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gary
2007-02-15, 13:50
Hi all

The last 10 to 15 seconds are being cut off of my songs. Only seems to happen on flac and wav files. I have been updating the software nightly. I am using windows 2000 server. Never used to happen on the old 6.5.1 nightly. Since I have upgraded to the official release. The problem started. Hoping it was going to get sorted on the new nightly. Any ideas?(only got annoying tonight while listening to The wall by floyd)

Gary

Mark Lanctot
2007-02-16, 09:35
Could you go to Server Settings - Debugging - check "d_source", play a few of these tracks and post the log output, which can be accessed from the "here" link at the top of the Debugging page?

gary
2007-02-16, 11:00
Will do.

thanks

gary
2007-02-16, 11:57
see if wav-wav-*-* is enabled
enabled
Found command: -
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
checking formats for: wav-mp3-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-mp3-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-mp3-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-mp3-*-*
Checking to see if wav-mp3-*-* is enabled
enabled
Found command: [lame] --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ $FILE$ -
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Matched Format: mp3 Type: wav Command: [lame] --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ $FILE$ -
playing out before starting next song. (old format: mp3, new: mp3)
00:04:20:05:aa:0f: Switching to mode playout-play from play
00:04:20:05:aa:0f New play mode: playout-play
00:04:20:05:aa:0f: Current playmode: playout-play
No pending chunks - we're dropping the streaming connection
00:04:20:05:aa:0f: Can't opennext, returning no chunk.
00:04:20:05:aa:0f: Decoder underrun while this mode: playout-play
the next song is number 13, was 12
**skipahead: opening next song
opening next song...
the next song is number 13, was 12
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
undermax = 0, type = wav, squeezebox2 = 00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-wma-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-wma-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-wma-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-wma-*-*
checking formats for: wav-ogg-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-ogg-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-ogg-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-ogg-*-*
checking formats for: wav-flc-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-flc-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-flc-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-flc-*-*
Checking to see if wav-flc-*-* is enabled
enabled
Found command: [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --skip=$START$ --until=$END$ -- $FILE$
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
checking formats for: wav-aif-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-aif-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-aif-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-aif-*-*
checking formats for: wav-wav-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-wav-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-wav-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-wav-*-*
Checking to see if wav-wav-*-* is enabled
enabled
Found command: -
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
checking formats for: wav-mp3-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-mp3-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-mp3-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-mp3-*-*
Checking to see if wav-mp3-*-* is enabled
enabled
Found command: [lame] --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ $FILE$ -
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Matched Format: mp3 Type: wav Command: [lame] --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ $FILE$ -
opening next song (old format: mp3, new: mp3) current playmode: playout-play
Adding song index 13 to song queue
Song queue is now 13,12
**skipahead: restarting
00:04:20:05:aa:0f: Switching to mode play from playout-play
openSong on: file:///E:/Pink%20Floyd/The%20wall/2%20The%20Wall/01%20-%20Hey%20You%20-%20The%20Wall%20(Cd2)%20-%20Pink%20Floyd.wav
openSong: duration: [280.733] size: [49521360] endian [] offset: [44] for file:///E:/Pink%20Floyd/The%20wall/2%20The%20Wall/01%20-%20Hey%20You%20-%20The%20Wall%20(Cd2)%20-%20Pink%20Floyd.wav
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
undermax = 0, type = wav, squeezebox2 = 00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-wma-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-wma-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-wma-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-wma-*-*
checking formats for: wav-ogg-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-ogg-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-ogg-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-ogg-*-*
checking formats for: wav-flc-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-flc-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-flc-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-flc-*-*
Checking to see if wav-flc-*-* is enabled
enabled
