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kewe65
2007-10-10, 14:40
I'm using JRiver Media Center to organize my music and I frequently use the Disk # field as part of ripping from CDs, but I do not group albums in MC by the disk #.

However, upon rescan in Slimserver, it is reading this field and grouping albums into disk groups. This is causing a couple of annoyances so far:

1. I have to go through three sets of steps to add a 3-disk album to a playlist or for playback.
2. The list of albums is much longer than it needs to be, making browsing in the web-based tool more cumbersome than it should be.

Is there a way to configure how slimserver organizes the files so it does NOT group by disk? Seems pretty rudimentary to not have this grouping. Its fine to display the field for reference purposes, but useless from a library organization perspective once the music is ripped from the CD.

snarlydwarf
2007-10-10, 14:42
Server Settings / Behavior:

Group Discs
You can specify if multiple disc sets are treated as a single album (with a single name) or as multiple albums, each with a unique name per disc, for example "Album Title (Disc 2 of 3)". Changing this setting will start a rescan of your music library.

Choose Treat multi-disc sets as a single album.

kewe65
2007-10-10, 14:51
thanks! - i was looking around for the settings and couldnt find it.


Server Settings / Behavior:

Group Discs
You can specify if multiple disc sets are treated as a single album (with a single name) or as multiple albums, each with a unique name per disc, for example "Album Title (Disc 2 of 3)". Changing this setting will start a rescan of your music library.

Choose Treat multi-disc sets as a single album.

kewe65
2007-10-10, 17:17
That did not work.

The only thing changing that one setting did - after the rescan of the library - was take out the words "(Disc x)" at the end of the album listing. There's still three of them and they still contain each the songs from the discs.

Is there something else that also has to be set?

(just to note if you're thinking this: i have removed the "disc x" from the end of the album title in jriver, so the album titles for each disc are exactly the same).


Server Settings / Behavior:

Group Discs
You can specify if multiple disc sets are treated as a single album (with a single name) or as multiple albums, each with a unique name per disc, for example "Album Title (Disc 2 of 3)". Changing this setting will start a rescan of your music library.

Choose Treat multi-disc sets as a single album.

snarlydwarf
2007-10-10, 17:27
Does each disc have the same (exact) name? Does each disk have the proper TPOS or DISCNUMBER set? Are they in the same directory or different directories? Are you using CUE sheets?

It works fine for me (when I use it ... some multi disc sets I want to keep split).

Ie, for albums-that-span-multiple-discs, I name the tracks as 1-01, 1-02.. 2-01.. etc

I put them all in the same directory so they are treated as a unit (ie, Browse Music Folder should behave the same way, it is an album, not a disc).

I set TPOS to 1/3, etc.

Without knowing what you are doing, "it doesn't work" isn't going to explain why.

kewe65
2007-10-10, 22:29
Each disc has exactly the same name. All files are in one folder also with the name of the album, not disc. Many of these are ripped from CD-R using JRiver MC, but many are commercial sets ripped this way. The *only* place there is a disc number is in the disk # field in MC.

I'm not using CUE sheets (that I know of) Since I don't know what they are, Im not using them deliberately.

"It doesn't work" is the shortest statement possible to explain the result of attempting the first instruction. If I could explain why, I wouldn't have posted in the first place.

thanks



Does each disc have the same (exact) name? Does each disk have the proper TPOS or DISCNUMBER set? Are they in the same directory or different directories? Are you using CUE sheets?

It works fine for me (when I use it ... some multi disc sets I want to keep split).

Ie, for albums-that-span-multiple-discs, I name the tracks as 1-01, 1-02.. 2-01.. etc

I put them all in the same directory so they are treated as a unit (ie, Browse Music Folder should behave the same way, it is an album, not a disc).

I set TPOS to 1/3, etc.

Without knowing what you are doing, "it doesn't work" isn't going to explain why.

snarlydwarf
2007-10-10, 22:42
What format? What are the tags exactly?

(Ie, if flac, try "flac --list filename" to see them. Trusting GUI's is dangerouss: they often lie.)

