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mvalera
2007-06-12, 15:27
Hey Kids!

We're looking for a bit of help with some basic questions about how everyone is using their Slim Devices products.

Please take a minute to answer the poll above, and feel free to give us more detail below.

Thanks!

Mike

mrfantasy
2007-06-12, 15:43
I mean 100% rounding up. It's like 99%. I haven't looked at SqueezeNetwork in quite a while.

aubuti
2007-06-12, 15:49
Similar here. I voted 100% SS, but it's more like 96.7%. When I first got the SB I listened to SN more, but then I went out and bought a lot more music to add to my collection and I'm listening to that a lot more.

Siduhe
2007-06-12, 16:20
Similar here. I voted 100% SS, but it's more like 96.7%.

About 95% here - Radio 5 for 20 mins in the morning, and Jonathan Ross on Radio 2 on a Saturday. Thinking about it, we could use AlienBBC for both of those, but tend to use SN.

Otherwise, Slimserver all the way (with about 8,500 tracks, we tend not to run out of music to listen too).

haunyack
2007-06-12, 16:21
A possible side effect of owning a Transporter is the fact that I've since purchased the equivalent of 3X the cost of the Transporter itself on new music.

Another curse of a nicely resolving system...anything other than high bitrate/depth quality recording tends to suck.
Therefore, I've abandoned all else except my ripped music.

S'ok ... I'm loving it.

.

Pale Blue Ego
2007-06-12, 19:46
I voted 100% but it's more like 95%. The internet features are important, and I love the variety, but they are still a small amount of total listening. I do listen to podcasts every night, but have migrated to storing the ones I like on the hard drive and playing them locally rather than connecting thru the net.

(bashpodder+cron)

Skunk
2007-06-12, 20:19
I'll have the 100% SlimServed FLACburger please.

The sound quality advantage over internet radio is what makes my socks roll up and down, even though 37% of my listening is while asleep/inattentive.

mherger
2007-06-12, 23:22
As the most interesting services aren't available over here on the old continent, there's little motivation to switch over to SQN. I did use it for the 90 days Pandora trial. But that's no longer an option for us.

)p(
2007-06-13, 00:01
As the most interesting services aren't available over here on the old continent, there's little motivation to switch over to SQN. I did use it for the 90 days Pandora trial. But that's no longer an option for us.

Indeed, I mostly now use squeezenetwork to show the clock when I don't play music through slimserver.

I love the idea of squezenetwork though. For most people with services like Rhapsody you would not even need slimserver...just plug in and play the music you want!

petef

mflint
2007-06-13, 00:07
I mean 100% rounding up. It's like 99%. I haven't looked at SqueezeNetwork in quite a while.
<aol>Yep, me too.</aol>

funkstar
2007-06-13, 01:36
Seems i'm with a few of the others. About 95% useing SlimServer, the rest using Squeezenetwork.

I do eventually intend setting up a SB3 at my parents with all my music on mp3tunes through squeezenetwork, but that has to wait for funds.

SN is a saviour when i need to do work on my media box that runs SS :)

Ksie
2007-06-13, 04:51
I have two SBoxes. One is plugged into my main listening rig, the other is in my gym (that would be my garage). I run SlimServer off a ReadyNAS. Since my listening on the main stereo is limited to weekends, I shut the NAS down Sunday night through Friday evening. Thus when I'm in the garage I'm often listening to SqueezeNetwork. I guess 75 SS, 25 SN. That would change if I start exercising more!

Am really looking hard at the MP3 Locker, for SN listening, but it sounds like uploading is a big chore.

nicketynick
2007-06-13, 05:47
Indeed, I mostly now use squeezenetwork to show the clock when I don't play music through slimserver.

I love the idea of squezenetwork though. For most people with services like Rhapsody you would not even need slimserver...just plug in and play the music you want!

petef

You might need to filter out the responses from non-US listeners. I also am 99% SS, mostly because the best parts of SN aren't available to me!

Siduhe
2007-06-13, 06:34
You might need to filter out the responses from non-US listeners. I also am 99% SS, mostly because the best parts of SN aren't available to me!

