mentions how they've 'put a lot of work into making it easy to
use' but it's quite clearly a slimserver UI on the device, just with a wider
dot matrix style display.

http://news.com.com/2030-2-5073373.html?tag=bb.gb.more

Steve.

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> Quoting Todd Fields <jtfields91 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>:
>
> >
> > How did they get the album art thumbnail on this
> > thing?
> >
> >
>
http://www.cesweb.org/shared_files/innovations/innovations_2004/2192/mainphoto2192.jpg
> >
> > Could that actually be done on a Squeezebox if the
> > display were large enough?
> >
> has to be faked either internally by the their hardware or by photoshop.
In
> fact, much of what's on that display would also fit in that category.
>
> Slimserver currently handles jpg or gif artwork, plus the odd png that
might be
> embedded in the id3. These have far to much colour depth to simply
display on a
> monochrome VFD, let alone a character VFD module
>
> -kdf
>

Carsten Bormann
2004-02-12, 16:45
> it's a dot-matrix display, which the Squeezebox is not,

That, by the way, is the one and only thing that disappointed me about
the Squeezebox.
I don't blame anyone, there probably were good reasons for this
engineering decision, I'm just a bit disappointed about this.
(I remember the transition from DRCS terminals to fully bit-mapped ones
well enough that I had hoped never having to cope with DRCS again...)

Gruesse, Carsten

kdf
2004-02-12, 17:03
Quoting Carsten Bormann <cabo (AT) tzi (DOT) org>:

> > it's a dot-matrix display, which the Squeezebox is not,
>
> That, by the way, is the one and only thing that disappointed me about
> the Squeezebox.
> I don't blame anyone, there probably were good reasons for this
> engineering decision, I'm just a bit disappointed about this.
> (I remember the transition from DRCS terminals to fully bit-mapped ones
> well enough that I had hoped never having to cope with DRCS again...)

the current VFD's are from Noritake. While they do have drop-in replacements
that are dot matrix, they are apparently much slower than the character modules
when it comes to things scrolling text.

-kdf