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qbaser
2007-06-15, 00:20
Hello. I have searched the forums for a definitive answer but cant seem to find it.

I want to use my Pocket PC running WM5 to stream my slimserver to my pocket PC.

Can anyone tell me please, what URL do I enter into the device and also what software do I download to do this? Has anyone managed to successfully stream to a device like this yet?

Thanks
Al

Mark Lanctot
2007-06-15, 06:15
http://<slimserver IP address>:9000/stream.mp3

Use your internal IP address if you're on your own network. If you're trying to connect from outside, you have to use remote streaming:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RemoteStreaming

Not sure whether it will work at all though, I've never tried it. WMP on the PocketPC is pretty stripped-down.

qbaser
2007-06-15, 08:57
Thanks for that info Mark. Well it doesnt seem to work with Windows media player. Can i get an application that will support remote streaming?

Thanks
Al

Mark Lanctot
2007-06-15, 09:23
Are you sure you have your server IP address right? Can you stream to another PC on your network?

Ramage
2007-06-16, 00:29
Thanks for that info Mark. Well it doesnt seem to work with Windows media player. Can i get an application that will support remote streaming?

I use GSplayer on my Dell X50v. Download from here:

http://www.freewareppc.com/multimedia/gsplayer.shtml

Follow the instructions to connect to slimserver as if you were using winamp - http://"slimserveraddress":9000/stream.mp3.

Substitute "slimserveraddress" with your slimserver IP address in the above url, (eg 192.168.1.100).

I would recommend you test using local network connection before trying external access.

You can of course use GSplayer to listen to any compatible internet radio stream.

qbaser
2007-06-16, 06:09
hey thanks a lot for that info.

well,I downloaded gsplayer and opened URL http://(myIP):9000/stream.mp3 still not streaming.
can u tell me what is meant to happen,I.e. is the gs player supposed to display a list of my albums etc.(in same way as the handheld skin) ?


also if I'm doing this remotely,what IP address do I put in,I mean where do I find this? I have seen an ip address at the foot of the slimserver page it says my IP is 80.192.83.158:31525

so for remote streaming do I then enter http://80.192.83.158:31525:9000/stream.mp3 ? or do I remove the 9000 ?

I can however successfully connect to slimserver using GSplayer on my network,I.e. http://192.168.2.5:9000/stream.mp3 however can't play any songs although it does say connected to slimserver?

sorry for ll the questions but pleased to get your input again.

Thanks
Al

Mark Lanctot
2007-06-16, 07:47
also if I'm doing this remotely,what IP address do I put in,I mean where do I find this? I have seen an ip address at the foot of the slimserver page it says my IP is 80.192.83.158:31525

That's your public IP address (?) Not sure why SlimServer should be displaying it unless you have your computer directly connected to the Internet, i.e. not through a router, which is a bad idea for security purposes.


so for remote streaming do I then enter http://80.192.83.158:31525:9000/stream.mp3 ? or do I remove the 9000 ?

You'd remove the "31525" but keep the 9000. And you should only use this from outside your local network.


I can however successfully connect to slimserver using GSplayer on my network,I.e. http://192.168.2.5:9000/stream.mp3 however can't play any songs although it does say connected to slimserver?

Strange - where did you get that IP address from? Now it looks like you have a router because that's a non-public, reserved IP address. Not sure why SlimServer would be displaying your public IP address then?

But anyway, if you get a "Welcome to SlimServer" message then you have to go to SlimServer and press your browser refresh button. Your player should be listed in "Player Settings" by its IP address, i.e. "Player Settings for 192.168.2.10" or something. If you click on Player Settings for that player you can give it a more descriptive name and change some of the settings. You can then make a playlist for it by selecting it on the right - make sure you select it using the drop-down list on the upper right corner.

Press play on the player, then press play on SlimServer. You might have to reverse the order of these two.

autopilot
2007-06-16, 12:34
Stop!

I went down this road last year. Trying to do it with Slimserver is a pain but there is a much better way and it gives you full control over whats being streamed...

Install a UPNP server on you PC, i recommend www.tversity.com and it's free.

Next get http://www.conduits.com/products/player/ It's not free, but its well worth the money and by far the best media player for Windows Mobile. You will probably need the UPNP plugin that can be found on the conduits site.

Trust me, it just works and it's flipping brilliant. You can browse by album, artist etc. Much better than trying to fudge Slimserver. Turns your PDA into a portable Squeezebox (kinda).

Enjoy :)

qbaser
2007-06-21, 08:54
Well thanks Autopilot, I downloaded both those softwares and installed. Trouble is I still cant get the Mobile Player to play anything.

I type in http://(myIP):9000/stream.mp3 and it says connected to slim server. That bit seems ok. But then when i click on browse for music, there is nothing there, this is despite having both slimserver and TVersity running?

Am I meant to do something else?

Ive read the instructions but still cant make sense, hope someone can please help me.