This works correctly:

comment[0]: Tracktotal=18
comment[1]: Title=Black Cross
comment[2]: Musicip_puid=3485eb78-904e-fcd8-30fd-47d5b6986eaa
comment[3]: Musicbrainz_variousartists=0
comment[4]: Musicbrainz_trackid=3356a119-8d03-449a-81a5-938a090aedee
comment[5]: Musicbrainz_sortname=Dylan, Bob
comment[6]: Musicbrainz_nonalbum=0
comment[7]: Musicbrainz_artistid=72c536dc-7137-4477-a521-567eeb840fa8
comment[8]: Musicbrainz_albumtype=other
comment[9]: Musicbrainz_albumstatus=bootleg
comment[10]: Musicbrainz_albumid=0199abad-a8f8-423d-a360-8c35a0f9d43d
comment[11]: Musicbrainz_albumartistsortname=Dylan, Bob
comment[12]: Musicbrainz_albumartistid=72c536dc-7137-4477-a521-567eeb840fa8
comment[13]: Musicbrainz_albumartist=Bob Dylan
comment[14]: Artist=Bob Dylan
comment[15]: DATE=1994-00-00
comment[16]: TRACKNUMBER=1
comment[17]: Album=The Genuine Bootleg Series, Volume 1
comment[18]: DISCNUMBER=1

and

comment[0]: Tracktotal=15
comment[1]: Title=Trouble in Mind
comment[2]: Musicip_puid=d2aae457-ac5e-886c-ba08-06d3c11aa751
comment[3]: Musicbrainz_variousartists=0
comment[4]: Musicbrainz_trackid=852aac6a-0811-4d78-bb44-95653cc2a772
comment[5]: Musicbrainz_sortname=Dylan, Bob
comment[6]: Musicbrainz_nonalbum=0
comment[7]: Musicbrainz_artistid=72c536dc-7137-4477-a521-567eeb840fa8
comment[8]: Musicbrainz_albumtype=other
comment[9]: Musicbrainz_albumstatus=bootleg
comment[10]: Musicbrainz_albumid=440ad6d1-cebc-4e28-a605-9932b984d96f
comment[11]: Musicbrainz_albumartistsortname=Dylan, Bob
comment[12]: Musicbrainz_albumartistid=72c536dc-7137-4477-a521-567eeb840fa8
comment[13]: Musicbrainz_albumartist=Bob Dylan
comment[14]: Artist=Bob Dylan
comment[15]: DATE=1994-00-00
comment[16]: TRACKNUMBER=1
comment[17]: Album=The Genuine Bootleg Series, Volume 1
comment[18]: DISCNUMBER=3

kewe65
2007-10-12, 09:21
Sorry - what is it you're asking me to do here?

Where do I go to get an output of the tags?

I'm using FLAC, btw.


What format? What are the tags exactly?

(Ie, if flac, try "flac --list filename" to see them. Trusting GUI's is dangerouss: they often lie.)

This works correctly:

comment[0]: Tracktotal=18
comment[1]: Title=Black Cross
comment[2]: Musicip_puid=3485eb78-904e-fcd8-30fd-47d5b6986eaa
comment[3]: Musicbrainz_variousartists=0
comment[4]: Musicbrainz_trackid=3356a119-8d03-449a-81a5-938a090aedee
comment[5]: Musicbrainz_sortname=Dylan, Bob
comment[6]: Musicbrainz_nonalbum=0
comment[7]: Musicbrainz_artistid=72c536dc-7137-4477-a521-567eeb840fa8
comment[8]: Musicbrainz_albumtype=other
comment[9]: Musicbrainz_albumstatus=bootleg
comment[10]: Musicbrainz_albumid=0199abad-a8f8-423d-a360-8c35a0f9d43d
comment[11]: Musicbrainz_albumartistsortname=Dylan, Bob
comment[12]: Musicbrainz_albumartistid=72c536dc-7137-4477-a521-567eeb840fa8
comment[13]: Musicbrainz_albumartist=Bob Dylan
comment[14]: Artist=Bob Dylan
comment[15]: DATE=1994-00-00
comment[16]: TRACKNUMBER=1
comment[17]: Album=The Genuine Bootleg Series, Volume 1
comment[18]: DISCNUMBER=1

