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thesil
2007-02-05, 07:38
I currently use my SB3 running wirelessly on my MAC OSX to a pretty decent audio system; NHT speakers, Velodyne Subwoofer, Parasound HCA 1000 power amp, etc. I have an older NAD intergrated amp used to power my outdoor Bose speakers that I primarily use in the warmer months by the pool. My question is this: Should I invest in another Squeezbox or purchase an Apple Airport express for that application. I've heard good and bad reviews on the
airport, such as: it will screw up your current wireless system; or, it's the best thing since sliced bread. It's only $99 and outside listening is not that critical as inside serious listening, but is it worth it? Any feed back would be appreciated.

Thanks,
GS

p.s. I originally posted this on audiophile, but I guess a general forum would be the better place

Patrick Dowling
2007-02-05, 07:47
I helped a friend of create a similar setup. We used cat 5 network
cable combining pairs to for the left and right channels and added
rca ends to it. The cable was then hooked ot up to his receiver's
tape monitor loop to feed his amp for his pool speakers. It was an
experiment but it worked and it sounds good. I'm sure there's signal
loss but none that can be heard outside. The cable length was around
75 feet.


On Feb 5, 2007, at 8:38 AM, thesil wrote:

>
> I currently use my SB3 running wirelessly on my MAC OSX to a pretty
> decent audio system; NHT speakers, Velodyne Subwoofer, Parasound HCA
> 1000 power amp, etc. I have an older NAD intergrated amp used to power
> my outdoor Bose speakers that I primarily use in the warmer months by
> the pool. My question is this: Should I invest in another Squeezbox or
> purchase an Apple Airport express for that application. I've heard
> good
> and bad reviews on the
> airport, such as: it will screw up your current wireless system; or,
> it's the best thing since sliced bread. It's only $99 and outside
> listening is not that critical as inside serious listening, but is it
> worth it? Any feed back would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> GS
>
> p.s. I originally posted this on audiophile, but I guess a general
> forum would be the better place
>
>
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thesil
2007-02-05, 08:22
So that worked with on the same wireless network as SB? Why was the cat5 cable necessary? With my setup, I lready have my amp connected to outside speakers. All I want to do is add an Airport Express into the mix for the outside. I was wondering if that would cause a problem with my current wireless network that SS runs off of now.

Patrick Dowling
2007-02-05, 08:52
All the cat 5 cable did was carry the audio signal to the other amp.
Cat 5 cable was used since it's inexpensive and I already had it. In
my friends setup the SB3 is connected to his primary stereo and we
piggybacked on the audio from his SB3 to feed another amp. It
doesn't matter if the SB3 is connected wired or wireless. It's an
inexpensive option if you can run the cable v.s. buying an Airport
Express or an additional SB3.

In you original post I thought you were debating on either a SB3 or
Airport Express and I threw in a third option. If it was my setup I
would go with a second SB3 as it's a more flexible setup i.e. have
players in sync or playing different music. But for my friend cost
was an issue.

On Feb 5, 2007, at 9:22 AM, thesil wrote:

>
> So that worked with on the same wireless network as SB? Why was the
> cat5
> cable necessary? With my setup, I lready have my amp connected to
> outside speakers. All I want to do is add an Airport Express into the
> mix for the outside. I was wondering if that would cause a problem
> with
> my current wireless network that SS runs off of now.
>
>
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aubuti
2007-02-05, 08:57
If I understand Patrick correctly, the cat5 cable was being used as an audio cable to connect one amp to the other, using a line level connection. Think of it as extending the SB to reach your secondary amp. Using regular (unbalanced) audio cables over distances more than 1-2 meters often results in too much interference.

I think I misunderstood what you were trying to do when I replied to your post in the audiophile forum. I've never used an Airport Express, but from what I've heard from others it shouldn't cause havoc on your network. Unless I'm missing something, you would end up with two basically parallel systems:

1) Mac (running slimserver) > router > SB > Parasound

2) Mac (running iTunes) > router > Airport Express > NAD

with the Mac being the same computer at the base of both systems. Is that about it?

If I were in your situation I would think hard about trying to find someway to put control of your outside music outside, where you listen to it. That could be as crude as moving your NAD to someplace near a window and attaching another SB which you can control from poolside, or something more refined. Search the forums for some nice outdoor-based setups that people have cooked up. But if you don't mind continuing to run back into the house to manage your tunes, I would say it doesn't matter much which you choose.

thesil
2007-02-05, 12:53
Yes, that's about it. right now, my secondary system for poolside is the NAD and I use an iPod connected to the amp with Monster Cable resulting in pretty good sound. Also connected is an XM radio, a CD changer and a NAD tuner. Actually, the NAD is in my basement near a window, so your idea of a second SB3 outside is a good one 'cause remote control is essential. The Airport Express just seemed like an inexpensive alternative since outside listening is limited to the warmer months.

Thanks for the input

GS