Found command: [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --skip=$START$ --until=$END$ -- $FILE$
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
checking formats for: wav-aif-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-aif-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-aif-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-aif-*-*
checking formats for: wav-wav-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-wav-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-wav-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-wav-*-*
Checking to see if wav-wav-*-* is enabled
enabled
Found command: -
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
checking formats for: wav-mp3-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-mp3-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-mp3-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-mp3-*-*
Checking to see if wav-mp3-*-* is enabled
enabled
Found command: [lame] --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ $FILE$ -
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Matched Format: mp3 Type: wav Command: [lame] --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ $FILE$ -
openSong: this is an wav file: file:///E:/Pink%20Floyd/The%20wall/2%20The%20Wall/01%20-%20Hey%20You%20-%20The%20Wall%20(Cd2)%20-%20Pink%20Floyd.wav
file type: wav format: mp3 inrate: 1411.2 maxRate: 320
command: [lame] --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ $FILE$ -
Using command for conversion: "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\lame.exe" --resample 44100 --silent -q 9 --abr 320 "E:\Pink Floyd\The wall\2 The Wall\01 - Hey You - The Wall (Cd2) - Pink Floyd.wav" - |
Launching process with command: "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\socketwrapper.exe" -o 3312 -c "\"C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\lame.exe\" --resample 44100 --silent -q 9 --abr 320 \"E:\Pink Floyd\The wall\2 The Wall\01 - Hey You - The Wall (Cd2) - Pink Floyd.wav\" - |"
openSong: Streaming with format: mp3
00:04:20:05:aa:0f New play mode: play
00:04:20:05:aa:0f: Current playmode: play
We need to send 0 seconds of silence...
sending 0 bytes of silence
Pipeline reader connected
We need to send 0 seconds of silence...
sending 0 bytes of silence
We need to send 0 seconds of silence...
sending 0 bytes of silence
00:04:20:05:a1:3b: Decoder underrun while this mode: playout-play
the next song is number 6, was 5
**skipahead: opening next song
opening next song...
the next song is number 6, was 5
undermax = 1, type = wav, squeezebox2 = 00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-wma-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-wma-*-00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-wma-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-wma-*-*
checking formats for: wav-ogg-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-ogg-*-00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-ogg-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-ogg-*-*
checking formats for: wav-flc-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-flc-*-00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-flc-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-flc-*-*
Checking to see if wav-flc-*-* is enabled
enabled
Found command: [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --skip=$START$ --until=$END$ -- $FILE$
Matched Format: flc Type: wav Command: [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --skip=$START$ --until=$END$ -- $FILE$
opening next song (old format: flc, new: flc) current playmode: playout-play
Adding song index 6 to song queue
Song queue is now 6,5
**skipahead: restarting
00:04:20:05:a1:3b: Switching to mode play from playout-play
openSong on: file:///E:/Queen/A%20Night%20At%20The%20Opera/07%20-%20Seaside%20Rendezvous%20-%20A%20Night%20At%20The%20Opera%20-%20Queen.wav
openSong: duration: [136.827] size: [24136224] endian [] offset: [44] for file:///E:/Queen/A%20Night%20At%20The%20Opera/07%20-%20Seaside%20Rendezvous%20-%20A%20Night%20At%20The%20Opera%20-%20Queen.wav
undermax = 1, type = wav, squeezebox2 = 00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-wma-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-wma-*-00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-wma-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-wma-*-*
checking formats for: wav-ogg-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-ogg-*-00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-ogg-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-ogg-*-*
checking formats for: wav-flc-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:a1:3b
checking formats for: wav-flc-*-00:04:20:05:a1:3b

brucesee
2007-02-16, 14:00
I am having the same issue when streaming Apple Lossless files from my ITunes library and FLAC files. As I listen, I can see the counter running down and the songs cut out (and move to the next track) usually with about 7-8 seconds left to play. Any suggestions as to how to fix this extremely annoying problem (I mean, what's the point in listening to music if you can't hear the full tune)? Thanks.

Bruce Seeliger

haunyack
2007-02-16, 14:25
In lieu of no interest from Slim Support on this issue - I recommend rolling back to 6.3.1

This is a workaround for the truncation problem.

