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brucegrr
2007-12-13, 15:20
I need some advice.

I have switched to Ubuntu.

Everything is fine except I can not find good replacements for EAC and Mp3 Tag.

Any suggestions?

I need the programs to be easy to install, have ample documentation on how to use the program, and in the case of doing tags I need to be able to batch process.

Thanks Bruce

Ron F.
2007-12-13, 15:28
EAC works perfectly under Ubunty Gutsy (using wine,) so you could just keep using what you have grown accustomed to using. It is at least an option.

According to winehq mp3tag (v2.39) works well under wine also. See http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9500&iTestingId=16624

Personally, I use easyTAG in Ubuntu - it works well.

-Ron

reverber
2007-12-13, 15:29
IIRC, EAC runs under wine. Not sure about mp3tag.

I use abcde. It took a bit to get it set up (kind of like EAC?), but once I got it set up and tweaked, I never messed with it again. I use flactag for tagging (highly recommended software).

Cody

Ben Sandee
2007-12-13, 15:33
On Dec 13, 2007 4:29 PM, reverber <
reverber.31jwvz1197585001 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:

>
> IIRC, EAC runs under wine. Not sure about mp3tag.


mp3tag works great, I just tried it. The OP should use this page as a
reference to installing wine: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb

Once installed, just download the mp3tag installer and run it using wine by
double clicking on the .exe on the desktop.

Ben

brucegrr
2007-12-13, 18:08
Thanks.

Setup WINE. Works as you all said it would.

These two programs were the last things keeping me in Windows.

Bruce

Ron F.
2007-12-13, 18:21
Thanks.

Setup WINE. Works as you all said it would.

These two programs were the last things keeping me in Windows.

Bruce

Hooray! Another convert to Linux:)

-Ron

brucegrr
2007-12-13, 20:37
Another question :)

I use Album Art Aggregator to fetch the album art

Any suggestions for Linux?

You guys may regret me being a Linux convert :)

Bruce

Ron F.
2007-12-13, 22:20
Hi Bruce,

Allow me to introduce you to Amarok. I don't know if it is as ideal for fetching album covers as what you were using under Windows, particularly if you were using a tool dedicated for that purpose, but it does fetch album covers from Amazon, and does a great job for me.

In my view Amarok is the best music player available today, for any OS. Check out: http://amarok.kde.org/

-Ron

brucegrr
2007-12-13, 23:09
ron,

Downloaded it and will give it a whirl

Thanks

Bruce

mherger
2007-12-14, 00:20
> Everything is fine except I can not find good replacements for EAC and
> Mp3 Tag.

I've been using Grip and Easytag to manage my collection.

Diana
2007-12-14, 01:00
Michael Herger wrote:
>> Everything is fine except I can not find good replacements for EAC and
>> Mp3 Tag.
>
> I've been using Grip and Easytag to manage my collection.



Michael >>> Like you, I use EasyTag in GNU/Linux (having used MP3Tag in
my previous life as a WinXP user).

As you know, MusicIP has problems with accented letters in file names,
and I need to remove these characters from a collection of 8000+ songs.
IIRC, I could do that easily with MP3Tag, using regex find and replace
on the whole collection.

What can I use in GNU/Linux to do this kind of fast block replace of
characters in file names? I can't see how to do it with EasyTag (except
one character at a time using the Scanner to 'Process Fields' and
convert one character to another). Do you know any quicker way of doing
this - with EasyTag, or with any other app?

--
Diana

mherger
2007-12-14, 01:13
> As you know, MusicIP has problems with accented letters in file names,
> and I need to remove these characters from a collection of 8000+ songs.
> IIRC, I could do that easily with MP3Tag, using regex find and replace
> on the whole collection.

I used the command line - don't know the exact syntax any more, but google
can help a lot. Eg.
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=36305

Diana
2007-12-14, 01:26
Michael Herger wrote:
> I used the command line - don't know the exact syntax any more, but google
> can help a lot. Eg.
> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=36305

Thanks for the suggestion & URL Michael. I'll take a look.

Diana

Millwood
2007-12-14, 16:22
I use id3v2 under debian. its pure command line, but you can write scripts to do most batch stuff.

