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jclyle
2007-05-29, 08:34
I'm in the process of moving my CDs to FLAC files on my PC and streaming them. Are there any portable players that will support FLAC? the 80gig iPod would be more than enough storage for me, too bad its only plays mp3s

ddewey
2007-05-29, 08:39
Quoting jclyle (jclyle.2rcpob1180452901 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com):

>
> I'm in the process of moving my CDs to FLAC files on my PC and streaming
> them. Are there any portable players that will support FLAC? the 80gig
> iPod would be more than enough storage for me, too bad its only plays
> mp3s

With the Rockbox firmware, you can play flac files on your iPod.

Also, tools such as Anapod and MediaMonkey will transcode your flacs
on the fly to mp3 to put onto your iPod, so you don't have to have a
set of mp3 files just to support your ipod. I've used both and they
work fine.

http://www.rockbox.org/
http://www.mediamonkey.com/
http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/

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http://www.last.fm/user/ddewey

PSSO
2007-05-29, 08:40
I'm in the process of moving my CDs to FLAC files on my PC and streaming them. Are there any portable players that will support FLAC? the 80gig iPod would be more than enough storage for me, too bad its only plays mp3s

Take a look at http://flac.sourceforge.net/links.html

mflint
2007-05-29, 08:42
The RockBox firmware (http://www.rockbox.org/) supports flac as far as I know...

jeffmeh
2007-05-29, 09:11
Some of the Cowon players handle FLAC also.

You may find that it works out better to keep a parallel MP3 library for your portable, rather than store FLAC on it directly. If you are listening with earbuds, in a noisy environment, etc. you may not be able to tell the difference in the audio quality. FLAC will also consume much more space and drain the battery faster.

Heuer
2007-05-29, 10:01
I keep a parallel MP3 folder of my FLAC library which allows me to use iTunes to manage the music for my iPod. You can use the FLAC2MP3 script by Robin Bowes to do an automatic batch conversion and then use foobar or other utility to convert new music as and when.

I ran a 60Gb iPod with ALAC for a while. Biggest downside was battery life which dropped from 16 hours with MP3 to 2.5 hours with ALAC because the HD is constantly running - files are too big to buffer. Even with expensive Shure E5c earbuds it was difficult to tell the difference between lossy and lossless in terms of music quality - too much ambient noise. Ditto when using the iPod in the car.

desertrat58
2007-05-29, 10:05
Yes, the manufacturer Cowan markets hard drive and flash players under the Cowan and iAudio brand names. They are quite respected players. My 4gb, flash, Cowan U3 supports FLAC and Ogg Vorbis, so I use those formats. I team it with a HeadRoom Total Airhead portable amp and a set of Shure E2G phones for a killer work-out audio system.

tamanaco
2007-05-29, 10:18
I agree with jefmeh, I own a Cowon D2 4GB and two 8GB SDHC cards that hold my Jazz and World Music libraries. The storage benefits that you gain by using a small high quality lossy format with smaller files for your portable DAP outweights any sound quality benefits you might gain from big Flac files. If you get a portable DAP with a high capacity hard drive the portability is somehow deminish because hard-drive based DAPs comsume more power, generate noise and are more delicate. So, if you want to use your portable DAP while performing physically challenging activities, like running or biking, I would stay away from hard-drive based DAPs. I have a library ripped to Flac ver 1.1.4 at level 8 for use with my SB3 at home. I convert a subset of this Flac library to MP3s using LAME version 3.97 -V2 -vbr -new. I rip most of my CDs to Flac using dBpowerAmp R12 Reference (EAC for problematic CDs) and then use the dBpowerAmp Batch Converter to build my MP3 subset library. I also store a copy of my MP3 library in a 120GB WD Passport drive so that I can bring it with me wherever I go.

I get great sound out of my Cowon D2 which has a maximum output rating of 74mW @ 16 Ohms using Ultimate Ears Super.fi Pro IEMs. Almost forgot... the D2 can also give you 52 hours of music playing from its rechargeble battery.

Amauta
2007-05-29, 10:27
The iAudio X5L has native support for FLAC.

cliston
2007-05-29, 10:41
The RIO Karma plays FLAC files, but is no longer in production.
This new player plays FLAC files:

TrekStor Vibez

http://www.trekstor.de/en/products/detail_mp3.php?pid=66&page=1

adamslim
2007-05-29, 12:02
I keep a parallel MP3 folder of my FLAC library which allows me to use iTunes to manage the music for my iPod. You can use the FLAC2MP3 script by Robin Bowes to do an automatic batch conversion and then use foobar or other utility to convert new music as and when.

I ran a 60Gb iPod with ALAC for a while. Biggest downside was battery life which dropped from 16 hours with MP3 to 2.5 hours with ALAC because the HD is constantly running - files are too big to buffer. Even with expensive Shure E5c earbuds it was difficult to tell the difference between lossy and lossless in terms of music quality - too much ambient noise. Ditto when using the iPod in the car.

I'm with Heuer 100% - I use FLAC2MP3 and have decent MP3s on my iPod, as FLAC files were a major battery drain. I still use Rockbox, although it does seem to crash a fair bit. I use Etymotic earbuds and can't detect a difference, as I only use it on the train/tube/outside.

Adam