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stoffel
2007-05-25, 05:37
If you prefer the old slim devices logo over the new logitech one in the web interface just keep a copy of the file "slimdevices_logo.gif" which is located in /usr/share/slimserver/HTML/EN/html/images if you have a debian or ubuntu OS (shouldn't be too hard to find on any other OS) before upgrading. After the installation just copy it over the newly installed one - done.

Flame me for still thinking that converting to the logitech brand was a bad move...

S.

Ben Sandee
2007-05-25, 06:15
On 5/25/07, stoffel <stoffel.2r52wo1180096802 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
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> Flame me for still thinking that converting to the logitech brand was a
> bad move...


I think it's obvious that you have no choice but to sell your hardware, most
likely at a huge loss because the circuitry has 'gone logitech', and never
return. It's the only sane choice.

Ben

bonze
2007-05-25, 12:25
I think it's obvious that you have no choice but to sell your hardware, most
likely at a huge loss because the circuitry has 'gone logitech', and never
return. It's the only sane choice.
But don't advertise it using your real name - think of the shame you'll bring on your family.

alZmtbr
2007-05-25, 13:05
Hey! It's a SLIMDEVICES logo!! Yeah, me to - I don't like the logitech logo, I'll copy that sucker in.

Going to 6.5.2 did sort out all sort of 'artist' wrong count issues tho - but some still remain.

~AlZ

chrisla
2007-05-25, 14:06
I have been pondering, is it possible for a large
computer/electronics/anything company to be large and people _NOT_ think
they are evil? What has logitech done that makes them _so_ bad? I have not
bought their products in years (just b/c I did not need any) but I seem to
remember their mice and trackballs being well constructed.

-Chris

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> Hey! It's a SLIMDEVICES logo!! Yeah, me to - I don't like the logitech
> logo, I'll copy that sucker in.
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> Going to 6.5.2 did sort out all sort of 'artist' wrong count issues tho
> - but some still remain.
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> ~AlZ
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mecouc
2007-05-25, 14:22
Because people who buy Squeezeboxes like to think they're clever in having found such a great gadget, and it being made by a small company adds to this; having say an amplifier with an obscure name on it has much more kudos than one that says 'Panasonic'; it says "here goes someone who really knows their stuff, and has hunted out technical quality rather than buying the first box they saw." If that amp says 'logitech' then it says "this box is nothing special - it's made by the same people who made your 5 dollar mouse". Whether that is right or wrong is a different question entirely, and we'll hvae to wait a year or two to find out.

James_B
2007-05-25, 15:06
Big hi-tec companies do bad things with their profits. Just look at Microsoft´s Bill Gates. Plus Logitech spy on you through their webcams and touch you up with their mice.

autopilot
2007-05-25, 15:07
Because people who buy Squeezeboxes like to think they're clever in having found such a great gadget, and it being made by a small company adds to this; having say an amplifier with an obscure name on it has much more kudos than one that says 'Panasonic'; it says "here goes someone who really knows their stuff, and has hunted out technical quality rather than buying the first box they saw." If that amp says 'logitech' then it says "this box is nothing special - it's made by the same people who made your 5 dollar mouse". Whether that is right or wrong is a different question entirely, and we'll hvae to wait a year or two to find out.

Nail.on.head.

But i think there are genuine other reason for people not being keen. Different companies with a very different ethos. No matter what we think, the development of the SB range will be going somewhere else that it would have been with Slim Devices. Some of the statement Sean made about how he wants to run his company, before the logitech deal, would not please the shareholders now. But like you say, we will just have to wait and see.

JimC
2007-05-25, 16:02
No matter what we think, the development of the SB range will be going somewhere else that it would have been with Slim Devices.

Drats! You've seen through our evil plan, but it is too late! We've already made everyone dress in suits and ties, inserted RFID devices in the backs of their skulls, and forced them wear silly party hats while working. Resistance is futile!


Jim "Cog in the Machine" Carlton
Borg of Product Marketing

chrisla
2007-05-25, 18:58
He is no doubt merciless in business and I am sure has ruined his share of
lives in doing so, but he has done a hell of allot of good with their
foundation. I believe it is one of the largest foundations out there when
combined with Warren Buffet. What evil thing's are they doing with that
foundation?

-Chris

On 5/25/07, James_B <James_B.2r5tan1180131001 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
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> Big hi-tec companies do bad things with their profits. Just look at
> Microsoft´s Bill Gates. Plus Logitech spy on you through their webcams
> and touch you up with their mice.
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kdf
2007-05-25, 19:23
On 25-May-07, at 6:58 PM, Chris Laplante wrote:

> He is no doubt merciless in business and I am sure has ruined his
> share of lives in doing so, but he has done a hell of allot of good
> with their foundation. I believe it is one of the largest foundations
> out there when combined with Warren Buffet. What evil thing's are
> they doing with that foundation?
>
There is always something revealed by google...
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/09/1455200

you did ask.
-kdf

tyler_durden
2007-05-25, 19:29
Don't kid yourself. All big companies are evil. That's how they get big. Small ones are evil, too.