For example, I have a script to fetch and rewrite tags because the CD ripped tags are often in some form of Unicode that confuses my system.

Diana
2007-12-15, 01:06
reverber wrote:
> IIRC, EAC runs under wine. Not sure about mp3tag.

Like Ben, I've just tried mp3tag under Wine, and I'm really impressed.
Other things I've tried with Wine have been only a partial success -
probably because they've been too complex or not well behaved.

But mp3tag runs flawlessly and fast. Great! So I'll definitely try
EAC, too.

Thanks, Cody.

Diana

mudlark
2007-12-15, 06:36
I am also trying to find the best way to add art. at present i am trying Cowbell.

If you open Cowbell then import any track from an album. If it has tags then the art appears (hopefully) when you save the art is copied into the directory from where the album was imported.

If no tags then put the album details in and away you go.

Ben Sandee
2007-12-15, 11:19
On Dec 15, 2007 2:06 AM, Diana Artemis <diana.artemis (AT) virgin (DOT) net> wrote:

> reverber wrote:
> > IIRC, EAC runs under wine. Not sure about mp3tag.
>
> Like Ben, I've just tired mp3tag under Wine, and I'm really impressed.
> Other things I've tried with Wine have been only a partial success -
> probably because they've been too complex or not well behaved.


wine has improved dramatically even in the past 2-3 months. We're not too
far from that tipping point where the application that doesn't run is the
*exception* rather than the rule, except for perhaps the newest games such
as those made for Vista exclusively.

Ben

cphan
2007-12-26, 12:57
I've also been using Grip and Easytag to manage my collection in Ubuntu Gutsy

ceejay
2008-01-28, 16:00
Recently switched to Ubuntu for my "production" server. All is well except that Easytag seems a bit limited (I'm used to mp3tag!). The limitation that most annoys me is that it seems only to allow me to edit the tags that it thinks I should be editing, ie won't allow me to create arbitrary tags.

Have I missed something?

Or am I going to have to go down the mp3tag/Wine route as well?

TIA
Ceejay

signor_rossi
2008-01-29, 02:11
Recently switched to Ubuntu for my "production" server. All is well except that Easytag seems a bit limited (I'm used to mp3tag!). The limitation that most annoys me is that it seems only to allow me to edit the tags that it thinks I should be editing, ie won't allow me to create arbitrary tags.

Have I missed something?

Or am I going to have to go down the mp3tag/Wine route as well?

TIA
Ceejay

1) Certainly you do. 2) No. ;)
Easytag has some glitches but in general it is very powerful and usable (and still actively mantained).
Could you elaborate a bit more what you are trying to do (beware that I am not a native english speaker)? Probably I can help you then.

Bye, signor_rossi.

EDIT: Found out what is meant with arbitrary tags and 1) no, you don't miss anything, easytag hasn't got that possibility. kid3 can do arbitrary tags, but mp3tag/Wine should be painless to install and seems to work too (have it working perfectly in Arch Linux).

Mark Lanctot
2008-01-29, 10:27
All is well except that Easytag seems a bit limited (I'm used to mp3tag!).

I'm also not exactly a fan of EasyTAG - once you go mp3tag, everything else seems hard or limited!

Ex Falso is pretty good though. Not as many features as EasyTAG but it will read and delete tags EasyTAG can't and it will allow you to enter arbitrary tags. Ex Falso is in the Ubuntu repos I believe?

ceejay
2008-01-31, 17:21
Ex Falso is pretty good though. Not as many features as EasyTAG but it will read and delete tags EasyTAG can't and it will allow you to enter arbitrary tags. Ex Falso is in the Ubuntu repos I believe?

Thanks very much for that tip! It certainly isn't mp3tag, but it will as you say let me do arbitrary tags so will be usable for basic tagging activities.

Let me see, what will I miss next? Probably the ability in mp3tag to load up long lists of tracks, sort in various ways, and hunt for tag inconsistencies! But TBH I do that rarely enough that I'll find a way to use mp3tag after all for those occasions.

Ceejay

Mark Lanctot
2008-01-31, 18:39
You know what, all this talk yesterday finally made me bite the bullet, install wine and install Mp3tag and EAC. They're both working perfectly, but it feels like such a cop-out.