Same here - if Last.fm or equivilent non-US service was available on SN, then my split would be closer to 70%SS / 30%SN.

stevek1006
2007-06-13, 06:35
I voted 75% Slimserver. Lately, I have been listening to SqueezeNetwork more mostly to get access to Pandora. I might well listen to SqueezeNetwork more if it were more transparent through the web interface (my SqueezeBox is in the Basement), but switching between the two is less than elegant right now. Hopefully, this will change with version 7.

SMWinnie
2007-06-13, 08:54
100% local now. Tried Pandora and bailed before the trial subscription ran out.

Furry
2007-06-13, 09:10
I'm a 75% SN, 25% SS. I listen mainly to Radio Paradise and Soma FM Groovesalad.

This is because:

a) I haven't ripped all of my CDs yet - only done about 20.
b) I like the variety of music played on the internet radio stations (i.e. plenty that I don't have / haven't heard before).
c) My ripped music and slimserver is currently on my laptop. I have a QNAP on order, so things might change when I have that (if it ever arrives).
d) My laptop and wireless access point don't get along too well, which interrupts the music more often than I'd like. Problems here seem to be WPA re-authentication and Zyxel 660HW AP and Intel 2200BG chip (FSC laptop) not playing together properly.

I hope this survey isn't a case-builder for pulling Squeezenetwork!

Dave.

maggior
2007-06-13, 09:30
I voted 25% SN 75% SlimServer, but it is more like 10%SN 90%SS.

I find that I use SN when guests come over. I have a subscription to Pandora that I use occasionally.

Though I don't use SN much, I would miss it if it wasn't there. For me it is a nice substitute to subscribing to satellite radio.

Keith
2007-06-13, 09:51
I voted 100% SS but that's not quite correct as I do use SN when the PC is off. I would go with 95%SS and 5%SN.

I like the option of SN as the PC is quite noisy when running so it makes sense at night.

I would like to be able to use SN with an alarm function as since moving to a RAID drive i cannot use the hibernate function on the PC so have been without the SB on mornings.

EnochLight
2007-06-13, 09:53
I'm in the US here with 2 Squeezebox 3's. I spend probably 75% of my time on Slimserver, but spend the other 25% on SqueezeNetwork. I find I use SqueezeNetwork when friends are over to impress, but plan to use it more for my baby's room for the natural sounds and kids albums I access via Rhapsody.

It should be said that the only reason I am a paying subscriber to Rhapsody, Pandora, and Live365 is because of my Squeezebox's.

Do not stop SqueezeNetwork; that would be a major blow to the product!

(crosses fingers)

andyg
2007-06-13, 10:49
Don't worry, SN is not going away. :)

azinck3
2007-06-13, 11:36
I suppose I'm in the 50/50 crowd.

I use Rhapsody a ton and for that the Squeezenetwork implementation is undoubtedly superior to the UPnP setup: mainly because a) it doesn't require that you go to your PC to start Rhapsody and b) it's able to display all album and artist info -- an area in which the UPnP implementation is still shockingly limited.

On the other hand, I find SS invaluable for AlienBBC (NPR!), high-quality local music, the superdatetime plugin (which I use mainly for weather info), powering my SB1s (which can't use SN), the ability to view and edit the "now playing" playlist via the web interface, and the better performance and reliability provided by running from the local server.

So I do a lot of switching back and forth. I'm looking forward to Rhapsody direct integration in SS 7.

JJZolx
2007-06-13, 12:20
Do not stop SqueezeNetwork; that would be a major blow to the product!

The (admittedly limited) results from the poll so far would indicate otherwise. :-)

100% SlimServer here. I occasionally listen to Internet radio, but not via SqueezeNetwork. Tried Pandora a couple times, but didn't find it to be worth much.

bklaas
2007-06-13, 12:30
I'm at about 99% Slimserver. Plenty of internet radio use, but it's typically through the most-awesome PublicRadioFan.com plugin.

I had one awesome use for SN a couple years ago. My daughter, then < 1 year old, was waking up every night screaming. I'd take her out to the living room, connect to SN->Natural Sounds->Hard Rain and crank that puppy up. It was the only thing that would put her back to sleep, and I'd run it all night and it never cut out. Pretty amazing sound too, especially when the sound was coming from in-ceiling speakers, which made it sound like it was really raining.

That 1% use of SN was totally worth it.

