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shadowboxer
2007-06-27, 12:48
Friday, like a stupid old fool, standing in line at the AT&T store.....

Anyway,
posting here to let all know that I will as one of the first things try it out as a slimserver remote!! I can't wait to see how the safari browser works with the slimserver.

-dale

EnochLight
2007-06-27, 21:17
I can't wait to see how the safari browser works with the slimserver.


From what I've read (especially in the David Pogue/New York Times review), using it via WiFi is very fast so it should work nicely as a Slim remote. However, AT&T's Edge network is absolute ass, as you can wait in upwards of 100+ seconds for some pages to render. That's slower than a Windows 95 box on dial-up over 10 years ago!

Bottom line is: browsing the web in a WiFi hotspot is awesome. Browsing via AT&T's Edge network anywhere that you can actually obtain a signal on AT&T's craptastic network is like pouring lemon juice into a paper cut.

I've also read phone-call quality is "meh", and that it takes up to 6 inputs just to make a phone call. Way to go Apple!

Still, I'd like to have one too... if for anything the cool-factor. ;-P

Eric Seaberg
2007-06-27, 21:59
I've used my BlackBerry to control SS over AT&T (Cingular) EDGE without too many problems. EDGE isn't really that bad... it's certainly better than a 56k modem!!

Regnad
2007-06-27, 23:13
I use a Nokia N800 and it's great but won't handle Squeezenetwork and Pandora. Will the iPhone?

It has no flash or java, right?

I am trying to talk myself out of getting one. Can you help?

crapulent
2007-06-27, 23:19
No flash or java. Lots of hype and geek lust, and yes I might buy one.

On 6/27/07, Regnad <Regnad.2svjr01183011302 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
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> Pandora. Will the iPhone?
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> I am trying to talk myself out of getting one. Can you help?
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mherger
2007-06-27, 23:22
> I use a Nokia N800 and it's great but won't handle Squeezenetwork and

What's wrong with it on Squeezenetwork?

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EnochLight
2007-06-27, 23:28
EDGE isn't really that bad... it's certainly better than a 56k modem!!

I'd say that's a stretch... ;-) Seriously though, Blackberry's browser compared to iPhone's full HTML Safari is like night and day. That said, iPhone's speed over Edge is probably related to the fact that it's rendering pages in all their glory..sans Flash and Java, that is... :-(

crapulent
2007-06-27, 23:35
There are some huge holes in that glory without Flash and Java. (sad glory
hole joke, couldn't resist)

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> Eric Seaberg;211326 Wrote:
> > EDGE isn't really that bad... it's certainly better than a 56k modem!!
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> I'd say that's a stretch... ;-) Seriously though, Blackberry's
> browser compared to iPhone's full HTML Safari is like night and day.
> That said, iPhone's speed over Edge is probably related to the fact
> that it's rendering pages in all their glory..sans Flash and Java, that
> is... :-(
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bklaas
2007-06-28, 07:23
> I use a Nokia N800 and it's great but won't handle Squeezenetwork and

What's wrong with it on Squeezenetwork?



The current released version of Slimserver cannot control Squeezenetwork via the web interface. That won't be any different on any skin or any browser. If the iPhone can do it, it truly is a magical device.

cheers,
#!/ben

mherger
2007-06-28, 07:31
> The current released version of Slimserver cannot control
> Squeezenetwork via the web interface.

Hmmm... what about http://www.squeezenetwork.com - no need for slimserver.

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azinck3
2007-06-28, 07:35
The current released version of Slimserver cannot control Squeezenetwork via the web interface. That won't be any different on any skin or any browser. If the iPhone can do it, it truly is a magical device.

cheers,
#!/ben

But isn't Michael asking about squeezenetwork.com? The N800 works fine there, right?

edit: just saw Michael's post

bklaas
2007-06-28, 07:47
> The current released version of Slimserver cannot control
> Squeezenetwork via the web interface.

Hmmm... what about http://www.squeezenetwork.com - no need for slimserver.


I was assuming the original poster was talking about controlling squeezenetwork from the Nokia770 skin. I'm also going to act like I knew about squeezenetwork.com ;)

cheers,
#!/ben

shadowboxer
2007-06-28, 08:24
No flash or java. Lots of hype and geek lust, and yes I might buy one.



Indeed. I am a smartphone geek from way back (sph-i300, sph-i330, sph-i500, HTC Universal, HTC Hermes, PPC 6700, and finally treo 650)

I agree, some glaring holes in the overall picture, many of which I am hoping Apple will patch up with software updates, but oh the utlimate geeky glory of the device is just too much to resist..... :-D

funkstar
2007-06-28, 13:26
but oh the utlimate geeky glory of the device is just too much to resist..... :-D
I dissagree. Geeks know when a phone is a load of old tosh with a distinct lack of features that are used every day by thousands, or indeed millions of people.