No matter how they present themselves in their carefully crafted marketing materials, their relationship with their customers is about one thing only- money.

Companies are not your friends. They don't care about you. They aren't capable of caring about you. This applies whether you are a customer or an employee. Decisions at companies are made based on money and only money.

As a customer you have to decide if the evil company's product is worth the sacrifice of your hard-inherited cash. If the product does what you want at a price you are willing to pay, buy it. If it doesn't, don't. Nevermind that the company that makes it is evil.

TD

Steven Moore
2007-05-26, 02:55
I can see a merger with microsoft in the offing, the dark side must stick together!

amcluesent
2007-05-26, 03:32
I love to hate big oil, big tobacco, big music streaming :)

adamslim
2007-05-26, 08:29
I have found out (the hard way) that right-clicking the logo top left on this forum and saving to the C drive (overwriting the nasty logitech one) results in a rubbish-looking small logo. If anyone wants to post a link to the proper logo, please feel free... :)

Adam

peterw
2007-05-26, 08:59
I have found out (the hard way) that right-clicking the logo top left on this forum and saving to the C drive (overwriting the nasty logitech one) results in a rubbish-looking small logo. If anyone wants to post a link to the proper logo, please feel free... :)


Remember, Slimserver is open source with a publicly readable version control repository, so...
http://svn.slimdevices.com/trunk/server/HTML/EN/html/images/slimdevices_logo.gif?view=log
(and, no, I'm not going to bother replacing mine even though I do still think Slim Devices is a better brand than Logitech; e.g., "Lexus", "Craftsman")

-Peter

amcluesent
2007-05-26, 10:06
Keeping it real :)

autopilot
2007-05-26, 14:21
Drats! You've seen through our evil plan, but it is too late! We've already made everyone dress in suits and ties, inserted RFID devices in the backs of their skulls, and forced them wear silly party hats while working. Resistance is futile!


Jim "Cog in the Machine" Carlton
Borg of Product Marketing

LOL, nice sarcasm. But i'm not saying you are evil, or good, just that you have a very different ethos. Just like Apple and Microsoft. You can't act surprised if people who have spent a lot of their hard earned money on products that are suddenly owned and supported by a firm that work and think in a different way have some worries. But i personally remain optimistic as it goes. There are different ways to make money, you have always aimed at a different market. I just hope you realise why the SB3 is the most popular streamer, and don't just want to rape the name. :) The fact that you are on these forum listening to people bodes well though. Just don't get rid of the wiki and forums, the Logitech support/FAQ board system is pants :~)

No, your not evil. Not Darth Vader evil, although you did unleash SetPoint onto the world, so not too far off. And make sure you don't let the kids who designed the Harmony remote pages anywhere near slimserver.

Keep up the good/evil [delete as appropriate] work. Cheers :)

/ducks...

adamslim
2007-05-26, 15:51
Keeping it real :)

Cheers mate, pollution removed. After all, I'm hardly going to deed poll myself just to keep up with my devices :)

Adam

eq72521
2007-05-26, 16:59
Remember, Slimserver is open source with a publicly readable version control repository, so...
http://svn.slimdevices.com/trunk/server/HTML/EN/html/images/slimdevices_logo.gif?view=log
(and, no, I'm not going to bother replacing mine even though I do still think Slim Devices is a better brand than Logitech; e.g., "Lexus", "Craftsman")

-Peter

Wow. When I saw this thread I assumed it would be the "Slim Devices | A Logitech Company" logo as on http://www.slimdevices.com/, in which case I'd probably not have bothered to switch. But the full-on "Logitech" is too much change for me, so I'll probably be among those to switch the logo back when I upgrade.

I seem to remember Slim Devices being labeled a wholly owned subsidiary back when this was announced, which one would think would include retaining some measure of branding. But maybe I'm just mixing that up with the recent Microsoft acquisition of TellMe (which is definitely a subsidiary).

tyler_durden
2007-05-27, 00:02
You guys sure have limited imaginations. It's a freakin' .gif file ferchrissakes! Put your own picture in there. Put a picture of your dog/cat/hamster/milk snake/rabbit/etc. in there. Use an animated .gif. Pod people can put an apple logo in there and confuse the heck out of their pod-people friends.

TD

James_B
2007-05-27, 16:39
He is no doubt merciless in business and I am sure has ruined his share of
lives in doing so, but he has done a hell of allot of good with their
foundation. I believe it is one of the largest foundations out there when
combined with Warren Buffet. What evil thing's are they doing with that
foundation?

-Chris

On 5/25/07, James_B <James_B.2r5tan1180131001 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:
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> Big hi-tec companies do bad things with their profits. Just look at
> Microsoft´s Bill Gates. Plus Logitech spy on you through their webcams
> and touch you up with their mice.
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I was being a tad ironic and so would freely acknowldege Bill Gates is - as yet - trailing Messieurs Mao, Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot.

