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geraint smith
2006-12-31, 09:50
In the wake of (another's) solved Mystery of the Missing Janacek, I present in hope and anxiety and with a plaintive request for aid, a further Christmas conundrum: the Case of the Walkabout Bach.

Last week, according to Slimserver, I had around 600 albums ripped. This week, I seem to have 335. What has happened in the interim, I have absolutely no idea. If anybody else has any clues, I'd be very grateful to hear them.

I'm running an eMac 800MHz with iTunes, music stored on a separate LaCie Triple 250Gb HD. Nothing about this setup has changed recently. SlimServer is set to look at the iTunes library in the usual place (/users/username/music/iTunes), and for the music in the correct volume (/volumes/volumename/iTunes/iTunes music). Nothing about that has changed. Among the missing albums are all of the Gardiner/Monteverdi Choir Bach Cantata Pilgrimage so far released, which I'd ripped over the last six months or so (wonderful music, incidentally) - except for the one I ripped a week before Christmas which is, oddly enough, the Christmas one (vol. 15). I've checked the relevant folders. All of the Pilgrimage series is shown in iTunes. They are all - as carefully retagged - under the same artist, and the files themselves are all, as right and proper, contained in close proximity in the same artist folder on the LaCie drive. There appears to be no difference between the position, folder or file for vol. 15, and those for vols. 1,7,8,10 etc. iTunes plays them all with great alacrity. However, vol 15 exists in Slimserver, and vols 1,7,8,10 etc do not.

That also leaves another 300 albums that also seem to have vanished without trace, but are less clearly near-identical.

I have tried: deleting/rebuilding my iTunes library (although the contents of that are clearly correct); pointing Slimserver to the precise addresses of said library and to the music folders; pointing Slimserver to no addresses, but specifying merely "use iTunes"; leaving the "look for playlists in" field blank; filling ditto field in; rescanning (times about nine, at the last approximation); installing the latest nightly rebuild of 6.5.1; screaming a lot, which seemed to help at the time, but did not noticeably restore any music.

I am also running Coverscout and CDPedia, although why these should have any effect, I have not the faintest idea, either, being completely and utterly baffled. So, if anyone does have any ideas, I'd be very grateful indeed.

Oh, and while I'm on the whinge, Slimserver doesn't see all my carefully collected artwork, either, even though iTunes and CDPedia assure me that it is there, and visible. These helpful applications also assure me that the album count that Slimserver previously recorded was accurate, and should, if the world were a fairer place, be unchanged.....

Thanks in advance.

Geraint.

Justme
2007-01-02, 02:25
Do you have McAfee Internet Security installed?

If so, On McAfee Security Center, set the "Specify Types of files to scan" on real time scanning, to program files and documents only. The try rescanning library.

geraint smith
2007-01-02, 02:46
Do you have McAfee Internet Security installed?

If so, On McAfee Security Center, set the "Specify Types of files to scan" on real time scanning, to program files and documents only. The try rescanning library.

Nice thought, for which I'm grateful, but no. Mine is a Mac PPC system.

adamslim
2007-01-02, 06:35
What about length of filename, including path? Is there a limit within SS? I had trouble with some very long filenames a while back.

You could also try getting MP3Tag to cut and paste the tags (i.e. cutting whatever is there, be it ID2, ID3v1, ID3v2 etc etc and pasting just ID3v2) for an album that fails.

Adam

totoro
2007-01-02, 08:40
In the wake of (another's) solved Mystery of the Missing Janacek, I present in hope and anxiety and with a plaintive request for aid, a further Christmas conundrum: the Case of the Walkabout Bach.

Last week, according to Slimserver, I had around 600 albums ripped. This week, I seem to have 335. What has happened in the interim, I have absolutely no idea. If anybody else has any clues, I'd be very grateful to hear them.

I'm running an eMac 800MHz with iTunes, music stored on a separate LaCie Triple 250Gb HD. Nothing about this setup has changed recently. SlimServer is set to look at the iTunes library in the usual place (/users/username/music/iTunes), and for the music in the correct volume (/volumes/volumename/iTunes/iTunes music). Nothing about that has changed. Among the missing albums are all of the Gardiner/Monteverdi Choir Bach Cantata Pilgrimage so far released, which I'd ripped over the last six months or so (wonderful music, incidentally) - except for the one I ripped a week before Christmas which is, oddly enough, the Christmas one (vol. 15). I've checked the relevant folders. All of the Pilgrimage series is shown in iTunes. They are all - as carefully retagged - under the same artist, and the files themselves are all, as right and proper, contained in close proximity in the same artist folder on the LaCie drive. There appears to be no difference between the position, folder or file for vol. 15, and those for vols. 1,7,8,10 etc. iTunes plays them all with great alacrity. However, vol 15 exists in Slimserver, and vols 1,7,8,10 etc do not.

