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richard
2004-01-14, 02:08
..... <sorry for the diverse messages, but I am really having trouble
understanding the suggestion to use shoutcast/winamp> .. from what I
gather Winamp does not support realaudio, and therefore cannot transfer
it to a shoutcast server, so I don't see how this combination will help.
Have I got this wrong?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Beranek [mailto:beranek (AT) us (DOT) ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 6:50 PM
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] Streaming real audio


Use shoutcast and winamp (works for NT and XP) See post on 1/12/2004 at
1:40PM from Tom Wilson. I'm using it right now at 192 kbps streaming
some live audio broadcasts from my dishnetwork feed to winamp and
windows media player machines.

Mike Beranek

"richard" <rhellyer (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:000001c3d95c$dbfb6450$b100a8c0 (AT) americas (DOT) cpqcorp.net...

I've scanned the lists but not seen any clear solution to this.

I would very much like to be able to listen to streamed real audio
broadcasts, through my wonderful slimp3. There appears to be a solution
for a linux platform, but it is out of date with the latest server
software, and I have to use windows xp.

Any help would be appreciated.

<<< I hope this is the correct way to post messages to the new
discussion board - apologies if it isn't>>



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Ron Thigpen
2004-01-14, 08:26
richard wrote:

> .... <sorry for the diverse messages, but I am really having trouble
> understanding the suggestion to use shoutcast/winamp> .. from what I
> gather Winamp does not support realaudio, and therefore cannot transfer
> it to a shoutcast server, so I don't see how this combination will help.

i've not actually taken the time to set this up, but i believe i know
what all the bits and pieces are. you'll need the following:

WinAmp (i've only used the 2.0 series for this)
Tara plug-in for WinAmp (enables RealAudio playback from WinAmp)
<http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=22143>
Real Codecs (for use by Tara/WinAmp in decoding)
<http://shaohao.vip.sina.com/RealCodecs11.zip>
Streamcast streamer plug-in for WinAmp (outputs from WinAmp to input of
Streamcast server)
Streamcast server (streams mp3 format to the world)
..pls file in SlimServer music folder

install the real codecs, either from the installer i've linked above, or
by installing the real player. some hints on installing the player,
retaining the necessary bits, and then uninstalling the player are
available here:
<http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?showtopic=6489&st=50&>

install WinAmp
install Tara
test by playing a real stream using WinAmp+Tara
install Streamcase and streamcast plug-in for WinAmp
test Streamcast by playing anything through it to any mp3 stream player
create .pls file for your stream in the SlimServer music folder
configure WinAmp to use streamcast plug-in (see SC docs)
play real stream thru winamp+tara -> streamcast
browse via SB/Slim to .pls entry
play!

HTH,

--rt

Ron Thigpen
2004-01-14, 08:50
Ron Thigpen wrote:

> i've not actually taken the time to set this up, but i believe i know
> what all the bits and pieces are.


just to be clear, i do have a couple of working installations of
WinAmp/Tara/Real. i use winamp as a real stream player every day. it's
the streamcast bits i've not set up yet.

--rt

Steve Baumgarten
2004-01-14, 11:15
> install WinAmp
> install Tara
> test by playing a real stream using WinAmp+Tara
> install Streamcase and streamcast plug-in for WinAmp
> test Streamcast by playing anything through it to any mp3 stream player
> create .pls file for your stream in the SlimServer music folder
> configure WinAmp to use streamcast plug-in (see SC docs)
> play real stream thru winamp+tara -> streamcast
> browse via SB/Slim to .pls entry
> play!

This is tremendously helpful -- thanks very much. I'm going to give all
this a try as soon as possible.

Now I'm wondering if there's a similar solution for Windows Media streams.
Seems like you'd need the equivalent of Tara for WMA, since from what I
can tell Winamp by itself cannot play commercial WMA streams, e.g., the
WMA 9 streams at http://www.soul24-7.com (or if it can, I don't know how
to make it do so).

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Ron Thigpen
2004-01-14, 13:24
Steve Baumgarten wrote:

> This is tremendously helpful -- thanks very much. I'm going to give all
> this a try as soon as possible.


let us know how this goes for you. i'll be trying it myself as soon as
i have the time.


> Seems like you'd need the equivalent of Tara for WMA, since from what I
> can tell Winamp by itself cannot play commercial WMA streams, e.g., the
> WMA 9 streams at http://www.soul24-7.com (or if it can, I don't know how
> to make it do so).


winamp will play WMA files and streams. the trouble is getting thru the
..asf wrapper that most WMA servers send out. soul24-7 will serve
straight WMA (no .asf) if you tell it to.

i'm listening to the stream right now in winamp. (thanks for the
recommendation)

make sure your copy of winamp has a WMA input plug-in enabled and load
this URL into winamps Play-->Location dialog:

http://69.56.197.202/soul24-7medium?MSWMExt=.wma

it's the ?MSWMExt=.wma part that does the trick.

you should be able to send this to Shoutcast server and on to SlimServer
from there.

HTH,

--rt

Steve Baumgarten
2004-01-15, 08:19
> winamp will play WMA files and streams. the trouble is getting thru the
> .asf wrapper that most WMA servers send out. soul24-7 will serve
> straight WMA (no .asf) if you tell it to.
>
> i'm listening to the stream right now in winamp. (thanks for the
> recommendation)

It's my favorite radio station, online or offline.

> make sure your copy of winamp has a WMA input plug-in enabled and load
> this URL into winamps Play-->Location dialog:
>
> http://69.56.197.202/soul24-7medium?MSWMExt=.wma
>
> it's the ?MSWMExt=.wma part that does the trick.

Ah hah! Cool.

> you should be able to send this to Shoutcast server and on to SlimServer
> from there.

And hopefully with the long weekend approaching I'll be able to cobble all
this together and try it out.

Thanks again everyone for your help -- this list and the high level of
support it provides is one of the reasons I decided to get the Squeezebox
and also why I've been evangelizing it like mad to my friends.

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