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richard
2004-01-14, 08:24
My apologies, I did in fact mean the real audio streaming format that is
used by many 'broadcasters" for compressing/streaming audio. I can see
how the winamp/shoutcast solution would work for anything that winamp
can capture (sound card, etc) but unfortunately 'real audio' isn't
supported by winamp.

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[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Mike Beranek
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:23 AM
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Subject: [slim] Streaming real audio


Please define "real audio". I thought you meant an analog broadcast of
a radio signal. You can set the winamp plugin to stream whatever winamp
is playing or whatever is coming in from your sound card input.

"richard" <rhellyer (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:000501c3da7d$fd80a6e0$b100a8c0 (AT) americas (DOT) cpqcorp.net...
..... <sorry for the diverse messages, but I am really having trouble
understanding the suggestion to use shoutcast/winamp> .. from what I
gather Winamp does not support realaudio, and therefore cannot transfer
it to a shoutcast server, so I don't see how this combination will help.
Have I got this wrong?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Beranek [mailto:beranek (AT) us (DOT) ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 6:50 PM
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] Streaming real audio


Use shoutcast and winamp (works for NT and XP) See post on 1/12/2004 at
1:40PM from Tom Wilson. I'm using it right now at 192 kbps streaming
some live audio broadcasts from my dishnetwork feed to winamp and
windows media player machines.

Mike Beranek

"richard" <rhellyer (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
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I've scanned the lists but not seen any clear solution to this.

I would very much like to be able to listen to streamed real audio
broadcasts, through my wonderful slimp3. There appears to be a solution
for a linux platform, but it is out of date with the latest server
software, and I have to use windows xp.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Steve Baumgarten
2004-01-14, 08:47
> My apologies, I did in fact mean the real audio streaming format that is
> used by many 'broadcasters" for compressing/streaming audio. I can see
> how the winamp/shoutcast solution would work for anything that winamp
> can capture (sound card, etc) but unfortunately 'real audio' isn't
> supported by winamp.

I'm not familiar with what Shoutcast can do, but I think the above gets to
the heart of the matter. For RealAudio and WMA streams you need to
actually be running the RealAudio player or the Windows Media Player.
(The whole point here for the provider is to make sure its audio streams
can't easily be saved to a disk file and then, of course, pirated.)

So in order to capture such a stream, you need to be able to do what Total
Recorder does: provide a sound card driver that gives you access to the
uncompressed digital stream.

http://www.highcriteria.com/

This way the Real Audio and Windows Media players have no idea that under
the hood something is diverting their output to disk (in addition to
optionally sending the stream to the sound card as the standard audio
driver would). Thus you end up with not the original RA or WMA encoded
stream as it arrived at your PC, but the decoded audio stream (in WAV
format) as it would normally be sent to your sound card.

I've used Total Recorder in the past to save protected audio streams to
disk so I could burn them to CD and then later on listen to them in my
car. (One can also transcode to MP3, etc., on the fly.) It handles all
this very nicely and transparently and the new version even lets you do
fairly sophisticated scheduling.

If Shoutcast provides such a driver, then it could certainly be used. If
not, then I think I'm back to looking at Simplecast (which judging from
the info on their home page does seem to be able to do data stream
diversion at the sound card driver level) or Total Recorder.

So I guess question #1 is whether Shoutcast provides a replacement driver
that works on Windows XP. Anyone know for sure?

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