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Bennett, Gavin \(LDN Int\)
2007-02-13, 01:43
Hi,

Odd title I know, but.....

I am about to reonovate my kitchen, at the moment I have an old Slimp3
(works very well) and cheap set of powered PC speakers on a shelf.

In the new kitchen I would like soemthing neater i.e. less wires and
more WAF (Wife Approval Factor). I was thinking of mounting good
speakers on the ceiling, the Slimp3 on the bottom of a wall unit and an
amp somewhere hidden. My issue is needing to turn the amp on/off
whenever I use the Slimp3. I do not want to leave the amp on
constantly.

Can anyone suggest a good setup for this kind of thing?



Gavin


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ddewey
2007-02-13, 07:44
Quoting Bennett, Gavin (LDN Int) (GBENNETT (AT) manfinancial (DOT) com):

> Hi,
>
> Odd title I know, but.....
>
> I am about to reonovate my kitchen, at the moment I have an old Slimp3
> (works very well) and cheap set of powered PC speakers on a shelf.
>
> In the new kitchen I would like soemthing neater i.e. less wires and
> more WAF (Wife Approval Factor). I was thinking of mounting good
> speakers on the ceiling, the Slimp3 on the bottom of a wall unit and an
> amp somewhere hidden. My issue is needing to turn the amp on/off
> whenever I use the Slimp3. I do not want to leave the amp on
> constantly.
>
> Can anyone suggest a good setup for this kind of thing?

Try the excellent IRBlaster plugin. It will turn your amp on and off with
the SB. Not positive it will work with the slimp3 though.

Skunk
2007-02-13, 08:09
I was thinking of mounting good
speakers on the ceiling, the Slimp3 on the bottom of a wall unit and an
amp somewhere hidden. My issue is needing to turn the amp on/off
whenever I use the Slimp3. I do not want to leave the amp on
constantly.

Along with IR blaster there are amps that are supposed to shut off when Slimp3 stops sending rca signals, like the Parasound Zamp.

Then you've got to hide the amp somewhere. Is there room in the wall unit above it? I would have the electrician run an outlet to the cabinet (if that's what you mean by wall mount), if it satisfies electrical code in your area.

What I would probably do is put a cheap receiver in the nearest pantry and run longish RCA cables to the Slimp3. You could then run an extra set of speaker wire for outdoor speakers/garage/dining room etc., as well as the in-wall speakers.

Bennett, Gavin \(LDN Int\)
2007-02-13, 08:27
Skunk/Dave

Sadly the SLimp3 has no IRBlaster interface.

The Parasound looks perfect. I will be putting wall units all the way
to the ceiling so underneath is better but will put a power socket in
the back of it or run conduit underneath the tiles.

Many thanks


Gavin

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bdelp
2007-02-13, 18:13
Why not tie in the amp receptacle to the kitchen lights.
BD

peter
2007-02-14, 03:39
Bennett, Gavin (LDN Int) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Odd title I know, but.....
>
> I am about to reonovate my kitchen, at the moment I have an old Slimp3
> (works very well) and cheap set of powered PC speakers on a shelf.
>
> In the new kitchen I would like soemthing neater i.e. less wires and
> more WAF (Wife Approval Factor). I was thinking of mounting good
> speakers on the ceiling, the Slimp3 on the bottom of a wall unit and an
> amp somewhere hidden. My issue is needing to turn the amp on/off
> whenever I use the Slimp3. I do not want to leave the amp on
> constantly.
>
> Can anyone suggest a good setup for this kind of thing?
>

I can tell you what I did. One of the walls in my kitchen is shared with
the garage. I put the Amp (A Sonic Impact T-Amp) on a shelf in the
garageand fed the SB3 (dc) power
line through the wall together with the audio line out. The SB3 is on a
nice silver & glass shelf in a corner of the kitchen. No wires visible.
The speakers are on both corners of the wall and the wires run through
the garage.

The little T-Amp uses little power and produces no noise so I just leave
it on.

Regards,
Peter

Bennett, Gavin \(LDN Int\)
2007-02-14, 04:26
Peter,

Thanks - I am trying to a bit greener to compensate for leaving 2 PCs on 24x7 so would prefer an Auto-On type amp.

