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bigmdime
2007-01-07, 18:57
Does anyone else have significant problems with the fishbone skin? It is by far the best skin function wise, but when i try to access the localhost:9000 on my server machine, using Fishbone ALWAYS shuts down the server on the SERVER machine. My laptop on the network has no problems accesing fishbone (and if i start the server and QUICKLY close the browser on the server machine before it fails to load, the server will stay on) - but keeping fishbone as the interace just causes tons of problems on the server machine, in particular it doesn't load and then the server shuts down.

Any solutions to this one?

Ben Sandee
2007-01-07, 20:04
On 1/7/07, bigmdime <bigmdime.2k2jxz1168221601 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone else have significant problems with the fishbone skin? It
> is by far the best skin function wise, but when i try to access the
> localhost:9000 on my server machine, using Fishbone ALWAYS shuts down
> the server on the SERVER machine. My laptop on the network has no
> problems accesing fishbone (and if i start the server and QUICKLY close
> the browser on the server machine before it fails to load, the server
> will stay on) - but keeping fishbone as the interace just causes tons
> of problems on the server machine, in particular it doesn't load and
> then the server shuts down.


It's unique to you. It sounds like your install is the culprit. If you
upgraded over a previous release then you probably have some old HTML
templates around. Someone very well may chime in with specific files to
remove, or you could do a reinstall (making sure you clean up the old
version first).

Ben

bigmdime
2007-01-07, 20:47
On 1/7/07, bigmdime <bigmdime.2k2jxz1168221601 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone else have significant problems with the fishbone skin? It
> is by far the best skin function wise, but when i try to access the
> localhost:9000 on my server machine, using Fishbone ALWAYS shuts down
> the server on the SERVER machine. My laptop on the network has no
> problems accesing fishbone (and if i start the server and QUICKLY close
> the browser on the server machine before it fails to load, the server
> will stay on) - but keeping fishbone as the interace just causes tons
> of problems on the server machine, in particular it doesn't load and
> then the server shuts down.


It's unique to you. It sounds like your install is the culprit. If you
upgraded over a previous release then you probably have some old HTML
templates around. Someone very well may chime in with specific files to
remove, or you could do a reinstall (making sure you clean up the old
version first).

Ben

i did many reinstalls - clean ones - before i realized that the culprit - for me - was fishbone. none of the reinstalls helped. i used to run 6.3 so if there are old files somewhere that may be causing this i'd be curious to know.

brucegrr
2007-01-08, 01:05
My system works perfectly with Fishbone, doing just as you have mentioned.

Were your "clean" installs totally clean? Deleting everything?
Over the past year I have had several instances of hangovers from previous versions. In each case the biggest problem was with the skins. A delete everything, clean install fixed the problems every time.

SumnerBoy
2007-01-08, 02:39
I just tried to run the Fishbone skin on my 6.5 server and found after a few clicks the server indeed shut down as well. I have been using SlimServer vanilla for months and have never seen this - only once I tried the Fishbone skin.

Ningj
2007-01-08, 02:57
Have you cleared your browser cache?

kdf
2007-01-08, 09:44
in the case of ANY server crash, the discussion goes nowhere until
someone can post the message from the event viewer or log related to
the crash.

btw - the subject line just about had me refuse to offer help on this.
no need to always open with insults people.

-kdf

ezkcdude
2007-01-08, 12:38
I also had problems with Fishbone on 6.5. It made SlimServer crash every time. I never figured it out either.

kdf
2007-01-08, 12:45
Quoting ezkcdude <ezkcdude.2k3x0n1168285201 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

>
> I also had problems with Fishbone on 6.5. It made SlimServer crash every
> time. I never figured it out either.

and again...event viewer or log information please.
It is also recommended that for any issue, try the latest of the 6.5.1
nightlies, as many problems have been corrected already. For the best
results, uninstall previous versions and erase all contents of the
c:\program files\slimserver folder (or whereever you have slimserver
installed). Save the slimserver.pref file if you wish to keep your
preferences across installs.

