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David Cullen
2004-02-11, 06:50
RE: [slim] Newbie questionsVery interesting Tom. Couple of questions.

Did you convert straight from the EAC wav files to mp3 or did you convert
the FLAC files?

Also did you need a plug-in to get EAC to encode to FLAC? Or is it similar
to the LAME encoder which (as John said and I found out) can be set up
easily from within EAC.

Just done a trial album via EAC/LAME at 320kbps mp3. Interestingly the sound
and file size is pretty comprable to the 320kbps version that I ripped
yesterday using Freerip - but the process via EAC took much longer.

So next up is to trial FLAC! Might have to leave that til tomorrow as I
really ought to do some work!
-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com]On Behalf Of Thomas B.
Malsbury
Sent: 11 February 2004 13:11
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Newbie questions


I let EAC tag the files from freedb with artist, album, track, genre,
date. Then I used Abander Tag & Control to fill in any missing info and grab
the album covers. It pulls its info from allmusic.com. Abander Tag &
Control is not free, but has a fully functional demo period in which I was
able to complete my tagging.

All told the tagged FLAC files for 799 albums are about 210GB. I went for
the new Iomega HDD250. I liked that it has both USB2.0 and Firewire. It
also is self cooling which I though was a nice feature. After the rebate
Iomega was offering it was about $250, which was a little pricey for my
budget, but in the end I thought it was worth it. Now, I just have to start
saving for my Squeezebox again.

I just completed re-ripping my entire collection of CDs to FLAC using EAC.
It worked very well, all be it a little slow and tedious. I decided to use
FLAC mostly for future versatility rather then sound quality. I just never
wanted to have to re-rip and tag almost 800 cds again. My final solution
was to rip with EAC to get a quality extraction to FLAC with no loss. I
moved these to an external hard drive and then used dbPowerAmp to batch
convert them all to 256kps LAME MP3s on my SlimServer. I then unplugged the
external hard drive and put it in my fire-safe box for safe keeping.

I now have quality and use of 256kps LAME MP3s on my server, and the
lossless FLAC files stashed away to be converted to whatever codec might
come along in the future or to replace the MP3s if something horrible
happens to my server.

If you have any questions on any of the specific settings or tools
that I used, feel free to ask.

Tom

Thomas B. Malsbury
2004-02-11, 07:10
RE: [slim] Newbie questionsI used EAC directly to FLAC. It is identical to setting up LAME. You just select "Other Codec" in the settings and point to where the FLAC.exe file is located.

You can get the codec at http://flac.sourceforge.net/ plus links to other software that supports FLAC.

Settings for using alternative codecs in EAC can be found at http://www.saunalahti.fi/cse/EAC/.

EAC doesn't make the files any more compact, its true benefit is it error detection and correction. The reason it is slower then other encoders is that it reads the same data in several passes and compares it until it get a consistent result.

If you are also interested, the program I used to batch convert FLAC to LAME, dbPowerAmp, can also rip from CD to FLAC. It worked well in a few trials that I did. If you are not willing to wait for EAC I think it is a good substitute. Even with its AccurateRip feature turned on , which I would recommend, it was about twice as fast as EAC.

Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: David Cullen
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:50 AM
Subject: [slim] Newbie questions


Very interesting Tom. Couple of questions.

Did you convert straight from the EAC wav files to mp3 or did you convert the FLAC files?

Also did you need a plug-in to get EAC to encode to FLAC? Or is it similar to the LAME encoder which (as John said and I found out) can be set up easily from within EAC.

Just done a trial album via EAC/LAME at 320kbps mp3. Interestingly the sound and file size is pretty comprable to the 320kbps version that I ripped yesterday using Freerip - but the process via EAC took much longer.

So next up is to trial FLAC! Might have to leave that til tomorrow as I really ought to do some work!
-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com]On Behalf Of Thomas B. Malsbury
Sent: 11 February 2004 13:11
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Newbie questions


I let EAC tag the files from freedb with artist, album, track, genre, date. Then I used Abander Tag & Control to fill in any missing info and grab the album covers. It pulls its info from allmusic.com. Abander Tag & Control is not free, but has a fully functional demo period in which I was able to complete my tagging.

All told the tagged FLAC files for 799 albums are about 210GB. I went for the new Iomega HDD250. I liked that it has both USB2.0 and Firewire. It also is self cooling which I though was a nice feature. After the rebate Iomega was offering it was about $250, which was a little pricey for my budget, but in the end I thought it was worth it. Now, I just have to start saving for my Squeezebox again.

I just completed re-ripping my entire collection of CDs to FLAC using EAC. It worked very well, all be it a little slow and tedious. I decided to use FLAC mostly for future versatility rather then sound quality. I just never wanted to have to re-rip and tag almost 800 cds again. My final solution was to rip with EAC to get a quality extraction to FLAC with no loss. I moved these to an external hard drive and then used dbPowerAmp to batch convert them all to 256kps LAME MP3s on my SlimServer. I then unplugged the external hard drive and put it in my fire-safe box for safe keeping.

I now have quality and use of 256kps LAME MP3s on my server, and the lossless FLAC files stashed away to be converted to whatever codec might come along in the future or to replace the MP3s if something horrible happens to my server.

If you have any questions on any of the specific settings or tools that I used, feel free to ask.

Tom


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