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Thomas B. Malsbury
2004-01-12, 08:34
I have decided to bite the bullet and rebuild my library from scratch. I have been using the SlimServer software for about 4 months for remote streaming and it has completely changed the way I interact with my music collection. Based on how much use I get out of the server I have invested in more storage space and a better overall system. P4 1.4 Ghz, 120GB Storage, 512K Ram, Windows 98SE. I am also planning to get a Squeezbox for home use as soon as the budget rebounds from my recent upgrade purchases.

I originally encoded a portion of my music collection (about 250 albums) to mp3's 128K due to storage limitations, I have since added a few more albums to the library at 192K. I used several product to rip the collection so far, Windows Media Player 9.0, MusicMatch 8.0 and MP3Maker 4.11, none of which greatly impressed me.

I now want to rebuild my library to included my entire music collection, and wanted to get some opinions of the best overall product for ripping, tagging and organizing a music collection. I would like to keep this to a single application, but if people have found the overall results to be better using separate programs for each of these tasks I would like to know that too.

I am open to different formats other then mp3 as long as they work with the SlimServer and remote streaming, and fit my entire collection of about 750 albums on the new 120GB drive with room for future additions.

All insight and experiences with these issues would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Malsbury

Jeffrey Gordon
2004-01-12, 09:15
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I would suggest EAC (Exact Audio Copy) with Lame encoder. It will rip, tag
and encode your music. I would suggest using either --preset standard, or
- --preset extreme with the lame encoder.

If you are using Linux I would suggest Grip, it is very much like EAC.

On Monday 12 January 2004 10:34, Thomas B. Malsbury wrote:
> I have decided to bite the bullet and rebuild my library from scratch. I
> have been using the SlimServer software for about 4 months for remote
> streaming and it has completely changed the way I interact with my music
> collection. Based on how much use I get out of the server I have invested
> in more storage space and a better overall system. P4 1.4 Ghz, 120GB
> Storage, 512K Ram, Windows 98SE. I am also planning to get a Squeezbox for
> home use as soon as the budget rebounds from my recent upgrade purchases.
>
> I originally encoded a portion of my music collection (about 250 albums) to
> mp3's 128K due to storage limitations, I have since added a few more albums
> to the library at 192K. I used several product to rip the collection so
> far, Windows Media Player 9.0, MusicMatch 8.0 and MP3Maker 4.11, none of
> which greatly impressed me.
>
> I now want to rebuild my library to included my entire music collection,
> and wanted to get some opinions of the best overall product for ripping,
> tagging and organizing a music collection. I would like to keep this to a
> single application, but if people have found the overall results to be
> better using separate programs for each of these tasks I would like to know
> that too.
>
> I am open to different formats other then mp3 as long as they work with the
> SlimServer and remote streaming, and fit my entire collection of about 750
> albums on the new 120GB drive with room for future additions.
>
> All insight and experiences with these issues would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Tom Malsbury

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Jeffrey D. C. Gordon
jeff (AT) thetank (DOT) org
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Mark A. Aiken
2004-01-12, 12:45
Your collection of 750 albums won't fit on your 120GB drive with what I'm about to suggest, but I'm going to mention it anyway.

It takes me a huge amount of time to rip from CDs, since I've been pretty careless with them and a lot of them are scratched, so I recently decided that I was going to do one final rip pass and rip everything to FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Compression). I'm not claiming FLAC is the absolute best format ever, or that there aren't better lossless formats, but the point is that as encoding standards change, and better lossy formats become available, I will never have to put in the long hours to re-rip my CDs, since I will have a full, exact copy of their contents on my drive.

With disk space approaching $0.50 / GB, ripping to a lossless format is something to consider.

As far as ripping software goes, I humbly submit that EAC is the best ripper on Earth.

Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas B. Malsbury
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Subject: [slim] Encoding Methods & Products To Use?


I have decided to bite the bullet and rebuild my library from scratch. I have been using the SlimServer software for about 4 months for remote streaming and it has completely changed the way I interact with my music collection. Based on how much use I get out of the server I have invested in more storage space and a better overall system. P4 1.4 Ghz, 120GB Storage, 512K Ram, Windows 98SE. I am also planning to get a Squeezbox for home use as soon as the budget rebounds from my recent upgrade purchases.

I originally encoded a portion of my music collection (about 250 albums) to mp3's 128K due to storage limitations, I have since added a few more albums to the library at 192K. I used several product to rip the collection so far, Windows Media Player 9.0, MusicMatch 8.0 and MP3Maker 4.11, none of which greatly impressed me.

I now want to rebuild my library to included my entire music collection, and wanted to get some opinions of the best overall product for ripping, tagging and organizing a music collection. I would like to keep this to a single application, but if people have found the overall results to be better using separate programs for each of these tasks I would like to know that too.

I am open to different formats other then mp3 as long as they work with the SlimServer and remote streaming, and fit my entire collection of about 750 albums on the new 120GB drive with room for future additions.

All insight and experiences with these issues would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Malsbury


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Ray Fortna
2004-01-12, 14:29
Using FLAC I am able to store 320 albums in about 110GB.

I totally agree with Mark, I never want to have to rip my CD collection from
actual CDs ever again. It took a looong time. I would argue that the time
it took to rip all my CDs was the largest investment I made in my whole
media server, squeeze box setup.

Ray


----- Original Message -----
From: Mark A. Aiken
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: [slim] Encoding Methods & Products To Use?


Your collection of 750 albums won't fit on your 120GB drive with what
I'm about to suggest, but I'm going to mention it anyway.

It takes me a huge amount of time to rip from CDs, since I've been
pretty careless with them and a lot of them are scratched, so I recently
decided that I was going to do one final rip pass and rip everything to FLAC
(Free Lossless Audio Compression). I'm not claiming FLAC is the absolute
best format ever, or that there aren't better lossless formats, but the
point is that as encoding standards change, and better lossy formats become
available, I will never have to put in the long hours to re-rip my CDs,
since I will have a full, exact copy of their contents on my drive.

With disk space approaching $0.50 / GB, ripping to a lossless format is
something to consider.

As far as ripping software goes, I humbly submit that EAC is the best
ripper on Earth.

Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas B. Malsbury
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 7:34 AM
Subject: [slim] Encoding Methods & Products To Use?


I have decided to bite the bullet and rebuild my library from scratch. I
have been using the SlimServer software for about 4 months for remote
streaming and it has completely changed the way I interact with my music
collection. Based on how much use I get out of the server I have invested
in more storage space and a better overall system. P4 1.4 Ghz, 120GB
Storage, 512K Ram, Windows 98SE. I am also planning to get a Squeezbox for
home use as soon as the budget rebounds from my recent upgrade purchases.

I originally encoded a portion of my music collection (about 250 albums) to
mp3's 128K due to storage limitations, I have since added a few more albums
to the library at 192K. I used several product to rip the collection so
far, Windows Media Player 9.0, MusicMatch 8.0 and MP3Maker 4.11, none of
which greatly impressed me.

I now want to rebuild my library to included my entire music collection, and
wanted to get some opinions of the best overall product for ripping, tagging
and organizing a music collection. I would like to keep this to a single
application, but if people have found the overall results to be better using
separate programs for each of these tasks I would like to know that too.

I am open to different formats other then mp3 as long as they work with the
SlimServer and remote streaming, and fit my entire collection of about 750
albums on the new 120GB drive with room for future additions.

All insight and experiences with these issues would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Malsbury