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Rick B.
2008-01-09, 06:46
I'm a regular vistor to this forum and I seem to have lost my way with all of the recent developments. Can someone lay out where we are now compared to, say, 6 months ago?

What I mean is I'm trying to understand how the new developments relate to each other. I followed the Jive developements - then Duet was announced, which I thought was a new name for Jive - but maybe it isn't?

I also see terms like SC, slimsqueezer, slim center, etc. and I'm confused. I'm guessing others might be, too. Thanks.

radish
2008-01-09, 07:00
SqueezeCenter (SC) is the new name for SlimServer (SS) from version 7.0 onwards.

Sqeezebox Controller is the new remote control based on the Jive software platform which has been in discussion for some time.

Squeezebox Receiver is the new screen-less Squeezebox.

Duet is a bundle package including one Controller and one Receiver.

Skunk
2008-01-09, 07:14
You'll also see SBC (Squeezebox Controller) and SBR (Squeezebox Receiver) used here and there.

Maybe the Jive forum should be renamed the Controller or Duet forum to avoid some confusion.

SuperQ
2008-01-09, 07:57
You'll also see SBC (Squeezebox Controller) and SBR (Squeezebox Receiver) used here and there.

Maybe the Jive forum should be renamed the Controller or Duet forum to avoid some confusion.

I wouldn't rename the forum, as it is a development forum for the Jive software. I'd like to keep it free of the random support requests.

Rick B.
2008-01-09, 08:01
Thanks for the replies - very helpful.

One question - Is there a separate "Jive Remote" under development that is still forthcoming or is it in fact already here as the "Squeezebox Controller"?

kdf
2008-01-09, 08:30
On 9-Jan-08, at 7:01 AM, Rick B. wrote:

>
> Thanks for the replies - very helpful.
>
> One question - Is there a separate "Jive Remote" under development
> that
> is still forthcoming or is it in fact already here as the "Squeezebox
> Controller"?

The "jive remote" is the controller. It's the same one that's been
talked about in the forum for some time, but it is likely not the only
controller in the roadmap.
Those of us on the outside can only guess on hardware.

-kdf

dean
2008-01-09, 08:41
On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:57 AM, SuperQ wrote:

>
> Skunk;256403 Wrote:
>> You'll also see SBC (Squeezebox Controller) and SBR (Squeezebox
>> Receiver) used here and there.
>>
>> Maybe the Jive forum should be renamed the Controller or Duet
>> forum to
>> avoid some confusion.
>
> I wouldn't rename the forum, as it is a development forum for the Jive
> software. I'd like to keep it free of the random support requests.
To further confuse things, we'll be renaming the Jive software to
"SqueezeOS" soon (I mentioned this in another post...)

So the new product names are:

SqueezeCenter 7 (aka SC7, formerly SlimServer)

SqueezeNetwork (aka SN)

Squeezebox Controller (aka SBC, formerly Jive Remote)

Squeezebox Receiver (aka SBR, formerly Ray)

SqueezeNetwork (aka SN)

SqueezeOS (formerly Jive software)

Squeezebox (aka SB3 aka Squeezebox Classic aka Squeezebox v3 )

Transporter (aka TR)

gerph
2008-01-09, 11:32
On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:57 AM, SuperQ wrote:
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To further confuse things, we'll be renaming the Jive software to "SqueezeOS" soon (I mentioned this in another post...)


Um... Maybe I'm missing something, but... it's not an OS. The OS is Linux and it's just an application on top of that.

snarlydwarf
2008-01-09, 11:39
Um... Maybe I'm missing something, but... it's not an OS. The OS is Linux and it's just an application on top of that.

Depends on how you define OS.

The kernel is Linux. The OS is often more than the kernel (hence why the FSF says it is "GNU/Linux" since things like gcc, libc, bash, cat, passwd, etc are FSF projects).

If the OS includes the presentation layer, ie, the UI (Microsoft certainly argues this as part of why IE is part of the OS), then it would be fair to call it SqueezeOS.

Defining OS is part of the problem... I certainly don't believe it is just the kernel. That has never been true, be it CP/M or TOPS-10, the kernel is just part of the OS... and if the os includes commmand line stuff like cat and ls, then why wouldn't a GUI be included as part of the OS as well when it is provided. (It may be an optional part on most Unix systems, but it is a mandatory component on Windows.)

aubuti
2008-01-09, 11:40
Um... Maybe I'm missing something, but... it's not an OS. The OS is Linux and it's just an application on top of that.
Well, Dean did say that they were doing it "to further confuse things"....

dean
2008-01-09, 11:46
On Jan 9, 2008, at 10:40 AM, aubuti wrote:

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> gerph;256491 Wrote:
>> Um... Maybe I'm missing something, but... it's not an OS. The OS is
>> Linux and it's just an application on top of that.
> Well, Dean did say that they were doing it "to further confuse
> things"....
>

That's our strategy and we're sticking to it. :)

amcluesent
2008-01-09, 15:56
>SqueezeCenter 7 (aka SC7, formerly SlimServer)<

SqueezeCentre in the mother country :)