What the iPhone _doesn't_ have:
Songs as Ringtones
Games
Any flash support
Instant Messaging
Picture messages (MMS)
Video recording
Voice recognition or voice dialing
Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP)
One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones)

Stuff we already knew it didn't have
3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)
GPS
A real keyboard
Removable battery
Expandable Storage
Direct iTunes Music Store Access (Over Wi-Fi or EDGE)

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/what-the-iphone-doesnt-have-272571.php

Apple programmers are just amazing! Their software takes up 700MB of the 8GB storage on the thing and it _still_ misses out on those features!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/iphone-facts-from-the-first-reviews/

pfft!

4mula1
2007-06-28, 13:35
And it has a built in SIM for your convenience. I'll pass. If I can't SIM swap it's not welcome in my house.

My Siemens SX1 may be long in the tooth now, but the iPhone isn't going to be it's replacement. Perhaps the N95 when the cost becomes a bit more reasonable...

peter
2007-06-28, 23:30
4mula1 wrote:
> And it has a built in SIM for your convenience. I'll pass. If I can't
> SIM swap it's not welcome in my house.
>
> My Siemens SX1 may be long in the tooth now, but the iPhone isn't going
> to be it's replacement. Perhaps the N95 when the cost becomes a bit
> more reasonable...
>

The iPhone seems like a pretty dumbed down smartphone indeed.
I'm still holding out for the E90, any day now... ;)
Or is this now Nokia spam?

http://www.nokia.com/link?cid=PLAIN_TEXT_118960

Regards,
Peter

GoCubs
2007-07-02, 09:26
I've been anxiously waiting for someone to post their experience using an iPhone with SlimServer... anyone!?!?

I like my 770, but having something "always on" and almost always in arms reach would be much more useful.

-Greg

tyler_durden
2007-07-02, 15:57
You don't need to wait, just use your imagination. Switch to the appropriate skin on slimserver. Take a screenshot and print it at scale to match the size of the apple display. Now try to imagine reading the text and touching the hot spots on that small screen.

It may be a cool device, but controlling slimserver with it isn't a good reason to buy it.

TD

peejay
2007-07-02, 17:12
Yes, the iPhone is enjoying somewhat more hype than it may deserve, although it is high on 'cool factor'. They aren't being released here in Australia until sometime next year, by which time I suspect the honeymoon will be over to some degree for a lot of users, although the die-hard Apple followers will stay romantically attached for longer I suspect. I recently purchased an 8 Gig Nokia N91, which functions as a wireless remote via the browser to my SB3 admirably, and is also a great music player, phone, diary, IM client, 3G phone, etc etc.

EnochLight
2007-07-02, 18:32
And it has a built in SIM for your convenience. I'll pass. If I can't SIM swap it's not welcome in my house.

Not true. The iPhone's SIM slot is located at the top and it can be ejected with a paperclip. Current AT&T SIM's will work in it, as a matter of fact - after the phone is activated.

GoCubs
2007-07-03, 08:44
You don't need to wait, just use your imagination. Switch to the appropriate skin on slimserver. Take a screenshot and print it at scale to match the size of the apple display. Now try to imagine reading the text and touching the hot spots on that small screen.

It may be a cool device, but controlling slimserver with it isn't a good reason to buy it.

TD
LOL. Well the screen size/etc are similar to that of a Nokia 770 (4.1 vs 3.5). I find the 770 useful but the browser crashes a lot and I usually don't have it powered up or in arms reach so it ends up not being used that often. With the iPhone it'll automatically connect to wifi and always be on and nearby so I think I'd get a lot more use of it with SlimServer. I played with the iPhone in a store and the browser seemed pretty slick and handled zooming/scrolling very well. Unfortunately the Apple store I went to had ran out of 8GB models 5minutes before I got there. I could have easily picked one up over the weekend but I wanted to wait on reviews before buying.

Sure it's an expensive toy, but combining my phone and ipod into one saves me from lugging/charging two devices (and chargers) everywhere and web browsing would come in handy at times and have the added bonus as a SB remote...

-Greg

EnochLight
2007-07-03, 21:21
I just picked up a 4 gig today. I would have got an 8 but they sold out 5 minutes before I made it to the store... :-(

That said...it freak'n rocks! Works perfect as a Slim remote and switches to WiFi seemlessly. Best smartphone I have ever used.

Regnad
2007-07-03, 22:06
What skin are you using? Tablet, default or...?

EnochLight
2007-07-04, 20:50
What skin are you using? Tablet, default or...?

I've tried default and "Touch". Both work fine, but "Touch" is a little weird - can't scroll all the way down my playlist for some reason. Default works fine though, you just have to zoom in to select the links accurately.

The iPhone is actually quite brilliant in the way that it handles WiFi - it's off when you are out of range, but as soon as you get within an approved WiFi signal (or freebie that doesn't require a WEP), it hitches on. If there is a WEP key needed, you can set it up and then it will hitch on automatically when in range. Walk out of range and it switches to Edge.

It's a very handy Squeezebox remote, though not a sole purpose for buying an iPhone. That said, the iPhone is probably the best gadget I have bought since my Squeezebox!

;-)

GoCubs
2007-07-05, 08:32
I've tried default and "Touch". Both work fine, but "Touch" is a little weird - can't scroll all the way down my playlist for some reason. Default works fine though, you just have to zoom in to select the links accurately.

