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ichilton
2007-05-20, 12:35
Hi,

I've not bought much electronic music as I dont think the iTunes prices are cheap enough not to have a physical CD so i've only got the odd track here and there.

However, now I have Slingbox too and it wont play iTunes purchased music I was wondering whether there were any other sites which have a good range of music like iTunes and good prices.

Thanks

Ian

djlackey5
2007-05-20, 13:38
I buy most downloads from eMusic.com. They do not have any major labels, only indys. Awesome selection of jazz, blues, world, classical, and indy rock. Weird pricing model, where you pay $15 per month for 60 downloads (or $20 for 90, I think). All files are unprotected MP3 and will play on iPod or anywhere.

Saw a newspaper article that Amazon is launching an MP3 store with no protection issues (the reason our Apple iTunes downloads won't play through Squeezebox).

amcluesent
2007-05-20, 14:28
Magnatune, good source of FLAC encoded (plus MP3 etc.) music

ddewey
2007-05-20, 14:40
Quoting djlackey5 (djlackey5.2qwfsn1179693601 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com):

>
> I buy most downloads from eMusic.com. They do not have any major
> labels, only indys. Awesome selection of jazz, blues, world,
> classical, and indy rock. Weird pricing model, where you pay $15 per
> month for 60 downloads (or $20 for 90, I think). All files are
> unprotected MP3 and will play on iPod or anywhere.

Seconded, I've used eMusic for a long time, have their top tier of
service, and still run out of downloads every month. As long as you
aren't interested in flavor of the week corporate rock, eMusic is
great. They also have an outstanding jazz selection.

Siduhe
2007-05-20, 15:10
Emusic.com and DJDownload.com here...

ichilton
2007-05-21, 00:30
Hi,

Thanks for the replies.

I looked at eMusic the other week and they didn't really have any music I liked.

Interesting that Amazon are going to do one - it would be good if it was as big as iTunes but without the DRM problems and at reasonable prices.

Thanks

Ian

agentsmith
2007-05-21, 06:13
eMusic here. I have been using eMusic ever since they charged $9.99 for unlimited downloads of 128kbps MP3.

They are charging monthly fees for limited downloads, but the encoding is now 192kbps VBR.

If your musical taste is non mainstream, eMusic can be a trasure trough.

mecouc
2007-05-21, 08:00
You do need hours of spare time for emusic, so you can listen to all the artists you've never heard of. It isn't really compatible with having children!

notanatheist
2007-05-21, 19:13
I buy my music online. Typically Amazon. First I listen to samples then I have them send me the CD. Having bought digitally in the past leads to disappointment. You don't have the CD liner, lyrics, or hardcopy to encode any way you like.

Rambaud
2007-05-25, 00:08
I have been using iTunes for the past couple of months, as 100 vouchers are available for 25 to 30 (so a 7.99 album costs just under 2.00) - pity they are only 128kbps at the moment (EMI labels should be 256kbps and no DRM).

I can play my iTunes downloads via my SB3 after conversion.

SuperQ
2007-05-25, 00:12
I buy my music online. Typically Amazon.

I second the amazon service.. I tend to borrow stuff from friends and if I like it I order the CD online. Sometimes I goto one of the various used CD places if I'm bored. Mostly I'm too picky about what I buy so I don't have that many CDs.

Rangdo
2007-05-25, 01:37
Magnatune, good source of FLAC encoded (plus MP3 etc.) music

I like their attitude as well, you don't actually buy as much as donate so you can choose the amount. And they are quite happy for you to distribute to upto 3 friends.

RIAA anyone!!?!

doundounba
2007-05-25, 07:23
Count me in as another happy eMusic customer. First subscribed when it was unlimited. Then they switched their model, and I still stayed on. Eventually I did get "download fatigue". You have X downloads per month, and if you don't use them, you loose them. After a while it started taking longer and longer to find stuff I liked and wanted. I dropped out for about a year, and came back on a little over a year ago (before the latest price hike). Still happy right now.