and

comment[0]: Tracktotal=15
comment[1]: Title=Trouble in Mind
comment[2]: Musicip_puid=d2aae457-ac5e-886c-ba08-06d3c11aa751
comment[3]: Musicbrainz_variousartists=0
comment[4]: Musicbrainz_trackid=852aac6a-0811-4d78-bb44-95653cc2a772
comment[5]: Musicbrainz_sortname=Dylan, Bob
comment[6]: Musicbrainz_nonalbum=0
comment[7]: Musicbrainz_artistid=72c536dc-7137-4477-a521-567eeb840fa8
comment[8]: Musicbrainz_albumtype=other
comment[9]: Musicbrainz_albumstatus=bootleg
comment[10]: Musicbrainz_albumid=440ad6d1-cebc-4e28-a605-9932b984d96f
comment[11]: Musicbrainz_albumartistsortname=Dylan, Bob
comment[12]: Musicbrainz_albumartistid=72c536dc-7137-4477-a521-567eeb840fa8
comment[13]: Musicbrainz_albumartist=Bob Dylan
comment[14]: Artist=Bob Dylan
comment[15]: DATE=1994-00-00
comment[16]: TRACKNUMBER=1
comment[17]: Album=The Genuine Bootleg Series, Volume 1
comment[18]: DISCNUMBER=3

slimpy
2007-10-12, 15:36
Sorry - what is it you're asking me to do here?

Where do I go to get an output of the tags?

I'm using FLAC, btw.
If you have flac installed you should also have metaflac. If you don't download and install flac from flac.sourceforge.net.
Metaflac is flac's own command line tagger.
Then run the following command (from a command window):

metaflac --list --block-type=VORBIS_COMMENT <filename>
Post the output for two different files from different discs but same album.

-s.

kewe65
2007-10-12, 16:55
I checked a few of these and all have identical album names, different disc numbers, some commercial CDs like this example, some CD-Rs:

Also, there is nothing in the data that is stored to have slimserver recognize these as separate discs if it ignored the "Disc #" field. All songs in one directory. In Windows Explorer and in command window, the songs do not have disc numbers attached to their file properties. This includes the properties of the directory files themselves.

I am using the FLAC encoder from here: http://mcplugins.sourceforge.net/projects.html

METADATA block #1
type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
is last: false
length: 332
vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.1.4 20070213
comments: 13
comment[0]: TOOL NAME=Media Center
comment[1]: TOOL VERSION=12.0.279
comment[2]: DATE=1972/01/01
comment[3]: TITLE=Mingus Blues
comment[4]: PEAK LEVEL=0.99997
comment[5]: TRACKNUMBER=3
comment[6]: BPM=68
comment[7]: REPLAY GAIN=-11.48005
comment[8]: INTENSITY=1
comment[9]: ARTIST=Charles Mingus
comment[10]: ALBUM=Charles Mingus and Friends in Concert
comment[11]: GENRE=Jazz
comment[12]: DISC #=1

METADATA block #1
type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
is last: false
length: 341
vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.1.4 20070213
comments: 13
comment[0]: TOOL NAME=Media Center
comment[1]: TOOL VERSION=12.0.279
comment[2]: DATE=1972/01/01
comment[3]: TITLE=Ool Ya Koo
comment[4]: PEAK LEVEL=0.95499
comment[5]: TRACKNUMBER=2
comment[6]: BPM=162
comment[7]: REPLAY GAIN=-11.645289999999999
comment[8]: INTENSITY=2
comment[9]: ARTIST=Charles Mingus
comment[10]: ALBUM=Charles Mingus and Friends in Concert
comment[11]: GENRE=Jazz
comment[12]: DISC #=2



If you have flac installed you should also have metaflac. If you don't download and install flac from flac.sourceforge.net.
Metaflac is flac's own command line tagger.
Then run the following command (from a command window):

metaflac --list --block-type=VORBIS_COMMENT <filename>
Post the output for two different files from different discs but same album.

-s.

kewe65
2007-10-22, 09:28
fyi - this problem was solved by doing a complete clear and rescan twice.

thanks