#!/ben

bonze
2007-06-13, 13:18
I'm a 50/50 - but my 50% on Squeezenetwork is Pandora use only.
If there was a Pandora plugin, then it would be 100/0 :)

utowana
2007-06-13, 14:29
Squeeze network about 20% of the time. BUT, it is great and useful for all sorts of situations. Additionally, people that come to the home and rave over the SB are equally impressed with SNetwork. I actually think it is one of those over the top features that helps sell the hardware. Make sure it stays. I just discovered (yeah, I can be slow sometimes) how Radio Time is showing my local stations so nicely.

bhaagensen
2007-06-13, 16:18
As the most interesting services aren't available over here on the old continent, there's little motivation to switch over to SQN.

Same reasoning behind my vote (100% slimserver).

byKnight
2007-06-13, 18:16
I voted 75% SlimServer. But for me, it's really 85% SlimServer.

When I do connect to SqueezeNetwork, it's always to use my Pandora account.

jeffmeh
2007-06-13, 18:30
I voted 75/25, but it is more likely 90/10.

Ron F.
2007-06-13, 18:37
I voted 75% Slimserver, and 25% SN.

I might becoming more of a 50/50 listener however - not sure. I like Radio Paradise and Rhapsody.

Typically what I will do now is listen to R.P. - I like listening to things I have never heard before. So, I will listen until I hear something I really like and then I will learn more about that artist and listen to full-length CDs on Rhapsody. If I find a CD I really like from that artist I will purchase it, convert it to FLAC, and then listen to it uncompressed via Slimserver!

Then I go back to Radio Paradise and listen / learn some more.

It is a process:)

-Ron

Nostromo
2007-06-13, 20:09
It was 75/25 when I could still use Pandora. But now its 100% Slimserver. Unfortunately, the most interesting services (Pandora and Rhapsody) are only available in the US. There are other ones, but I don't know what they are. What the hell is Live365?

aubuti
2007-06-13, 22:24
What the hell is Live365?
It's a collection of internet radio stations. You can check out the free service by looking under the internet radio menu on slimserver. The subscription service doesn't have adverts, and it might stream at higher bitrates.

SadGamerGeek
2007-06-14, 02:15
Another non-US user, so unfortunately SN has little appeal.....

AndyC_772
2007-06-14, 05:35
Don't live365 stations tend to use mp3PRO, which the Squeezebox can't really handle?

Anyway: I probably spend about 80% of the time listening to my own music from a NAS drive. Typically I buy a few new CDs at a time, then listen to them over and over until I'm fed up, then go out and buy some more. So, I use the Browse>New Music feature all the time.

If I fancy a change, often I'll use random song mix instead - it breaks up the monotony and can help me rediscover music I forgot I had - so it sounds 'new' in some sense too.

The other 20% of the time it's a Shoutcast station. I keep its URL on one of my favourites so it's always easy to tune in to. However, a few weeks ago its URL changed, so my favourite stopped working - and I assumed the station was off the air. It wasn't until I browsed the list of available stations to find it again that I realised what had happened.

So, it would be nice if the Squeezebox could store the name of the station rather than just the URL, so it would have a chance of retaining the link even if the server moves? Just a thought.

jeebers
2007-06-14, 05:59
I went for 75% SS 25% SN,

I use SqueezeNetwork mainly for Pandora (we still get it in the UK) and the odd bit of internet radio browsing. I use AlienBBC and Last.FM a fair bit, but that's via SS. When Last.fm gets integrated into SqueezeNetwork that will change the split a fair bit. I'd certainly give Rhapsody a go if it became available in the UK.

With a library of 20k+ tracks, I've usually got something to listen to locally, but SqueexeNetwork is brilliant for those times when you just can't make a decision! :-)

nicketynick
2007-06-14, 07:39
Typically what I will do now is listen to R.P. - I like listening to things I have never heard before. So, I will listen until I hear something I really like and then I will learn more about that artist and listen to full-length CDs on Rhapsody. If I find a CD I really like from that artist I will purchase it, convert it to FLAC, and then listen to it uncompressed via Slimserver!

Then I go back to Radio Paradise and listen / learn some more.