-kdf

Ur[s]uS
2007-01-08, 15:01
Does anyone else have significant problems with the fishbone skin? It is by far the best skin function wise, but when i try to access the localhost:9000 on my server machine, using Fishbone ALWAYS shuts down the server on the SERVER machine. My laptop on the network has no problems accesing fishbone (and if i start the server and QUICKLY close the browser on the server machine before it fails to load, the server will stay on) - but keeping fishbone as the interace just causes tons of problems on the server machine, in particular it doesn't load and then the server shuts down.

Any solutions to this one?

I love fishbone - it has greatly improved my web interface experience. Suggest setting the default skin to one of the other skins (so that when you load from browser on server machine it is never fishbone) - but access [server ip]:9000/fishbone/ from your laptop

i did have some crashes before installing a more recent 6.5.1 nightly (when browsing artwork) but these did not reappear

SumnerBoy
2007-01-08, 16:28
and again...event viewer or log information please.


I think I have found the event viewer log message for my failure. I have been playing with the Fishbone skin again today and it seems to be working ok (so far).

Hope this helps.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application
Event Category: None
Event ID: 0
Date: 8/01/2007
Time: 10:32:39 p.m.
User: N/A
Computer: KIWI
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( Application ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: Can't use string ("") as a subroutine ref while "strict refs" in use at C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Live365/Web.pm line 775.
.

kdf
2007-01-08, 17:53
Quoting SumnerBoy <SumnerBoy.2k47nz1168299001 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:


> information is part of the event: Can't use string ("") as a subroutine
> ref while "strict refs" in use at C:\Program
> Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Live365/Web.pm line 775.
>
Looks like you were trying to use Live365 at the time. I As the
plugin pages are shared, I would expect that you'll see this problem
with any skin unless as suggested before, you have left over
templates. Slimserver, prior to 6.5 plugins used custom pages for
each skin. These are no longer required, but were left behind
accidentally during the 6.5.0 install. Getting rid of the plugins
folder and re-installing would clear this up. 6.5.1 builds take care
of cleaning up this mess.

-kdf

SumnerBoy
2007-01-08, 18:05
Slimserver, prior to 6.5 plugins used custom pages for each skin. These are no longer required, but were left behind accidentally during the 6.5.0 install. Getting rid of the plugins folder and re-installing would clear this up. 6.5.1 builds take care of cleaning up this mess.


My bad - earlier I stated I had 6.5, I actually have 6.5.1 10738 (a relatively recent nightly build).

I only installed SlimServer late last year and have only ever had 6.5.1 installed - i.e. no previous versions.

I will let you know if I see this problem again and try and provide more details.

Thanks for your help in this!

kdf
2007-01-08, 18:15
np. One thing to note, the Fishbone skin remembers which page you
last chose from the pulldown menu. If, for instance, you were using
Live365 prior to the update, it might have remembered the page in a
way that isn't right post-upgrade. Unfortunately, clearing cookies
isn't covered in the installs currently.

It could be that the Live365 page loads lose something over time, and
that is causing the problem. I'm not a Live365 user, so I don't have
the longer term exposure.

It could also be a live365 issue, in which case you may find that you
see the problem using any other skin. Any of these cases will narrow
down cause.

cheers,
kdf

bigmdime
2007-01-08, 21:31
uS;168341']I love fishbone - it has greatly improved my web interface experience. Suggest setting the default skin to one of the other skins (so that when you load from browser on server machine it is never fishbone) - but access [server ip]:9000/fishbone/ from your laptop

i did have some crashes before installing a more recent 6.5.1 nightly (when browsing artwork) but these did not reappear

great idea. this seems to work fine. not sure why it's a problem on the server machine but running it causes a world of problems and since it isn't really necessary for me to run it on the server (i don't use the server to control my SB) this solution works well. how do i get the event log? i will try this - but i'm happy to see it's not just me having this problem

bigmdime
2007-01-08, 21:32
in the case of ANY server crash, the discussion goes nowhere until
someone can post the message from the event viewer or log related to
the crash.

btw - the subject line just about had me refuse to offer help on this.
no need to always open with insults people.

-kdf

didn't mean to offend on the subject line- i loved fishbone too and was just trying to be "light."

kdf
2007-01-08, 21:56
Quoting bigmdime <bigmdime.2k4lsc1168317302 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

> how do i get
> the event log?

start->control panel->administrator tools->event viewer

-kdf