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ntom
2007-08-19, 10:28
Has anyone bought a Transporter in the UK? Pricing here seems ludicrous, with on-line prices anywhere between £1300 & £1700 (approx $3350). That's a Squeezebox plus very expensive DAC...or maybe a squeezbox in every room.....

Why is this with Slim Devices website showing $2000 or a little over £1000.....

Fifer
2007-08-19, 11:04
I have one. I bought it when the launch promotion was on which made the price just over a grand effectively accounting for the free SB3.

amcluesent
2007-08-19, 11:09
LOL. I await the Logitech corporate PR team having this thread killed ASAP.

IMHO, there's loads of products with no link between price and fully-allocated costs, think of all the 'fashion' goods knocked up in sweat-shops and sold in Harrods. But Logitech's brand is way, way short of your Krell, McIntosh, Linn etc. of the hi-fi world, so a silly price is just going to result in zero-sales when there's no bragging rights in having bought the product.

I got my TP 2nd hand and love it, but I couldn't really say it was 'worth' £1700

JJZolx
2007-08-19, 11:23
LOL. I await the Logitech corporate PR team having this thread killed ASAP.
Why would they kill this thread when there's been another about the same issue going on for the last few weeks? They've been able to completely ignore that one, so one more won't hurt.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37308

Maybe what the PR guys could do is provide an explanation for the price difference.

seanadams
2007-08-19, 11:28
LOL. I await the Logitech corporate PR team having this thread killed ASAP.

Right, because that's something we've been known to do? Logi employees will not comment here on pricing for many reasons, but we're not here to suppress civilized discussion either. The only posts we've ever deleted are spam or the real nasty ones, eg personal attacks, foul language, slander etc.

erland
2007-08-19, 11:29
Something has actually happened since the last thread.
Previously the national Logitech sites showed a high price on the Transporter, £1700 in UK I believe, now the Logitech site doesn't show any price at all.

funkstar
2007-08-19, 11:48
The cost of things, especially specialist luxury items like the Transporter are higher in the UK (and the rest of Europe to a certain extent) because of the following reasons compared to the US:
Taxes are higher (VAT)
Taxes are higher (company tax)
The cost of business is generally higher (Wages, rents, electricity, etc)
The US is less afluent at the moment

And here is the killer point: The transporter can be sold at 1700, because thats what the market values it at. If no-one buys it at that price, then it will be reduced to the point it does sell.

Eric Seaberg
2007-08-19, 15:39
Has anyone bought a Transporter in the UK? Pricing here seems ludicrous, with on-line prices anywhere between £1300 & £1700 (approx $3350).

Why don't you have someone in the States purchase it at $2000, open the box and take it out (so it's not NEW) then re-ship to you? Either that or I'll sell you my black TP that's less than a year old for $2000 + shipping, then I'll replace it with a new one.

Could work...

pfarrell
2007-08-19, 15:52
Eric Seaberg wrote:
> Why don't you have someone in the States purchase it at $2000, open the
> box and take it out (so it's not NEW) then re-ship to you? Either that
> or I'll sell you my black TP that's less than a year old for $2000 +
> shipping, then I'll replace it with a new one.
> Could work...

Lots of places have strange markup do to customs taxes, VAT, exchange
rates, etc.

I've bought stuff for friends in down under, plugged it in so I know it
is USED, and ship it.

You (the receiver) are still liable for duties, etc.

It always amazes me that for a lot of consumer stuff, the UK price in
pounds is the same as the US price in dollars. Since the pound is worth
about two bucks each, thats a lot of markup.

I remember walking down the streets in Den Haag (The Hague) and seeing
Bass Weeguns in a shop window for three times what they cost here. My US
citizen friends working on assignment in Europe would use their trips to
corporate headquarters for serious shopping trips.

--
Pat
http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html

st2lemans
2007-08-20, 05:40
> The cost of things, especially specialist luxury items like the
> Transporter are higher in the UK (and the rest of Europe to a certain
> extent) because of the following reasons compared to the US:
> Taxes are higher (VAT)
> Taxes are higher (company tax)

Not in Switzerland, we have very low taxes, but the Transporter price is
still way up there compared to the SB3 price (similar to UK pricing).