I also occasionally shop at place like Calabash Music and bluetracks.ca when I can't find stuff on eMusic (e.g. French group Lo'Jo). Been keeping an eye on puretracks.com, but so far their MP3 selection has been a little disappointing (and I don't buy wma).

EnochLight
2007-05-26, 14:01
I try to buy CD's first and foremost to rip them to FLAC, but in a pinch I'll order from iTunes and then scrub the file of their DRM infection with QTFairUse so I can listen to them on my Squeezebox.

Now, if only QTFairUse worked with video files and I'd be a happy camper! ;-P

Andyb01
2007-05-26, 14:32
I've bought mainly from iTunes but the DRM is a real pain as tracks have to be burned to CD before they can be converted. A further issue with iTunes is that the output signal is really low and I always have to rip to wav and amplify in Audacity before ripping to mp3 and that's quite a disincentive! Have tried tweaking loads of settings in iTunes but can't get round this problem so if anyone knows a solution then please post!

I don't really think downloads offer value for money - better off with CDs at least you don't have to back them up!!

Andy

EnochLight
2007-05-26, 15:06
I've bought mainly from iTunes but the DRM is a real pain as tracks have to be burned to CD before they can be converted. A further issue with iTunes is that the output signal is really low and I always have to rip to wav and amplify in Audacity before ripping to mp3 and that's quite a disincentive! Have tried tweaking loads of settings in iTunes but can't get round this problem so if anyone knows a solution then please post!

I don't really think downloads offer value for money - better off with CDs at least you don't have to back them up!!

Andy

Andy,

Burning iTMS purchased tracks to CD and then converting them to mp3's worsens their already substandard sound quality (as both are lossy file formats). If all you want to do is play your iTMS tracks on your Squeezebox, use QTFairUse instead. It's much faster, you don't waste CDR's, and you do not degrade the file sound quality any further... well unless you decide to transcode into mp3 or other compressed formats...

Just some advice... ;-)

Cheers,

EnochLight

jmourik
2007-05-26, 19:25
www.yourmusic.com
Quite nice, $7 per cd shipped.

jan

peejay
2007-05-26, 21:13
I usually listen to samples on Amazon, but buy through CD Universe, as they deliver far quicker than Amazon (I had seen an album I liked in stock at Amazon, yet their estimated delivery time was 8 weeks?) and for slightly less. I tend not to buy music files as they are generally lossy, and I still prefer the physical CD. Ripping with EAC takes a single mouse click, and 10 minutes later it's blasting through the SB3....

iwp
2007-05-27, 03:30
If you're happy to dig around stuff you haven't heard before,
http://www.resonancestore.com has some interesting bits and pieces. I recently found http://www.zunior.com too, though I haven't looked too closely at this. Both non-DRMy with some albums available in FLAC.

Andyb01
2007-05-27, 13:49
Andy,

Burning iTMS purchased tracks to CD and then converting them to mp3's worsens their already substandard sound quality (as both are lossy file formats). If all you want to do is play your iTMS tracks on your Squeezebox, use QTFairUse instead. It's much faster, you don't waste CDR's, and you do not degrade the file sound quality any further... well unless you decide to transcode into mp3 or other compressed formats...

Just some advice... ;-)

Cheers,

EnochLight
Much appreciated - am looking into this now.

Cheers

Andy

nicketynick
2007-05-28, 07:04
Try the emusic subscribers station on lastfm:
lastfm://group/eMusic%20Subscribers
A lot of what it plays will be available on emusic.

There is also the emusic/pandora mash-up (for those lucky sods who can still get Pandora)
http://emusic.strunkworks.com/

deadkenny
2007-05-28, 16:17
I don't buy online music.

Don't like DRM, and more importantly I don't like the poor encodings of many online services.

Whilst CD isn't the best quality, it is however generally better than a lot of online music. Sadly the assumption is most people don't care about quality and only want portability.