It is a process:)

-Ron

That would be utopia for me...... if only I could use Rhapsody...
Must be my age - I prefer the 'album experience', so 'discovering' music is frustrating when I can't immediately go and listen to the full album.

dborn
2007-06-14, 10:37
100% SS. Never even *tried* SN...

I'm non-US with bandwidth-limited internet account and ~20,000 tracks (all high-quality mp3 rips) running on a nas with 24/7 uptime.

That says it all :)

DMR NYC
2007-06-15, 16:08
I have had a Squeezebox for abt 7 mos. At first, I listened 100% to SS. When the Rhapsody service became better integrated, I began to listen almost exclusively to SN.

Now my listening is pretty well balanced between the two. Both sides of the equation are essential to my listening experience. That said, I far prefer listening to my recordings in FLAC to listening to streaming, when I have the time to sit and listen carefully to music (which is rare these days).

rplert
2007-06-15, 17:55
The question is phrased incorrectly. For most CD level listening I use the Transporter for convenience. For my most serious listening, I use either high rez digital (SACD and a little DVD-Audio) or high-end analog. The latter when I have the time and am seriously listening to music. Squeeze network, a bit on Pandora and internet radio but let's face it, the sound quality sucks. So, only to discover new music.

stinkingpig
2007-06-17, 20:13
I don't really care for radio, internet or otherwise.

My wife likes radio a lot, but she's got great FM stations to chose from. It's hard to explain why she should learn how to start and stop squeezenetwork in order to listen to worse-sounding music than she can hear by turning on the radio :)

menno
2007-06-19, 05:41
I don't really care for radio, internet or otherwise.

My wife likes radio a lot, but she's got great FM stations to chose from. It's hard to explain why she should learn how to start and stop squeezenetwork in order to listen to worse-sounding music than she can hear by turning on the radio :)

Ah well this is totally opposite for us. Before our squeezeboxes arrived (today!), I have been ripping internet radio stations for years, and playing them back because the FM stations mostly play crap chart music that we have no interest in...

So one of the big selling points for us is the ability to use shoutcast streams, pandora & last.fm in addition to our CD "soon to be totally FLAC" collection.

In fact improvement in syncing of stream playback would be a major plus for me. And I'd love to have last.fm synced playback, which the plugin doesnt support yet.

Cheers,
Menno

TiredLegs
2007-06-20, 08:14
I have two SB3s. One of them is used 100% of the time with SlimServer. (That audio system has a separate tuner that I use when I want radio.) My other SB3 is used about 50/50 SlimServer and SqueezeNetwork. (That audio system doesn't have a tuner.)

corbey
2007-06-20, 19:46
I find that ripping/tagging is a slow process, but the more CDs I get on my hard drive, the more I listen to SS. That's not to say that I don't listen to a lot of internet radio too, but I do that mostly through SS, not SqueezeNetwork.

Maybe if there were a way to synchronize the SN services, I'd use them more.

Transporter1
2007-06-22, 07:49
I bought the slimdevices transporter i heard there was acouple left then they where going to be labled by logitech. I would recomend getting the all black it looks so cool and arrived on next day delivery from www.broadbandstuff.co.uk.

tfish77
2007-07-09, 09:28
I guess I'm in the "a" group, thought that may change soon since I'm about to sign up for the 30-day free Rhapsody trial. That could change things for me a bit, but overall I definitely spend the vast majority of my listening time streaming from the PC.

mvalera
2007-07-11, 21:20
Thanks for the responses!

Time for taking this off sticky.

Furry
2007-07-12, 00:21
I'm a 75% SN, 25% SS. I listen mainly to Radio Paradise and Soma FM Groovesalad.

This is because:

a) I haven't ripped all of my CDs yet - only done about 20.
b) I like the variety of music played on the internet radio stations (i.e. plenty that I don't have / haven't heard before).
c) My ripped music and slimserver is currently on my laptop. I have a QNAP on order, so things might change when I have that (if it ever arrives).
d) My laptop and wireless access point don't get along too well, which interrupts the music more often than I'd like. Problems here seem to be WPA re-authentication and Zyxel 660HW AP and Intel 2200BG chip (FSC laptop) not playing together properly.

Since obtaining a QNAP, things have indeed changed - the proportions have now flipped i.e. I mostly use SS rather than SN, probably approaching 100% on SS. I still need to do a lot more CD ripping, though.

Dave.