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Eric Turkheimer
2004-02-05, 11:38
Hi, I posted a while ago about my inability to play shorten files directly
through slimserver under XP, and didn't hear much back. Since then I have
been in touch with the slim devices people, and they can't get it to work
either.

So far, I have downloaded shortn32.exe into my path, but trying to play a
shorten file in my music directory still does nothing. It flashes for a
second and returns to "stopped."

One person did say he had it working. Please tell me exactly how you did
it!

Thanks,
Eric

Eric Turkheimer, PhD
Department of Psychology
University of Virginia
PO Box 400400
Charlottesville, VA 22904-4400

434-982-4732
434-982-4766 (FAX)

Caleb Epstein
2004-02-05, 12:03
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 01:38:24PM -0500, Eric Turkheimer wrote:

> Hi, I posted a while ago about my inability to play shorten files directly
> through slimserver under XP, and didn't hear much back. Since then I have
> been in touch with the slim devices people, and they can't get it to work
> either.
>
> So far, I have downloaded shortn32.exe into my path, but trying to play a
> shorten file in my music directory still does nothing. It flashes for a
> second and returns to "stopped."

I think you need shorten.exe, not shortn32.exe (at least that
is what is being used in convert.conf). You should be able to
grab a copy from http://etree.org/shnutils/shorten/


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kdf
2004-02-05, 12:07
Quoting Eric Turkheimer <ent3c (AT) virginia (DOT) edu>:

> Hi, I posted a while ago about my inability to play shorten files directly
> through slimserver under XP, and didn't hear much back. Since then I have
> been in touch with the slim devices people, and they can't get it to work
> either.
>
> So far, I have downloaded shortn32.exe into my path, but trying to play a
> shorten file in my music directory still does nothing. It flashes for a
> second and returns to "stopped."
>
> One person did say he had it working. Please tell me exactly how you did
> it!

I believe the server looks for "shorten.exe" so you need to find that version
for starters. I tried this at one point myself, and I seem to recall that
shorn32.exe reports some command line error (after renaming it shorten.exe so
that server could find it).

http://etree.org/shnutils/shorten/binary/windows/shorten-3.5.1.zip

This one uses cygwin, so it includes a runtime DLL to make it work.

I also had to create the shorten files fram scratch, using EAC with settings to
create shorten files instead of MP3. creating them from random WAV files had
varying results. Typical failure mode being that d_source reports the song
duration as being zero, so it skips the song.

-kdf

kdf
2004-02-05, 12:23
Quoting kdf <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com>:

> Quoting Eric Turkheimer <ent3c (AT) virginia (DOT) edu>:
>
> > Hi, I posted a while ago about my inability to play shorten files directly
> > through slimserver under XP, and didn't hear much back. Since then I have
> > been in touch with the slim devices people, and they can't get it to work
> > either.
> >
> > So far, I have downloaded shortn32.exe into my path, but trying to play a
> > shorten file in my music directory still does nothing. It flashes for a
> > second and returns to "stopped."
> >
> > One person did say he had it working. Please tell me exactly how you did
> > it!

another problem, the module that grabs the info for the SHN files, dumps some
data to /dev/null. This does not exist in windows, thus could be the reason why
it doesn't work.

-kdf

tfish77
2005-10-11, 07:16
I was having the exact same problem (click on the "play" or song link, and it immediately stops) with both FLAC and shorten. I got FLAC working, but I have been unable to get SHN files working. I've tried both renaming Shortn32.exe to "shorten.exe" & copying that file and Shrtn32.dll to my slimserver/bin/windows... path, and I've tried the same with the cygwin 3.6.0 version of shorten (as well as copying in the cygwin1.dll file), as instructed here:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?Shorten

Both methods have yielded nothing for me. Can this be done?

And which checkboxes should I have checked in my server settings under File Types? If I check SHN/wav, SHN/flac, and SHN/mp3, will it conver to all 3 and let my client player (iTunes in this case) decide? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

tasty
2005-12-28, 18:10
i'm on the same boat, tried a million executable + config combinations, and phone support essentially hung up on me. i have yet to get shn support to work at all. i vote for removing the wiki and conf entries until there is at least basic support for shorten -- "Shorten support is available for the Windows version of slimserver" is misleading. this was a selling point for me.

tfish77
2006-02-23, 18:10
i'm on the same boat, tried a million executable + config combinations . . . i vote for removing the wiki and conf entries until there is at least basic support for shorten -- "Shorten support is available for the Windows version of slimserver" is misleading. this was a selling point for me.

Yeah, I'm also in the same leaky boat. I love the living crap out of my SB3, but damn I wish it could play SHN. It's bad enough that the music library scan finds the SHN files then won't play them - what a tease!

Slimdevices...Please help!

Dan Sully
2006-02-23, 18:21
* tfish77 shaped the electrons to say...

>> i'm on the same boat, tried a million executable + config combinations .
>> . . i vote for removing the wiki and conf entries until there is at
>> least basic support for shorten -- "Shorten support is available for
>> the Windows version of slimserver" is misleading. this was a selling
>> point for me.
>
>Yeah, I'm also in the same leaky boat. I love the living crap out of
>my SB3, but damn I wish it could play SHN. It's bad enough that the
>music library scan finds the SHN files then won't play them - what a
>tease!

The Shorten format doesn't allow us to stream the music on Windows. Because
it's closed source, we can't fix this. I believe I've removed the references
to it working on Windows.

The best I can suggest is to use Foobar2000 to convert the files to FLAC.

You'll then have fantastic metadata support available then.

-D
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