Mark Lanctot
2007-02-17, 10:04
I see you're transcoding to MP3:


Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
Setting maxBitRate for Kitchen to: 320
checking formats for: wav-mp3-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-mp3-*-00:04:20:05:aa:0f
checking formats for: wav-mp3-squeezebox2-*
checking formats for: wav-mp3-*-*
Checking to see if wav-mp3-*-* is enabled
enabled
Found command: [lame] --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ $FILE$ -

And here's the problem:


No pending chunks - we're dropping the streaming connection
00:04:20:05:aa:0f: Can't opennext, returning no chunk.
00:04:20:05:aa:0f: Decoder underrun while this mode: playout-play
the next song is number 13, was 12
**skipahead: opening next song
opening next song...
the next song is number 13, was 12


00:04:20:05:a1:3b: Decoder underrun while this mode: playout-play
the next song is number 6, was 5
**skipahead: opening next song
opening next song...
the next song is number 6, was 5

Now as for what's causing this, I'm over my head so I hope someone else comes in here.

Is there a reason why you're transcoding? Low bandwidth? Try streaming WAV directly, or streaming as FLAC - this is controlled by the Server Settings - File Types page. Uncheck the WAV - MP3 box and check the WAV - FLAC box or just leave the WAV - WAV (built-in) box checked.

Mark Lanctot
2007-02-17, 10:05
I am having the same issue when streaming Apple Lossless files from my ITunes library and FLAC files. As I listen, I can see the counter running down and the songs cut out (and move to the next track) usually with about 7-8 seconds left to play. Any suggestions as to how to fix this extremely annoying problem (I mean, what's the point in listening to music if you can't hear the full tune)? Thanks.

Bruce Seeliger

There have been some fixes for Apple Lossless problems recently - try the latest nightly.

randybrand
2007-02-17, 15:17
Check out bug 4544. SD is now able to reproduce this problem and I think that they are going to try to fix it in 6.5.2. Meanwhile, you can go back to 6.3.1 and get rid of the problem.

gary
2007-02-17, 15:18
I have down rated to mp3 on the kitchen player because I have gone wireless while I am working on it (the kitchen). The one in the bathroom is doing the same and that hasnít been changed at all. I have tried what you gave suggested and the kitchen box is conking out after 40 seconds. The salon and bathroom are still chopping off the end of songs. All the rest of my boxes (6) are all hard wired (still chopping off songs) . May try tonightís nightly
Thanks

Gary

gary
2007-02-17, 15:34
just done tonights nightly, still the same. :(

brucesee
2007-02-18, 19:57
Thanks for the advice. I just downloaded the latest nightly, and it didn't help. I'm still losing the last 5-8 seconds of each song formatted w/Apple Lossless (FLAC seems okay). Now, has the nightly fix actually fixed the problem w/Apple Lossless, generally, and I'm just experiencing a specific problem? If not, I'll try the "roll back" to 6.3.1 idea (and hope that that doesn't bring a host of other bugs).

brucesee
2007-02-18, 20:05
Well, as embarassed as I may be, I've no idea how to "roll back" to a prior version. One of the recommended fixes had been to roll back to 6.3.1. How do I do that? Thanks.

haunyack
2007-02-18, 20:08
Thanks for the advice. I just downloaded the latest nightly, and it didn't help. I'm still losing the last 5-8 seconds of each song formatted w/Apple Lossless (FLAC seems okay). Now, has the nightly fix actually fixed the problem w/Apple Lossless, generally, and I'm just experiencing a specific problem? If not, I'll try the "roll back" to 6.3.1 idea (and hope that that doesn't bring a host of other bugs).

Except for loss of some added functionality that comes with the newer versions of software/firmware, I have not had any additional issues with the 6.3.1 version.
Meanwhile, I wait patiently for the good folks at (Logitech)Slimdevices to get off their a$$ and fix this annoying issue.

dmw
2007-02-19, 00:03
All my music is in Windows Media Lossless format. Since "upgrading" from 6.5.0 to 6.5.1 I have noticed that the player stops each track about 17-20 seconds from the end and moves to the next track on the album. It seems to be independent of track length.