As for Logitech´s webcams I stick by my guns and lets just say unplugging them at night is not enough..



Logitech QuickCam Communicate STX Plus >> Clove of garlic >> Stake at the ready

LewisT
2007-05-28, 09:32
...And make sure you don't let the kids who designed the Harmony remote pages anywhere near slimserver...

Couldn't agree more. They're embarrassingly bad.

Keith
2007-05-31, 10:18
I've been considering purchasing a Transporter but contrary to some points of view brand is very imporant but why pay for a brand or more accurately why pay a premium price for a brand? There must be something that provides the purchaser with something more than just the product?

Although I want what I believe is the best it has to have to be at the right price. $2000 for a Slim Device Transporter is a lot of money but $2000 for a Logitech Transporter is excessive.

This has nothing to do with Logitech as a company it's consumer preference.

That's my view and like all consumers I can always vote with my wallet.

I can see the rational for the standard SB but the Transporter is something else, it's a niche market product so why not exploit this.

slutz
2007-05-31, 12:26
It's all a matter of perception (mktg says "of positioning"). Yes, individual perception but you have some rules.
First, what do you want to sell? Do you want to sell some sort of feelings/imaginations/vibrations? Do you want to sell a product? Do you want to sell both? (Yes, there are more.) Have a look at some oil companies. They try to connect both of them. At first glance absurd. But they do this to avoid bad reputation. And in that they succeed.
Have a look at the structure of Logitech. They sell cheap and good stuff. They are known for being reliable at an affordable price. The Transporter will be their premium product. And to sell that product they have to change the customer's perception regarding Logitech. There are few people that will buy that product because it's manufactured by Logitech. They will think "what's that?". If they can get something similar they may buy it from a company with more reputation in manufacturing expensive stuff. If they can sell more Transporters ... we will see. But it is good for the Squeezebox. This is a segment where they are nearly in. But that will be hard because of the Squeezebox' price. Have a look at the price of the Pinnacle box. And Pinnacle has a pretty good reputation in that segment. I think it was no good idea to remove the SlimDevices references. They should have been using that up to the point where they can savely transition from SlimDevices to Logitech. Because they now have the power to push the SlimDevices products to new hights (but that needs invests). I see that -here in Germany- nobody knows about SlimDevices. If you pushed SlimDevices they appear new to the market and people get curious and are willing to try the new star (powered by Logitech's marketing/money in the background). But if they see Logitech they will think "puhh, what a price from such a company". Logitech must tell them that they have bought a great company with lots of know-how and that they can do these things now. But if they tell them (in Germany) that the name of that company was SlimDevices ...
We will see. I won't say that the decision to be part of Logitech was a bad decision. Maybe they have more money and power to do even better development now. But if it's true that the lead developer has left the company... We had similar occurrences. When we grew larger some people have left the company because it was not the same as before. Those guys are simply not willing to do the change and see the change as a chance for the company and themselves. But there are others that see the chances. Yes, some sort of spirit may get lost and we may notice that (even if we should not).
There is one thing I'm afraid of. Logitech might push SlimDevice's products into the mass market (like Media Markt / Saturn here in Germany). If they do not get the fast ROI they may get disappointed and can react like other large companies do: they push away SlimDevices or finish selling their products. Something we all have seen several times. And if you have the shareholders breathing down your neck...

-slutz

mherger
2007-05-31, 12:59
> that -here in Germany- nobody knows about SlimDevices. If you pushed

German's leading computer magazine c't has been writing about SliMP3 four
years ago (and ever since when there was a new product): "SlimDevices hat
seinen SliMP3 konsequent auf das Display reduziert. Seine Stärke ist das
durchdachte Zusammenspiel von Fernbedienung, flexiblem Webinterface und
großzügiger Anzeige." (c't 8/03, p.106ff)

> Maybe they have more money and power to do even better
> development now.

They now have the means to hire developers world-wide.

Michael

amcluesent
2007-05-31, 13:25
After the 6.5.2 upgrade, I'm sure the SB3 is blinking subliminal messages when playing..."You love Logitech" over and over :(

slutz
2007-05-31, 13:48
Yes, four years ago. And try to get one here. Some say "on stock" but they aren't. And even worse, they tell you to try Noxon et al. And if you ask other renowned dealers they don't even know SlimDevices. They only know Noxon and Soundbridge. You have to know about the existance of the Squeezebox. Otherwise you will be stuck with the other stuff.
Have you seen a review in German magazines as a follow-up to the merger? I did not but in the past I have focussed on Spiegel ;-)

MikeSB
2007-06-01, 10:58
Does anyone no where I can find "slimdevices_logo.gif" on max os x?

Mike

kefa
2007-06-02, 03:22
I have my slimserver installed under a separate 'slimserver' user for security. Just replace the first 'slimserver' with whatever username you installed under...

/slimserver/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/HTML/EN/html/images/slimdevices_logo.gif