The iPhone is actually quite brilliant in the way that it handles WiFi - it's off when you are out of range, but as soon as you get within an approved WiFi signal (or freebie that doesn't require a WEP), it hitches on. If there is a WEP key needed, you can set it up and then it will hitch on automatically when in range. Walk out of range and it switches to Edge.

It's a very handy Squeezebox remote, though not a sole purpose for buying an iPhone. That said, the iPhone is probably the best gadget I have bought since my Squeezebox!

;-)
Great info, thanks for the post. You might want to try the Nokia770 skin to see if it works better, although these days the Touch and 770 skin look quite alike and I'm not sure what's even different other than maybe some spacing.

-Greg

bklaas
2007-07-05, 08:43
Great info, thanks for the post. You might want to try the Nokia770 skin to see if it works better, although these days the Touch and 770 skin look quite alike and I'm not sure what's even different other than maybe some spacing.

-Greg

there may actually be a big difference between Nokia770 and Touch on the iPhone. The major difference between the two skins is in CSS (most of the other code comes from literally the same files), and the described issue sounds very much like a CSS issue. I'll be interested to hear how the iPhone works with Nokia770. Or you could just send me yours and I'll try it ;)

cheers,
#!/ben

EnochLight
2007-07-05, 20:59
Or you could just send me yours and I'll try it ;)


Heheh, I'm not kidding when I say my iPhone is probably the best gadget I've purchased since my Squeezebox - it really is *THAT* cool. I'm no Apple fanboy either - I'm on a PC in fact and the only other Apple product I own is a 60 Gig iPod Photo that I use in my car (and with an Altec Lansing iM7 boombox in the yard).

I find myself surfing the web more comfortably than any other handheld device I've tried. I did buy the Nokia 880 when it first came out, but promptly returned it as I found the restriction of just WiFi an issue. That said, although Edge is *DIRT* slow (some pages take up to 100 seconds to load fully), I do enjoy the WiFi intelligence behind the iPhone. The auto-switching and smart search (while reserving power) is just brilliant and works seemlessly.

Anyway, your 770 skin works nicely on the iPhone, but it's not without a few caveats. First of all, and I'm not sure if you remember my review of your 770 skin on the PSP, but I seem to experience those line breaks while scrolling down again. I don't have a camera handy to take a shot of my iPhone yet, but look at my old PSP review shot to see what I mean.

Also, since it was originally formatted for the Nokia 770 (and filled the screen nicely on said device, as well as the 880), it displays on the iPhone nicely but obviously appears slightly smaller since the iPhone's screen is smaller. Although you can zoom in with finger gestures, it's one more thing you have to do compared to the 770/880. That said, the convenience and ass-kicking coolness of the iPhone's touchscreen is light years ahead of the 770/880.

Plus it's an iPod Video (nano), cell phone, personal data assistant, and portable *ANYWHERE* web device - always in my pocket and ready to go. ;-)

The last caveat is that there is no way to place a shortcut for Slimserver on, say, the iPhone's main screen to launch Safari right into it. You have to hit the Safari icon, then hit your favorites, type in the first couple of letters of whatever you named your Slimserver favorite, it pops into the address bar, and then select it to go there.

Whew!

Ahhh well, no biggie - it's still kick ass. ;-)

shadowboxer
2007-07-20, 06:57
Stood in line, the last 8 gb went to the guy in front of me. Ordered it from att direct, got it 6 days later. Have had it for 2 weeks now. I know, it has shortcomings, some things left off, as were mentioned in an earler post, but what it DOES do is so brilliantly and beautifully implemented, that I have missed none of the things it lacks. I haven't even thought of going back to my treo 650.

Anyway, how does it work as a slimserver remote? FANTASTIC! I use it on the default skin. It is quick to load, easy to mag up the area you want to see with the finger gesture. The screen on this phone is so detailed and bright and the phone renders so very quickly.

Here is what I want to do. I am going to try to do one of these "U tube" videos of the iphone in action as a slimserver remote and I will come back and post a link here. Wish me luck.

-dale

Regnad
2007-08-14, 17:58
Resurrecting this...

I've had the phone for a while now (what a gadget!) and it's good with handheld, touch and default skins.

Just wondering if there was anything now or in the works that would work better on it.

Thanks.

funkstar
2007-08-15, 11:46
i think there is quite a bit of skin development going into SS 7. There may not be anything specific for the iPhone, but if more advanced skins are being produced, it should be able to handle them just fine too.

I wouldn't be surprised to see an iPhone specific skin, considering the popularity of the device, especailly with the technology crowd.

Regnad
2007-08-15, 14:08
Thanks...

Is there a way to see the features and release timeline of the SS7 release?

mvalera
2007-08-15, 14:46
Yes, in the developers discussion area. Sticky with the title of...

Updated SlimServer 7.0 Spec with Schedule (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36733)

Mike

Regnad
2007-08-15, 18:10
I'll follow this and look forward to Oct. 8th.

Thanks.