Oh and wine works so much better than it used to, I first used this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 , now you just install it from the repo.

Ben Sandee
2008-01-31, 22:35
On Jan 31, 2008 7:39 PM, Mark Lanctot <
Mark.Lanctot.342wcn1201830001 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:

>
> You know what, all this talk yesterday finally made me bite the bullet,
> install wine and install Mp3tag and EAC. They're both working
> perfectly, but it feels like such a cop-out.


I know what you mean and how you feel -- but I would suggest you move past
it. There's nothing wrong with using wine to run a best-of-breed
application like mp3tag. Best tool for the job and all... Sure, it would
be nice to have mp3tag running 'native' but it runs so well under wine that
it almost feels native. I was amazed at how well things like the file
browser worked. Wine has improved so much in the past six months you're
starting to see Linux run many Windows applications *better* than Windows
itself. Imagine where we'll be in a year or so, unless everyone starts
making their applications Vista-specific (unlikely at the moment).


Ben

bulletmark
2008-02-01, 03:24
I know what you mean and how you feel -- but I would suggest you move past it.
I know how he feels as well - but it *is* a cop-out.

Yuk, you won't see me touching no dirty stinking windows software ... ;)

Ben Sandee
2008-02-01, 08:48
On Feb 1, 2008 4:24 AM, bulletmark <
bulletmark.343knn1201861501 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:

>
> Ben Sandee;264573 Wrote:
> >
> > I know what you mean and how you feel -- but I would suggest you move
> > past it.
> I know how he feels as well - but it *is* a cop-out.
>
> Yuk, you won't see me touching no dirty stinking windows software ...
> ;)


:-)

I know we're just joking around now but I really see it little different
from running your favorite game (World of Warcraft anyone?) under Wine or
running your favorite NES game, Super Mario Brothers 3, in an emulator on
Linux. One could say it's a cop-out not to drag out your old NES and play
it on that...

ceejay
2008-02-01, 09:15
One could say it's a cop-out not to drag out your old NES and play
it on that...

You could say that, and it would be entirely rational.

However, this is nothing to do with rationality: we're talking visceral feelings here!

FWIW I'd probably feel bad about running Microsoft's own software in Wine (like letting the enemy in through the gate) but that feeling doesn't extend to third party software like mp3tag that just happens to be released on Windows.

Not rational either, of course!

Mark Lanctot
2008-02-01, 09:36
FWIW I'd probably feel bad about running Microsoft's own software in Wine (like letting the enemy in through the gate) but that feeling doesn't extend to third party software like mp3tag that just happens to be released on Windows.

I agree with this, EAC and Mp3tag are third-party applications and they could just as easily have been developed for Linux, but they weren't, and they really are best-in-class applications with no equivalents.

I have tried all the equivalents, they just don't measure up for me, and I've tried to avoid the "I only like it because I'm used to it" thing, EAC really has no equivalent and EasyTAG tries to do some things like Mp3tag but doesn't (you can't see all tags, for example.)

egd
2008-02-01, 13:37
I agree with this, EAC and Mp3tag are third-party applications and they could just as easily have been developed for Linux, but they weren't, and they really are best-in-class applications with no equivalents. I'm with you in that there is simply nothing that comes close to mp3tag, even in the windows world, I'm not as convinced re EAC though. Whilst I've had the odd issue using Grip as a cdparanoia frontend, ripping via cdparanoia has always produced excellent results for me.

So long as there is no native mp3tag or an equivalent I'll always be running at least one app in Wine or in a VM (there's something very satisfying about treating windows just like any other application rather than having to deal with it as your OS. It's like it's finally been relegated to where it's always belonged). I've nothing per se against Windows, it's just extremely refreshing and liberating to be able to choose and to be using a robust operating system that doesn't inevitably sh1t itself over time eventually requiring a rebuild.

bulletmark
2008-02-01, 15:45
EasyTAG tries to do some things like Mp3tag but doesn't (you can't see all tags, for example.)
Yes, EasyTAG can't see or set the compilation tag for example. And as a newbie to the SB who has been trying to clean up his music database, I've discovered that this tag is absolutely essential. :(