> And here is the killer point: The transporter can be sold at 1700,
> because thats what the market values it at. If no-one buys it at that
> price, then it will be reduced to the point it does sell.

Time will tell.

Tom

adamslim
2007-08-20, 10:09
Not in Switzerland, we have very low taxes, but the Transporter price is
still way up there compared to the SB3 price (similar to UK pricing).

And the real irony is that Logitech is a Swiss company.

I voted with my feet and bought a different product when I could have got a Transporter. Price was one factor.

Adam

jaysung
2007-08-21, 13:51
The real shame is that for the price the transporter isn't "perfect" and not even close to it as a review quoted on the slimdevices homepage suggests. It's not even ready for sales!!! Switching from the digital inputs to SS again renders the TP completely silent! I know that the bug is being tracked. But I want to see renouned hifi companys deliver a product not being ready.
Don't get me wrong! I love slimserver and thsu just had to get a transporter even knowning that this and perhaps other bugs exist but switching to or from digital inputs is not an exotic scenario for a dac surpassing even the most exotic cd players.
Didn't you test? Didn't you even try it? I mean how the hell could one have over looked such behavior of even a prototype? I really respect the work of engeneering put into the unit but having paid 2,000 Euro for it I think I am in the position to kintly ask you to make your homework asap. Currently running fw 31. Very happy 99% of the time listening to Transporter.

adamslim
2007-08-30, 17:15
http://forums.slimdevices.com/announcement.php?f=2

I must say, it's nice to have sales for those who can get there, but now the Transporter is $1,500 in the US and £1,700 (i.e. almost $3,500) in the UK. Gosh!

[/sour grapes] :)

Adam

tomjtx
2007-08-30, 18:52
http://forums.slimdevices.com/announcement.php?f=2

I must say, it's nice to have sales for those who can get there, but now the Transporter is $1,500 in the US and £1,700 (i.e. almost $3,500) in the UK. Gosh!

[/sour grapes] :)

Adam

Adam , the TP is not 1500.00 in the US.It is only 1500.00 for people who go to the event in Ca.

If I were to buy a TP other than that one day at the BBQ it would be 1999.00.

I do think TP should be cheaper in Europe but some of the price is due to import tax and the dreaded VAT, right?

mvalera
2007-08-30, 19:53
The $1500 transporter is good at the BBQ event only, not online, and only for the 3 hours or so that the event will run.

tomjtx
2007-08-30, 23:29
The $1500 transporter is good at the BBQ event only, not online, and only for the 3 hours or so that the event will run.

hmmmm, I can get a flight from Dallas for 200.00.

Will you or Sean put me up if I play guitar at the BBQ? :-)

(in your new mansions, of course) wait, it's California, 10 million will only get a 1 bedroom out there , never mind :-)

Mad Chemist
2007-08-31, 13:49
The $1500 transporter is good at the BBQ event only, not online, and only for the 3 hours or so that the event will run.

Too bad. $1500 would almost make it an impulse buy for me. How about have a 3 hours online sale that corresponds with the BBQ ;)

James_B
2007-08-31, 14:41
Too bad. $1500 would almost make it an impulse buy for me. How about have a 3 hours online sale that corresponds with the BBQ ;)

Hear hear !

MikeFish
2007-08-31, 15:19
I don't think the taxes etc have anything to do with it as since it was released it was available here for £1300 everywhere and that included the free SB3. After a while the free SB3 deal went but prices were still £1300. It was only after the Logitech deal that prices rose to £1700. Tax hasn't gone up in the last year (I don't think anyway) and if it did it would not make the price rise by 30%

Also I think it's a bit unfair to the guys at Slim for saying that they released a product that didn't work or wasn't ready and to suggest that they hadn't tested it is completely silly. The digital input problem only started when FW31 was introduced, long after the Transporter was first released.

mlsstl
2007-08-31, 19:57
I tried the Transporter under their 30 day offer and just couldn't justify the $2,000 price tag so returned it. But as someone else noted above, at $1,500 it would have been a keeper.