The Zamp mentioned in another post is c. 250 which for playing back MP3s via the Slimp3 seems a bit excessive.

The old Slimp3 does a good job, in fact I have two of them and one SB2. Pervesely the SB2 gets the least use as it is in the lounge where we do not listen to much music.

Gavin

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aubuti
2007-02-14, 04:38
Two things come to mind. One is swap the kitchen Slimp3 with the little-used SB2 from the lounge, and make use of the IRBlaster. The other is to get the Sonic Impact T Amp that Peter mentions, put it somewhere discreet, and turn it on/off manually. It is really very small. And I guess a third thing is to look for an amp capable of auto on/off based on receiving audio signals that is less expensive than the Parasound Zamp. I'm pretty sure there are some out there, but I don't know any names offhand.

Good luck, and let us know what you decide -- I'm thinking along similar lines for later this year.

mflint
2007-02-14, 06:48
I'm thinking along similar lines for later this year.
Me too - so I've subscribed to this thread!

I was thinking of putting a power switch for the amp underneath the wall unit, next to the SB2... but I'm open to ideas!

Matthew

Bennett, Gavin \(LDN Int\)
2007-02-14, 08:03
Aubuti - thanks

Mathew - the reason I have shied away from a combined power switch for
SLimp3 & Amp is because I love the RSS news ticker whilst I make my
morining cup of tea. I know this doesn't realy fit with "trying to be a
bit green" - but hey I'm only human!

I have spent a lot of time "googling" for an auto on/off amp but can
only find v. expensive ones

Using the SB2 from the lounge & IRBlaster would work, I can't realy
think of a reason against it but I know there would be a WAF issue i.e.
the SB2 looks nicer than the Slimp3 in the lounge

Mark Lanctot
2007-02-14, 09:27
Thanks - I am trying to a bit greener to compensate for leaving 2 PCs on 24x7 so would prefer an Auto-On type amp.

The T-amp is extremely efficient - according to its specs, 88% efficient with an 8-ohm load at 10W output.

Plus it's only capable of 10W/ch into a typical 8-ohm load, so that's only 2.4W wasted at full power.

With no signal the waste is likely in the 10-100 mW range. The auto-on circuit of an amp so equipped probably uses more than that...

aubuti
2007-02-14, 11:09
...I can't realy think of a reason against it but I know there would be a WAF issue i.e. the SB2 looks nicer than the Slimp3 in the lounge

I can't claim to have a firm understanding of WAF aesthetics, but maybe you could try the argument that the SB2 looks so much nicer than the Slimp3 in the kitchen.........;o)

peter
2007-02-14, 13:56
Mark Lanctot wrote:
> Bennett, Gavin \(LDN Int\);180470 Wrote:
>
>> Thanks - I am trying to a bit greener to compensate for leaving 2 PCs on
>> 24x7 so would prefer an Auto-On type amp.
>>
>
> The T-amp is extremely efficient - according to its specs, 88%
> efficient with an 8-ohm load at 10W output.
>
> Plus it's only capable of 10W/ch into a typical 8-ohm load, so that's
> only 2.4W wasted -at full power-.
>
> With no signal the waste is likely in the 10-100 mW range. The auto-on
> circuit of an amp so equipped probably uses more than that...
>

I considered adding an Ampswitch circuit to it (Felix' plugin), which
could well be housed in the battery compartment, but then I thought the
same thing. That the circuit probably would use as much power as the Amp
itself. ;)

Regards,
Peter

Bokenrosie
2007-02-22, 15:09
AudioSource Amp ONE for $200 will turn itself off when SB3 is not sending it information. I was all set to buy this until I remembered that I have a big Onkyo M504 gathering dust. I'm waiting on the ceiling speakers from partsexpress and the SB3 will get flush mounted to wall with DC and patch cables going to amp in the basement directly below.

peterw
2007-02-22, 18:28
If your Slimserver host runs Linux/Unix and has a serial port, for $15 - $30 you could get some X-10 Firecracker gear and use my BottleRocket plugin to control power to the Onkyo, especially if you can't use IRBlaster.
http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BottleRocket.html

-Peter