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Talley, Brooks
2004-01-20, 12:22
I apologize in advance if these are FAQ type questions; I did read the
FAQ, and I have installed and played with Slimserver, but I didn't see a
way to search the mailing list archives.

I'm currently using Streamsicle (www.streamsicle.com) for pc-to-pc
streaming, but I'm looking at moving to Squeezebox to do away with the
PC down by the stereo equipment. However, there are two features that I
really like in Streamsicle that don't seem to appear in Streamserver.

- "Idle" random mode: Streamsicle is always playing *something*, even
if no player is connected. However, it doesn't require a playlist to do
this. Instead, if there are no user-submitted songs in the queue, each
time a song starts another song is randomly added to the queue, and will
be the next song played. If a user submits a song, playlist, etc, it
overwrites that next random song. It's a very nice way to listen to a
random selection of music, see what's coming up next and have the
ability to veto it, etc. And then, if I want to play an entire album or
select 10 or 15 or however many songs, I don't have to clear the
playlist -- just adding the manual selections overrides the random mode.

- Weighted random selection: For random purposes, Streamsicle can keep
track of user-requested songs, and weight them more heavily for random
selection. Over a few days of use, the random feature really evolves
into a "my recent favorite music" feature, with the occasional totally
random song.

I'd love to hear if one or both of those things is possible using the
Squeezebox / Slimserver combo.

Cheers
-Brooks

Simon
2004-01-20, 12:52
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:22:16AM -0800, Talley, Brooks wrote:
> I apologize in advance if these are FAQ type questions; I did read the
> FAQ, and I have installed and played with Slimserver, but I didn't see a
> way to search the mailing list archives.

Sorry for the lack of a real reply to your message but this is common
enough that I thought it was worth commenting on.
Would one of the list admins perhaps consider subscribing the user
and/or devel lists to mail-archive.com or a similar service? A
searchable archive might help cut down on duplicate/recurring threads.

Just a thought,

--
Simon

kdf
2004-01-20, 13:00
Quoting Simon <lists (AT) routemeister (DOT) net>:


> Sorry for the lack of a real reply to your message but this is common
> enough that I thought it was worth commenting on.
> Would one of the list admins perhaps consider subscribing the user
> and/or devel lists to mail-archive.com or a similar service? A
> searchable archive might help cut down on duplicate/recurring threads.

Both are archived at gmane.org and also available as nntp feeds through gmane
newgroups.

dean
2004-01-20, 13:00
The lists are already archived on gmane.org for reading with your web
browser:

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.equipment.slimdevices.general

or newsreader:

nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.equipment.slimdevices.general

-dean

On Jan 20, 2004, at 11:52 AM, Simon wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:22:16AM -0800, Talley, Brooks wrote:
>> I apologize in advance if these are FAQ type questions; I did read the
>> FAQ, and I have installed and played with Slimserver, but I didn't
>> see a
>> way to search the mailing list archives.
>
> Sorry for the lack of a real reply to your message but this is common
> enough that I thought it was worth commenting on.
> Would one of the list admins perhaps consider subscribing the user
> and/or devel lists to mail-archive.com or a similar service? A
> searchable archive might help cut down on duplicate/recurring threads.
>
> Just a thought,
>
> --
> Simon
>
>

kdf
2004-01-20, 13:25
Suppose the original question really needs to be answered too :)

Quoting "Talley, Brooks" <brooks (AT) frnk (DOT) com>:

> I'm currently using Streamsicle (www.streamsicle.com) for pc-to-pc
> streaming, but I'm looking at moving to Squeezebox to do away with the
> PC down by the stereo equipment. However, there are two features that I
> really like in Streamsicle that don't seem to appear in Streamserver.
>
> - "Idle" random mode:

It's possible to do, but not out of the box. There is no way for the server to
currently just pick a song at random and add it. User input is the only way to
manipulate the playlists in the current software. I have seen one website
mention a Ruby script running in the background to generate random playlists. If
you were up for some scripting, you could create playlists this way, or access
the server through the CLI (command line interface) to add random tracks on the fly.

>
> - Weighted random selection:

no, It is in the feature requests to have ratings brought over from iTunes
libraries, and for use while playing. When this happens, it could be possible
to create playlists based on favourites.

cheers,
kdf

Simon
2004-01-20, 13:31
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 12:00:45PM -0800, dean blackketter wrote:
> The lists are already archived on gmane.org for reading with your web
> browser:
>
> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.equipment.slimdevices.general
>
> or newsreader:
>
> nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.equipment.slimdevices.general

Perhaps a 'search' link to the appropriate url on:
http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_resources.html
along side the other list specific links might be an idea? There are
several mail-archive'ish sites available, guessing which one is used
isn't always easy. :)

--
Simon

dean
2004-01-20, 13:43
Funny you should ask. I updated that very page based on your
suggestion...


On Jan 20, 2004, at 12:31 PM, Simon wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 12:00:45PM -0800, dean blackketter wrote:
>> The lists are already archived on gmane.org for reading with your web
>> browser:
>>
>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.equipment.slimdevices.general
>>
>> or newsreader:
>>
>> nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.equipment.slimdevices.general
>
> Perhaps a 'search' link to the appropriate url on:
> http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_resources.html
> along side the other list specific links might be an idea? There are
> several mail-archive'ish sites available, guessing which one is used
> isn't always easy. :)
>
> --
> Simon
>
>