Thanks
Al

p.s. I should also mention that I cannot stream any music from my laptop either (when i type http://192.168.2.5:9000/stream.mp3 ). all that happens is a download box appears and starts downloading stuff?

Al

autopilot
2007-06-21, 10:28
Well thanks Autopilot, I downloaded both those softwares and installed. Trouble is I still cant get the Mobile Player to play anything.

I type in http://(myIP):9000/stream.mp3 and it says connected to slim server. That bit seems ok. But then when i click on browse for music, there is nothing there, this is despite having both slimserver and TVersity running?

Am I meant to do something else?

Ive read the instructions but still cant make sense, hope someone can please help me.

Thanks
Al

p.s. I should also mention that I cannot stream any music from my laptop either (when i type http://192.168.2.5:9000/stream.mp3 ). all that happens is a download box appears and starts downloading stuff?

Al

Right, forget slimserver. You dont need it for this, it's just confusing matters. And forget about all this connecting to a http ://***.***.***/stream.mp3 business. You don't need to do this either. It's not how UPNP works and it would be crap anyway as you would always have to change the track/album via the server.

Assuming that your PDA connects to your PC via you network perfectly fine (tested this?), you simply just need to have TVersity running. TVersity will need pointing to you music folders like Slimserver does to build a library (TVersity has a web config page like Slimserver does. point you web browser to http://localhost:41952/). You will probably also need to setup up for fire wall. In theory, TVersity should now be broadcasting on the network and any UPNP clients should be able to automatically detect it and connect.

Have you made sure you have conduits setup for UPNP? Download and install the UPNP plugin from here - http://www.conduits.com/products/player/plugins.asp

Now, if everything is working correctly and you have a connection to your PC, you should just simply be able to go in Browse->Network->select the UPNP server. Then you will see option for Music, album, artist etc.

Remember, TVersity is just one of many UPNP servers out there. Try others like Windows Media Player 11 too, but Tversity is better as it has good trancoding etc.

qbaser
2007-06-22, 09:58
excellent! I got it working now,seems I had forgotton t download the udp plugin for pocket player.

Now, I have it working on my own network using the wifi feature of my phone...the songs stream to my cario 2 phone very well. but can u tell me is it possible to stream via my phones broadband connection (i have unlimited web n walk pro)? I switced off my phones wifi and opened a URL http://80.192.82.153:41952 (note not my real IP on this forum post!)but nothing would happen,no files to browse? is this possible to do? do I have to enter something different as a URL?

thanks for the help again
Al

autopilot
2007-06-23, 01:22
Nice one, it's pretty good is'nt it. Glad you got it working, enjoy :)

Streaming outside of my home network via the net is not something i have done. You might have more luck on the Conduits forum or TVersity's. Let us know how you get on.

qbaser
2007-06-23, 05:35
I went on the conduits forum and search in entirety but nothing relevant to remote streaming. Im sure it must be possible as my broadband on the phone is very fast.

If anyone finds out how to do this I wld be glad to hear from you.

Thanks again Autopilot. That pocket player ap is boss!

Al

qbaser
2007-06-24, 16:12
anyone know if remote streaming is possible using pocket player on wm5 pocket pc?

qbaser
2007-07-09, 03:49
I got remote streaming working but not with slimserver. Instead I downloaded ORB, its free too. and on my PDA I type in http://mycast.orb.com and I can use my gpra connection from anywhere to stream directly to my phone from my home PC.

works great.

nspindel
2007-12-27, 20:34
Hey, thanks for all the great info. I downloaded GSPlayer and connected straight into SlimServer no problem. Managing SlimServer through the browser and it seems to work just fine.

Only problem I'm having is that I can't get GSPlayer to work if I have my SlimServer password protected. If I leave my SlimServer unprotected, it works great. But if I put a password on, I don't get a promt from GSPlayer to enter the uname/password. I really don't want to leave my SlimServer wide open. Anyone know a workaround?

Otherwise, this is incredibly cool. So far just testing it through home wi-fi, can't wait to see how it does out on the street. iPod going to be collecting dust soon....

nspindel
2008-01-08, 18:31
Any takers?

Looking for a Windows Mobile player that will support username and password on the stream...

radish
2008-01-08, 20:33
Pocket player? (http://www.conduits.com/products/player/) - I've seen people say it works with authenticated streams.

nspindel
2008-01-09, 11:58
cool, thanks - I'll give it a try...

Mark Lanctot
2008-01-11, 07:51
Use your user name and password in the URL, see point 7:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RemoteStreaming

nspindel
2008-01-12, 21:48
Ah, that will work with GSPlayer on a pocket pc?

Mark Lanctot
2008-01-15, 09:08
It should - you just type in the URL.

esbenr
2008-11-30, 08:16
Okey. At first lets get something straight.
The URL: http://squeezecenter:9000/stream.mp3 does NOT go into the address bar of the browser. If you do that the browser will try to download the stream as an .mp3 file.