6.5.1 came with a firmware upgrade. If I reinstall 6.5.0, will it work with the new firmware?

Kevin O. Lepard
2007-02-19, 06:41
>6.5.1 came with a firmware upgrade. If I reinstall 6.5.0, will it work
>with the new firmware?

Firmware is paired with server version. If you reinstall 6.5.0 it'll
put the appropriate firmware back on the Squeezebox.

Kevin
--
Kevin O. Lepard

Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

Mark Lanctot
2007-02-19, 18:27
Well, as embarassed as I may be, I've no idea how to "roll back" to a prior version. One of the recommended fixes had been to roll back to 6.3.1. How do I do that? Thanks.

There were a lot of changes going from 6.3.x to 6.5.x, so it's best to uninstall and delete the SlimServer directory. Your settings are stored in slimserver.pref (?) and provided that this is compatible between 6.3.x and 6.5.x, if you back up slimserver.pref and replace the new file created on install all your settings will remain intact.

6.3.x can be found here:

http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/

brucesee
2007-02-20, 11:25
There were a lot of changes going from 6.3.x to 6.5.x, so it's best to uninstall and delete the SlimServer directory. Your settings are stored in slimserver.pref (?) and provided that this is compatible between 6.3.x and 6.5.x, if you back up slimserver.pref and replace the new file created on install all your settings will remain intact.

6.3.x can be found here:

http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/

Thanks. I found the download, yesterday, and tried to roll back. It failed bec. it couldn't replace tray.exe. I'll try your method. Of course, it'd be better if SlimDevices just finally fixed this bug.

brucesee
2007-02-21, 13:31
SD customer support suggested that, to prevent Apple Lossless files from cutting out, I follow the instructions in the forum (post #16 and post#20) at

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30251&page=2&highlight=alac

From subsequent postings, I'm not sure that their suggested fix works. Has anyone else tried?

SteveEast
2007-02-21, 14:02
Has anyone with this problem tried the alternate socketwrapper.exe from:

http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/socketwrapper_0.12_20060220.zip

It seems to solve all sorts of weird and wonderful problems with transcoding.

Steve.

bodajmac
2007-02-21, 15:36
SD customer support suggested that, to prevent Apple Lossless files from cutting out, I follow the instructions in the forum (post #16 and post#20) at

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30251&page=2&highlight=alac

From subsequent postings, I'm not sure that their suggested fix works. Has anyone else tried?

hi bruce,

i was afflicted with this particular bug a couple of weeks back - i tried these changes and they did improve the situation insofar as the amount chopped off the end of transcoded songs was considerably reduced. the chopping itself was however still there, albeit not quite so noticeable as before.

if you can stick with it for a while longer it looks from the bug report cited previously in this thread like a fix is coming. i couldn't live with it and am now happily ripping to flac and enjoying all the advantages of a natively-supported format :-)

crimson_squee
2007-02-21, 16:43
Must of my music is in AIFF format and I am having the same problem anywhere from 5 seconds to 2 on the end seems just to be skipped.

M3Rocket
2007-02-22, 03:14
Check out bug 4544. SD is now able to reproduce this problem and I think that they are going to try to fix it in 6.5.2. Meanwhile, you can go back to 6.3.1 and get rid of the problem.

Actually, this is more akin to bug 4384. Please vote on this bug--I haven't gotten the developers to really look into it eventhough I reported it fairly early on with 6.5.1. It is an easy bug to reproduce, and there is detailed explanation in the bug tracker, so I'm not sure why they haven't paid much attention to it.

brucesee
2007-02-22, 20:45
Thanks for everyone's advice and input. Ultimately, I rolled back to 6.3.1 and that worked. Still, shouldn't have to regress to progress. Cust. Service (w/whom I've had many phone calls and e-mails) tells me that they're trying to work out this "bug."