Anyway, I buy CDs (which are very cheap now) and rip them all to Flac and store on big hard discs on my server. If I want to play on my portable (non-Apple) MP3 player I just convert to MP3.

When I can be assured that all music downloads are guaranteed to work in any player I buy, forever, and are at least the same quality as CD, and are no more expensive than a CD which is often between 5 and 10 now, then I might be interested.

SadGamerGeek
2007-05-29, 05:47
I don't buy online music.

Don't like DRM, and more importantly I don't like the poor encodings of many online services.

Whilst CD isn't the best quality, it is however generally better than a lot of online music. Sadly the assumption is most people don't care about quality and only want portability.

Anyway, I buy CDs (which are very cheap now) and rip them all to Flac and store on big hard discs on my server. If I want to play on my portable (non-Apple) MP3 player I just convert to MP3.

When I can be assured that all music downloads are guaranteed to work in any player I buy, forever, and are at least the same quality as CD, and are no more expensive than a CD which is often between 5 and 10 now, then I might be interested.

Yep, what he said!

bephillips
2007-05-29, 12:58
I just bought live shows direct from Hot Tuna in drm-free flac.

http://www.hottunatunes.com/do/welcome

Previously I bought Dub Side of the Moon directly from the Easy Star Allstars, also drm-free flac, and tagged too.

http://www.easystar.com/

Minora
2007-06-01, 15:42
I have been using iTunes for the past couple of months, as 100 vouchers are available for 25 to 30 (so a 7.99 album costs just under 2.00) - pity they are only 128kbps at the moment (EMI labels should be 256kbps and no DRM).

I can play my iTunes downloads via my SB3 after conversion.

How do you convert them? I recently got WMA Convert SW and it doesn't work. All the tracks that I have converted have problems with them.

Rambaud
2007-06-01, 16:34
How do you convert them? I recently got WMA Convert SW and it doesn't work. All the tracks that I have converted have problems with them.

I burn them to CD, and then use jriver Mediacenter to covert them to APE format (the same as my other music ).

bjs
2007-06-01, 18:39
Personally, I will only buy music online if it is available in flac format. There's not much out there unfortunately. I did find http://www.bleep.com, a division of warp records I think. They have a small handful of titles available in flac.

djlackey5
2007-06-02, 08:10
Just tested the new iTunes Plus. Bought the new Fountains of Wayne (the full album price is the same as the old iTunes copy-protected version). New DRM-free iTunes Plus version loaded and played through SlimServer and Squeezebox seamlessly. Good news!

Also, re: high bitrate downloads: musicgiants.com offers these from all the major labels, however..."The MusicGiants music that you download to your computer, is in Window Media Audio (WMA) Lossless format. Lossless downloads reproduce music at up to 1100 kbps versus the 128 to 192 kpbs of other download services. We use Microsoft Windows Media Digital Rights Management software to make sure all the music you have is legal and protected. More information about Microsoft DRM is available on their website." Does anyone know if Squeezebox will play these?

haunyack
2007-06-02, 08:18
Does anyone know if Squeezebox will play these?


In a word? - No.
Slimserver does not support DRM tracks.
There are programs ie - FairUse4WM that will losslessly remove the DRM from a track.
But that solution borders on piracy.

.

Mark Lanctot
2007-06-02, 08:45
Also, re: high bitrate downloads: musicgiants.com offers these from all the major labels, however..."The MusicGiants music that you download to your computer, is in Window Media Audio (WMA) Lossless format. Lossless downloads reproduce music at up to 1100 kbps versus the 128 to 192 kpbs of other download services. We use Microsoft Windows Media Digital Rights Management software to make sure all the music you have is legal and protected. More information about Microsoft DRM is available on their website." Does anyone know if Squeezebox will play these?

Watch out for MusicGiants - see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=123704&postcount=11

Sure they may not do this anymore, but the fact they once considered this a good idea is reason enough to stay far away.