1. Open WMP, select File -> Open URL and put the url here
2. The WMP appears in the SqueezeCenter with the PCs IP address in the name
Now the player is registered in SqueezeCenter.
3. Select the player in SqueezeCenter and start some playing
Note: Nothing will happen here.
4. Go to WMP and open the same URL again (just like refreshing)
Now you will get playing and you will be able to se the player is playing in SqueezeCenter too.

The reason why this is so diffycult is the way that WMP hooks up on a stream.
WMP could hook on to any stream at any time. SqueezeCenter cannot remtely control WMP like it can with the Squeezebox Reciever and so on. (Unfortunatly)

Now to the Windows Mobile edition of the Windows Media PLayer.
This doesent work. M$ has narrowed the mobile WMP so much down so it doesent take a stream by the name *.mp3. (How stupid is that?)
Use GS PLayer as earlier recommended in thes thread og VLC or what do i know.
At the moment im working on at SqueezeBoxPlayer for Windows Mobile that is 100% controllable - just like the Squeezebox Reciever AND that has acctual control panel. - So its Player-and-controller-in-one. But im still struggling with the part about reading and playing a stream since M$ didnt make that part ease trough the Compact Framework.

BTW: Forgot to write: This works outside my networks too.
I have a public IP and a domain pointed to this, so now i can just type: http://my.domain:9000/stream.mp3 from any media player on any computer and have all my mysic, podcasts 'n stuff brought to me. It allso works on the go. (Using 3G).
Even on my iPhone... Download a app for internetradio, enter the URL. (you can use the iPhone Squeezebox Controller app "iPeng" to controll your SqueezeCenter.

So as you see, successfully, im going for one complete solution not several systems/programs to stream my audio.

tamanaco
2008-11-30, 14:44
At the moment im working on at SqueezeBoxPlayer for Windows Mobile that is 100% controllable - just like the Squeezebox Reciever AND that has acctual control panel. - So its Player-and-controller-in-one. But im still struggling with the part about reading and playing a stream since M$ didnt make that part ease trough the Compact Framework.


Is this a Windows Mobile player that you're building from scratch? I thought that I'd see a port of Squeezeplay to the Windows Mobile platform before I saw and independent player. A player like Squeezeplay for WM with a built-in SSH client would solve all my problems as I'd rather avoid exposing unsecure ports at the router. Sometimes I open the SC port and use Conduit's Pocketplayer on my 3G Smartphone while I'm away to connect to the stream.mp3 interface of my server. I then use the mobile Web UI of the server via PIE to either start one of my favorite playlist or to enable SugarCube and then click on one song and let it do its thing. Once the stream is started is a bit frustrating as there is not much one can do via the Pocketplayer to control the stream. I only do this when I'm stuck at of one my client's sites as they don't allow me to bring my laptop or to connect to their Local network. I use SoftSqueeze from my laptop from most other remote places.

amgalitz
2008-11-30, 16:02
esbenr

I eagerly await your WM equivalent to 'softsqueeze'. I have a Dell Axim x50v and am seriously considering switching to the HTC TouchHD when it gets more widely available. I would pay for an app that ran on Windows Mobile for PDA and smartphones that would give sqeezebox functionality. These devices have robust screens.

cheers

vinnielo
2008-12-01, 00:11
Okey. At first lets get something straight.
The URL: http://squeezecenter:9000/stream.mp3 does NOT go into the address bar of the browser. If you do that the browser will try to download the stream as an .mp3 file.

I've not tried this, but http://squeezecenter:9000/stream.mp3.m3u generally works for other mp3 streams.
I'm personally a fan of using TCPMP as the media player on my Axim.

tamanaco
2008-12-01, 06:52
I'm personally a fan of using TCPMP as the media player on my Axim.

I was also a long time fan of TCPMP for Smartphones and PDAs, but it has not been updated in quite some time. I switched CorePlayer some time ago because it has a much improved interface which includes a very nice YouTube video search interface. Recently, I also installed Conduit PocketPlayer. This player has a Scrobbler plugin and has a menu called "Web Guide" that allows you to easily navigate and search all Shoutcast Internet stations, Podcast directories and MP3 Blogs. It works great with a 3G connection.

lrossouw
2008-12-01, 10:39
anybody say port squeezeplay to wm?

let me know if anyone is doing this!

tamanaco
2008-12-01, 11:47
anybody say port squeezeplay to wm?

let me know if anyone is doing this!

The last time I heard about a Windows Mobile port of Squeezeplay was in the thread below. At the time, the SD folks did not have plans to do so, but were open to volunteers.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52828&highlight=squeezeplay+mobile

tamanaco
2008-12-18, 09:57
I just installed the Pandora Mobile client 1.0.25 on my AT&T Smartphone and it works well. The Thumbs-up and Thumbs-down functionality along with your personalized stations are there. I'd only recommended this client to folks with 3G phone and with unlimited data plans. You can find the client for Pandora Mobile for AT&T and Sprint phones here: http://www.pandora.com/on-the-go