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JOHN MOYLAN
2004-02-11, 05:30
>> If I decide to go for EAC with lame.exe from what I've read I would need
to copy the lame.dll into the same folder as the eac folder...? >> Correct?!

All I did was download the lame.exe and told EAC the path to it in the
options, the wizard ask this on setup.
Worked for me.

I too am interested in EAC->FLAC but know little of it

-----Original Message-----
From: David Cullen [mailto:slimp3 (AT) another-perspective (DOT) net]
Sent: 11 February 2004 11:59
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Newbie questions


Thanks for the info and links John which I've taken a look at.

I think the best thing to do some tests between to see which format is the
best balance of size and quality - at least for me and my religous
persuasions kdf ;-)

If I decide to go for EAC with lame.exe from what I've read I would need to
copy the lame.dll into the same folder as the eac folder...? Correct?!

What are people's thoughts on using EAC with FLAC? I see Mareo works to
automatically integrate the two? Any experience on using this?

Apologies for this getting off slim focused questions and on to more general
format ones. If I'm better posting these elsewhere please advise.

TIA

David



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com]On Behalf Of JOHN MOYLAN
Sent: 11 February 2004 10:32
To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
Subject: [slim] Newbie questions



Hello David.

>>er...I'm not going to get into those aspects.
Just to throw water on burning oil...
If you do go for mp3 be sure to use LAME for encoding.
http://lame.sourceforge.net/ <http://lame.sourceforge.net/>

For Windows use EAC (Exact Audio Copy) with lame.exe (FREE)
For Linux use GRIP (FREE)
For Mac use the iTunes Lame applescript 'thing' (blacktree.com I think)
(FREE) or Audion (has Lame built in...NOT FREE)

I'm in the same boat as you at the moment as I haven't started yet...to FLAC
or not to FLAC
john


-----Original Message-----
From: David Cullen [ mailto:slimp3 (AT) another-perspective (DOT) net
<mailto:slimp3 (AT) another-perspective (DOT) net> ]
Sent: 11 February 2004 10:20
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Newbie questions


>er...I'm not going to get into those aspects.

LOL!! I understand ;-)

Thanks for the tips. Having tested 192kbps MP3 I could notice a discernable
loss of clarity via my hifi. At 320kbps it was virtually negligble. Will do
some tests with other formats too.

Thanks again
David

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<mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com> ]On Behalf Of kdf
Sent: 11 February 2004 09:25
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Newbie questions


Quoting David Cullen <slimp3 (AT) another-perspective (DOT) net>:

> thanks kdf.
>
> sorry to be so green but if ogg gets converted to 320kbps MP3 before being

> sent to the slimp3 player what is the advantage of ripping and storing in

> .ogg format rather than 320kbps MP3?
it is converted on the fly, and only to mp3 for slimp3 players. Squeezebox
will
play back from a raw PCM stream. the format benefits for storage depend on
preference, and what other players you might use, and perhaps to some extent

religious beliefs ;).

> Does the file size end up smaller for the same quality?
> Or some other reason?

er...I'm not going to get into those aspects. Everyone has a preference, so

slimserver supports as many input formats as code can be created to handle.

> Very pleased with my slimp3 - just trying to work out the best format to
rip
> all my cds and lps to before I do too many. As I have about 700 lps and
cds
> it could be a long process so want to get it right!

It all depends on what you have for storage, and what you require for
listening
quality. mp3, ogg etc are lossy codecs, so you DO lose some of the
information
that makes up your recording. There are lossless codecs like FLAC and
Shorten
which preserve every bit of your audio files, but they take up a lot more
space.
mp3's done at 128 kbps are about 10:1 compression, while FLAC seems to be
between 2:1 and 3:1. Your results may vary. Personally, I dont find that
128kbps mp3's are good enough, so my collection is ripped at 192kpbs
Variable
bit rate. Having a bit more storage now, than I did then, I'm planning to
rerip
my cd's to FLAC so that they have the best immunity to obsolescence of
codecs
and future designs. I still need mp3's since my portable player only plays
mp3.

-kdf