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ob_kook
2007-12-08, 20:09
Microsoft Virtual PC is free and allows you to run multiple concurrent virtual PC's within a single actual PC. I've found this to be really helpful when "messing around" with new configurations, plugin's, versions etc. Heck, you can even run other O/S and don't have to deal with multiple boot drives or messy emulators.

This is probably not news to many of you, but it has made a difference in how aggressivley I am willing to try out new and different things.

I simply keep a template copy of a stable starting build (the entire virtual PC mind you) and if things get too hairy, I delete the PC I'm working with and start over with a fresh one.

Is anyone else using this technology?

peter
2007-12-08, 20:32
ob_kook wrote:
> Microsoft Virtual PC is free and allows you to run multiple concurrent
> virtual PC's within a single actual PC. I've found this to be really
> helpful when "messing around" with new configurations, plugin's,
> versions etc. Heck, you can even run other O/S and don't have to deal
> with multiple boot drives or messy emulators.
>

Can you run Linux VM's on it?

> This is probably not news to many of you, but it has made a difference
> in how aggressivley I am willing to try out new and different things.
>
> I simply keep a template copy of a stable starting build (the entire
> virtual PC mind you) and if things get too hairy, I delete the PC I'm
> working with and start over with a fresh one.
>
> Is anyone else using this technology?
>

Sure, I use VMWare workstation (not free) and Xen (free on Linux). It's
great stuff, but Microsoft is a little late to the party. I also worry
if they haven't put in any incentives against running a non-Windows OS.

Regards,
Peter

ob_kook
2007-12-08, 21:12
Can you run Linux VM's on it?

...

Sure, I use VMWare workstation (not free) and Xen (free on Linux). It's
great stuff, but Microsoft is a little late to the party. I also worry
if they haven't put in any incentives against running a non-Windows OS.

Regards,
Peter

Yes, you can run Linux on it.

I am in the industry and very familiar with VMware. Actually their workstation used to be called "GSX" and was free a couple years back (sounds like you probably know that).

XEN is pretty good and is the basis for several permutations out there (Xensource who was acquired recently by Citrix, Virtual Iron, etc).

I think Virtual Iron is still free and although is missing a couple of enterprise features, it is pretty good.

Yes, MS is late to the party, but the recent effort (VPC 2007) has surprised me in how good it is.

edit: I may be wrong about the product evolution of VMware. They did have a free product called GSX, but I am not sure Workstation replaced it...

mherger
2007-12-08, 21:28
> I am in the industry and very familiar with VMware. Actually their
> workstation used to be called "GSX" and was free a couple years back
> (sounds like you probably know that).

Workstation has always been the workstation product, but never free. The
GSX successor is called simply VMware Server and is free. Though it
doesn't offer all the bells and whistles of the workstation product like
multiple snapshots, integration with the desktop (d'n'd between host and
VM) etc.

I wouldn't want to work without it. Regularly testing the UI on
7+ browser/OS combos would be a nightmare...

Michael

CatBus
2007-12-08, 22:46
I also worry if they haven't put in any incentives against running a non-Windows OS.

In a way, they have--the host OS must be Windows. I'd certainly consider using their product if it weren't for that pretty serious limitation.

Ramage
2007-12-09, 01:43
I use Vmware Player which is free, and create the virtual machines on EasyVMX http://www.easyvmx.com/

I use it for a number of linux and WinXP test setups.

I did try VPC 2007 but did not like it as much as Vmware player - so stopped using it

Benway
2007-12-09, 06:37
I haven't run the full vpc 2007 but the beta had one v. serious flaw.

No USB support.

Dont know if they changed that in the release version.

I am a happy vmware user so i wasn't bothered.

peter
2007-12-09, 07:27
Ramage wrote:
> I use Vmware Player which is free, and create the virtual machines on
> EasyVMX http://www.easyvmx.com/
>

Cool work around!

Regards,
Peter

sebp
2007-12-09, 08:46
Nobody using http://www.virtualbox.org out there ?
It's always better when it's free (GPL) ...