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peter@bowyer.org
2004-01-18, 21:23
I think you're doing the 'slim guys' a dis-service here - what you're
talking about is a feature request - if you or someone else has logged it
in the Bugzilla system, it will get worked on either by someone in-house
or by one of the extended team of contributors...

Nobody really expects you to buy a SB to sit next to your PC - that was a
tongue-in-cheek suggesting by kdf (wasn't it???).

The most obvious route would be for someone to get Slimp3Slave working on
Windows. It appears to the server as a Slimp3 client, so it can be
synchronised to a hardware Slimp3/SB for monitoring, or can play its own
independent stream.

Peter

> I agree if it can be done on Linux surely it can be ported to windows
> with some tweaks. Surely its just a matter of duplicating the slimp3
> stream on localhost and re-routing to the line-out using some sort of
> timestamp as a reference to playing the music in parallel. I could have
> a look at the source and see hows it done with view to porting but I
> feel I might not be the best person as I have no experience in
> developing with audio under Win.
>
> Unfortunately I *think* the slim guys aren't really in a hurry to get a
> useable solution to this issue for Windows as it stops people from
> buying a 2nd squeezebox for a local monitor.
>
> I personally feel there is a **REAL** need to get a better-than-kludge
> solution to being able to monitor the stream from slimp3 server on
> windows.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Taylor [mailto:adam (AT) cc (DOT) gatech.edu]
> Sent: 19 January 2004 14:03
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] Listening to music locally at PC?
>
>
>
>> it does allow you to listen to the same music, in about the closest
>> way possible.
>
>> if you want syncronized play, that IS the solution. The only software
>
>> option works in Linux only. As for the 'right' solution, what exactly
>> did you have in mind? jsut becuase you have a pc and speakers doesn't
>
>> make the music automatically get from slimserver to your speakers.
>>
>> The ONLY other solution is to run a splitter off the slimp3, one set
>> going to the amplifier, and another set going to the line in of your
>> soundcard. By claiming my suggestion (while, admittedly
>> tongue-in-cheek) are bogus, suggests you are not aware of the
>> capabilities (and limitations) of the SlimServer software.
>> To use the server to listen to the same music, requires one of the
>> above solutions. Of course, if anyone wants to write a cross
>> platform client that can deliver audio to a pc souncard, I'll be
>> plenty willing to suggest it to anyone who needs it.
>>
>> -kdf
>
> It sounds as if a reasonable solution has been found for Linux. I'm not
> sure exactly how it works, where it gets the info from, and why a
> simliar such method won't work on a Windows box but if that could be
> duplicated then I think everyone would be happy downloading a separate
> client to do the actual push to the soundcard. What if the slimp3
> server just updated an XML file of the current Now Playing info?
>
> This is something I too have been interested in since I bought my
> slimp3. My reasons for purchasing a slimp3 over other units on the
> market are the same that forbid me from purchasing one to sit right next
> to my PC/slimp3 server... It just doesn't make sense, it's not the best
> solution. While I can envision having them fill my house this
> particular situation/location just doesn't work for me.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -Adam
>

Oliver Cookson
2004-01-19, 07:10
I agree if it can be done on Linux surely it can be ported to windows
with some tweaks. Surely its just a matter of duplicating the slimp3
stream on localhost and re-routing to the line-out using some sort of
timestamp as a reference to playing the music in parallel. I could have
a look at the source and see hows it done with view to porting but I
feel I might not be the best person as I have no experience in
developing with audio under Win.

Unfortunately I *think* the slim guys aren't really in a hurry to get a
useable solution to this issue for Windows as it stops people from
buying a 2nd squeezebox for a local monitor.

I personally feel there is a **REAL** need to get a better-than-kludge
solution to being able to monitor the stream from slimp3 server on
windows.

Thanks



-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Taylor [mailto:adam (AT) cc (DOT) gatech.edu]
Sent: 19 January 2004 14:03
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Listening to music locally at PC?



> it does allow you to listen to the same music, in about the closest
> way possible.

> if you want syncronized play, that IS the solution. The only software

> option works in Linux only. As for the 'right' solution, what exactly
> did you have in mind? jsut becuase you have a pc and speakers doesn't

> make the music automatically get from slimserver to your speakers.
>
> The ONLY other solution is to run a splitter off the slimp3, one set
> going to the amplifier, and another set going to the line in of your
> soundcard. By claiming my suggestion (while, admittedly
> tongue-in-cheek) are bogus, suggests you are not aware of the
> capabilities (and limitations) of the SlimServer software.
> To use the server to listen to the same music, requires one of the
> above solutions. Of course, if anyone wants to write a cross
> platform client that can deliver audio to a pc souncard, I'll be
> plenty willing to suggest it to anyone who needs it.
>
> -kdf

It sounds as if a reasonable solution has been found for Linux. I'm not
sure exactly how it works, where it gets the info from, and why a
simliar such method won't work on a Windows box but if that could be
duplicated then I think everyone would be happy downloading a separate
client to do the actual push to the soundcard. What if the slimp3
server just updated an XML file of the current Now Playing info?

This is something I too have been interested in since I bought my
slimp3. My reasons for purchasing a slimp3 over other units on the
market are the same that forbid me from purchasing one to sit right next
to my PC/slimp3 server... It just doesn't make sense, it's not the best
solution. While I can envision having them fill my house this
particular situation/location just doesn't work for me.

Thoughts?

-Adam

Jack Coates
2004-01-19, 09:18
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 06:10, Oliver Cookson wrote:
> I agree if it can be done on Linux surely it can be ported to windows
> with some tweaks. Surely its just a matter of duplicating the slimp3
> stream on localhost and re-routing to the line-out using some sort of
> timestamp as a reference to playing the music in parallel. I could have
> a look at the source and see hows it done with view to porting but I
> feel I might not be the best person as I have no experience in
> developing with audio under Win.
>
> Unfortunately I *think* the slim guys aren't really in a hurry to get a
> useable solution to this issue for Windows as it stops people from
> buying a 2nd squeezebox for a local monitor.

Actually, it's because it is a bizarre requirement which didn't come up
until a couple of weeks ago. Sorry if it seems obvious to you, but it
doesn't seem obvious to someone who is playing music through the stereo
instead of the computer _because the stereo sounds better_. I bought a
SliMP3 because hooking my soundcard up to the stereo sounded just as bad
as playing directly through the computer speakers. If I wanted to hear
bad-sounding music, I wouldn't have bought the SliMP3 :-)

But to each his own. If it's possible, it'll happen -- however, please
realize that transcoding, synchronization, and Internet streaming bugs
are higher priority because they are advertised features. Fixing
features that are supposed to work for people who already bought
hardware is more important than adding features that may or may not be
attractive to people who want to buy more hardware.

Not a Slimdevices-connected person, just a happy SliMP3 user.
--
Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture...
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