Heck, even now that I'm all settled in with my SB3 and Lavry DA-10, I'd still be real tempted by a $1,500 tag.

Guess that's the old bugaboo in pricing high-end products. It isn't easy to pick that point between maintaining elite snobbishness and the higher volume that comes from a lower price. In my case, $2K was just enough the trip the circuit breaker on my snob limit switch.

ntom
2007-09-06, 13:36
I din't kick off this post with the intention of focussing on value, only to note the apparent price rises in the UK.

As you say taxes have not risen in the last year but the exchange rate has moved in sterling's favour with respect to US purchases.....

....having said that, doing a search today, the only UK prices I can find are back to £1300 so maybe it was a few vendors hoping to make a quick profit....£1300 at least makes it comparable when VAT & duty are considered (to a $2000 US).

As someone else stated in an earlier thread.....a £999 price tag would make it much more attractive in UK. A UK price difference of £1100 on the SB3 would pay for a pretty good hi-end DAC....

Oh well....I guess I should have bought at the beginning when the free SB3 was thrown in....!!

norderney
2007-09-07, 10:42
Being doing some research:

The following web sites are selling the Transporter at £1,299.00
https://www.ripcaster.co.uk/node/71?v=3&gclid=CJmoxu_wsY4CFQnilAodejEMHw

http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/Audio_Car_Gadgets.4/Slim_Devices.23/TRANSPORTER/Slim_Devices_Transporter_Network_Music.1537.html?g clid=CNnG9YDxsY4CFQTtlAodqFEnKA


http://www.mediahome.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=24_32&products_id=58&os&gclid=COnoyonxsY4CFQfklAod0RqCKQ

http://www.superfi.co.uk/index.cfm/page/search.doSearch.cfm?search=squeezebox+OR+transport er

http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/index.php?manufacturers_id=27&gclid=CNmw-9PxsY4CFQvnlAod3HCXIw




The following web sites are selling the Transporter at £1,698.99
http://www.multitask-computing.co.uk/catalog/default.php?cPath=3



And there is STILL no price for the Transporter on http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/

Chris_Zug
2007-09-11, 12:18
Just for info: Logitech now shows the price for the transporter in Europe on their websites:

GBP 1'399.-
EUR 1'999.- (Germany)
CHF 2'999.-

You can´t order it yet...

Cheers,
Chris

haunyack
2007-09-11, 14:02
Being doing some research:


And there is STILL no price for the Transporter on http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/

Interesting -
"Transporter is currently available only through Slim Devices, a Logitech company. Clicking the 'Buy' link will redirect you to the slimdevices.com secure server for purchase."

No more authorized dealers?
I bought my (new) Transporter through an authorized dealer for a substantial saving over the list price.


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JimC
2007-09-11, 22:01
Interesting -
"Transporter is currently available only through Slim Devices, a Logitech company. Clicking the 'Buy' link will redirect you to the slimdevices.com secure server for purchase."

No more authorized dealers?
I bought my (new) Transporter through an authorized dealer for a substantial saving over the list price.

That awkward bit of prose is courtesy of the Logitech corporate web team. Transporters are still available from a range of dealers, around to globe.

What the text should have said was:

Clicking this buy button (the one here on www.logitech.com) will send you over to www.slimdevices.com to complete the purchase.

For reasons related to the internals of Logitech, and therefore not available for public discussion, we haven't integrated their e-commerce system and the one on www.slimdevices.com. The copy is supposed to help explain why you are whisked away upon clicking the buy button.


-=> Jim

James_B
2007-09-12, 08:15
I get "Notify Me" next to the Transporter.. where is my buy button?

mvalera
2007-09-13, 17:17
I just confirmed with EMEA, the Buy buttons will be turned on soon.

if you click on Notify Me and sign up, you will receive an email when it's available.

Mike