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magicred1
2007-12-28, 04:56
ok after all my woes with the sqbx i decided to give it another go,due to the responses thati had when i couldn't get it to work.well i'm glad that i decided to persevere on.what a nice machine.downloaded i tunes got some radio stations put my mp3s on as well,although they could be in better order.thats for another day.anyway all is well running it through my yamaha 2500 reciever,with a digital coax cable.and yes what a sound.many thanks to everybody who persuaded me to get it back out of the box.have a good new year.i will be back to ask many more questions.
regards magicred1

Fifer
2007-12-28, 05:13
Welcome to the forum and well done for persevering and also for having the bottle to come back and post. :) You will find this a very helpful forum if you do have any problems. Enjoy your Squeezebox!

haunyack
2007-12-28, 05:34
This is a very tolerant forum, so save the humble pie for another day.
On the other hand, beware the Audiophile forum ;-)

Glad you are up and running and wish you many pleasurable hours listening to and growing your collection.

Welcome back.

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mintjaman
2007-12-28, 05:42
I am glad that you finally unlocked this Pandoras box of joy.
Have fun

mflint
2007-12-28, 06:08
put my mp3s on as well,although they could be in better order.thats for another day.
It depends how you're playing your music, how the mp3 files are tagged, and whether you have "shuffle" enabled.

If you generally want to play one album, one artist or one genre, then "My Music" (or "Music Library", I think, for SlimServer 6.5) is the menu you need. Otherwise, I tend to use "Random Mix" quite a lot...

You've just been over the first major hurdle - getting the server software installed and the Squeezebox connected to it. Next is organizing your music, and that means spending some time ripping and tagging. I think everyone here would agree that the initial rip and tag process is a cr*p job, but it's worth spending some time to get it right.

All the best,
Matthew

magicred1
2007-12-28, 07:11
thanks guys,yes that was my next question.i have different folders for my music on my pc.eg 2006,2005 etc.is it possible to have them seperate so that when i go to the sqbox i can go to 2006 and randomly pick from that folder.i have found that its not as easy as i thought.when i want a particular album it's a lot of searching.the radio stations are amazing.especially some of the ones from the usa.takes me back to when i was in the states years ago[ahem giving my age away here].

Shredder
2007-12-28, 07:46
Hey. I'm w/you. I have had a lot of trouble setting up my network, because I am not very techie. However, these products are fantastic and some of the short-term frustration is well worth the long term benefit. And, the forum is very helpful and patient w/techno-morons such as myself.

amcluesent
2007-12-28, 08:12
>when i want a particular album it's a lot of searching<

So you don't want to rely on just navigating the music folders. Get the tags in the files correct, rescan and then use the search/browse facility on the SB. And read and understand what's in the wiki - http://wiki.slimdevices.com/

slimkid
2007-12-28, 11:21
>when i want a particular album it's a lot of searching<

So you don't want to rely on just navigating the music folders. Get the tags in the files correct, rescan and then use the search/browse facility on the SB. And read and understand what's in the wiki - http://wiki.slimdevices.com/

Strongly agree. Seting up the specialised directory structure to replace tagging is a dead end job.
Using SB is going to change the way you are listening to the music, and one of things that will happen is that, after doing proper tagging job, you'll get more familiar with your music collection. It is very rewarding experience.

mintjaman
2007-12-28, 15:04
after doing proper tagging job, you'll get more familiar with your music collection. It is very rewarding experience.
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The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially

How does tagging have any effect on the sound quality or dynamics of a piece of audio ? I am new to mp3 although I have loads of mp3s most of which sound pretty good to me and I thought that tagging was just the element of the mp3 file to list sont title, artist, bitrate etc. I can hear differences in say at 32kb file as opposed to a 192kb file.

I use WMA Workshop to convert my CDs into either FLAC or Mp3 and you can also enter tagging id as well.

on my music collection I have created folders on the drive which reflect years and others styles. Within those folders I have manually placed my tracks and I can search through them with the SB and create playlists if I want.

In what other way would you accomplish this with a proper tagging job as you have said?

Thanks

jeffmeh
2007-12-28, 16:41
after doing proper tagging job, you'll get more familiar with your music collection. It is very rewarding experience.
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The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially

How does tagging have any effect on the sound quality or dynamics of a piece of audio ? I am new to mp3 although I have loads of mp3s most of which sound pretty good to me and I thought that tagging was just the element of the mp3 file to list sont title, artist, bitrate etc. I can hear differences in say at 32kb file as opposed to a 192kb file.

I use WMA Workshop to convert my CDs into either FLAC or Mp3 and you can also enter tagging id as well.

on my music collection I have created folders on the drive which reflect years and others styles. Within those folders I have manually placed my tracks and I can search through them with the SB and create playlists if I want.

In what other way would you accomplish this with a proper tagging job as you have said?

Thanks

I believe you took SlimKid's signature line as related to his post, rather than what I presume to be a sarcastic jab at some of the snake oil associated with audiophilia.

No, the tagging will not affect the sound (other than replaygain and the like).

Certainly what matters is that your organization/tagging scheme works for you. However, you may find it preferable to tag properly and navigate your music based on the tags rather than on folder structure. YMMV.

mintjaman
2007-12-28, 16:56
Jeffmeh,

OK I was not up to speed on the humour content, however I have re-read what was said and I now see it, Ha !

When you refer to tagging properly how would you describe the process ?

mflint
2007-12-30, 14:38
i have different folders for my music on my pc.eg 2006,2005 etc.is it possible to have them seperate so that when i go to the sqbox i can go to 2006 and randomly pick from that folder.

Under the "Music Library" menu, there's an item called "Years". From there you can choose your year, and either play all tracks tagged with that year, or choose a particular album to play.

This does, of course, rely on your music being tagged correctly.

If you'd like to do the same for whole decades, Erland's Custom Browse Plugin (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Custom_Browse_plugin) will help.


Jeffmeh,
When you refer to tagging properly how would you describe the process ?

For me, "tagging properly" means:

* consistent artist naming. Choose whether to name your artist "Elton John" or "John, Elton", "The Beatles" or "Beatles, The" - and stick to it consistently. It's annoying to have two artists "Ian Dury And The Blockheads" and "Ian Dury & The Blockheads"

* make sure that capitalization of artist names, album names, song names is consistent. (Yes, it is picky, but does annoy me)

* sensible Genre tagging (you'd be amazed the number of times that CDDB has suggested that Metallica is "funk" or Rancid is "jazz")

* multiple CD sets are done correctly. For me, this means that each CD has exactly the same "Album" tag, so none of this "(Disc 2 of 3)" nonsense. Tracks on each disc should have a "Disc" tag which has the correct disc number

* correct "Year" tags, if that's important to you. I often use Erland's CustomBrowse plugin to do "Decade" searches.

Finally, not strictly to do with tagging, but... album art: Now we're in the Jive Age, album art is more important than it was a few months ago

Yes, it's a pain to get right. Yes, you could argue that I'm anal. But when it's not right, the inconsistencies are annoying...

Matthew