That also leaves another 300 albums that also seem to have vanished without trace, but are less clearly near-identical.

I have tried: deleting/rebuilding my iTunes library (although the contents of that are clearly correct); pointing Slimserver to the precise addresses of said library and to the music folders; pointing Slimserver to no addresses, but specifying merely "use iTunes"; leaving the "look for playlists in" field blank; filling ditto field in; rescanning (times about nine, at the last approximation); installing the latest nightly rebuild of 6.5.1; screaming a lot, which seemed to help at the time, but did not noticeably restore any music.

I am also running Coverscout and CDPedia, although why these should have any effect, I have not the faintest idea, either, being completely and utterly baffled. So, if anyone does have any ideas, I'd be very grateful indeed.

Oh, and while I'm on the whinge, Slimserver doesn't see all my carefully collected artwork, either, even though iTunes and CDPedia assure me that it is there, and visible. These helpful applications also assure me that the album count that Slimserver previously recorded was accurate, and should, if the world were a fairer place, be unchanged.....

Thanks in advance.

Geraint.

I had a similar problem recently. I uninstalled and reinstalled the server, and teverything showed up again.

You might be able to get it to work by shutting down the server, as well as any mysql processes, and deleting everything under $slimserver/server/cache/mysql.

I've also experienced weirdness wrt the album art. I had a similar experience with itunes and album art, and when I switched to flac, an apparently randomly different set of albums showed up with no artwork (looks like it was a much lower percentage of my collection).

Maybe you should enter a bug about the album art, if you think yours is reproducible. I'd vote for it. I didn't enter mine, as it seemed that reproducing it would be very hard.

geraint smith
2007-01-02, 09:21
What about length of filename, including path? Is there a limit within SS? I had trouble with some very long filenames a while back.

You could also try getting MP3Tag to cut and paste the tags (i.e. cutting whatever is there, be it ID2, ID3v1, ID3v2 etc etc and pasting just ID3v2) for an album that fails.

Adam

Thank you for the suggestions, Adam. I must investigate filename length further. I have to say, though, that I'd noticed no problem until the last ten days. I also rather think, though, that some of those missing are even shorter than "New York (Christmas)" which is what Slimserver's sole surviving album of Bach cantatas is called.

I'd been trying to find a tag editor for Mac. Does MP3Tag work with AIFF and Macs?

Sorry. I seem to be making free with the questions today.....

Geraint.

geraint smith
2007-01-02, 09:25
I had a similar problem recently. I uninstalled and reinstalled the server, and teverything showed up again.

You might be able to get it to work by shutting down the server, as well as any mysql processes, and deleting everything under $slimserver/server/cache/mysql.

I've also experienced weirdness wrt the album art. I had a similar experience with itunes and album art, and when I switched to flac, an apparently randomly different set of albums showed up with no artwork (looks like it was a much lower percentage of my collection).

Maybe you should enter a bug about the album art, if you think yours is reproducible. I'd vote for it. I didn't enter mine, as it seemed that reproducing it would be very hard.

That sounds a promising approach. I'll try uninstall/reinstall when I have a moment this evening. Thank you very much, Totoro. Is there any idiot's guide to uninstalling available, (including Mysql) or is it fairly self-evident.

I wonder whether all this is connected with a new nightly build. It may be the result of updating from 6.5 to a nightly build 6.5.1, although I can't now remember when I did that.

Anyway, thanks again. I'll give it a whirl later today - and take another look at the album art, too.

Geraint.

geraint smith
2007-01-03, 10:34
I had a similar problem recently. I uninstalled and reinstalled the server, and teverything showed up again.

You might be able to get it to work by shutting down the server, as well as any mysql processes, and deleting everything under $slimserver/server/cache/mysql.

I've also experienced weirdness wrt the album art. I had a similar experience with itunes and album art, and when I switched to flac, an apparently randomly different set of albums showed up with no artwork (looks like it was a much lower percentage of my collection).

Maybe you should enter a bug about the album art, if you think yours is reproducible. I'd vote for it. I didn't enter mine, as it seemed that reproducing it would be very hard.

Uninstall/reinstall did the trick. In the interim between starting this thread and anyone else taking it up, I had asked Slim tech support for their help. They opined that there was something wrong with the pref or database file, and suggested deleting the contents of various folders - including the one you mention, totoro - but SlimServer then refused to restart at all, so in the end they came down behind a full wipe and replace. They also gave me the idiots' guide I needed to doing it (which was jolly decent of them, as ever). The result is that the contents of iTunes and SlimServer now more or less match, and SS is also running (and scanning) much more quickly, as is the web interface.

While uninstalling, I ran a Spotlight search for Slim files, and discovered a .dmg file for the nightly build of 14 December. I knew I'd installed one nightly build, but wasn't sure exactly when. Since this fits the chronology more closely than I'd recalled, I have a feeling that this may have been the culprit. Which I hope isn't too ominous! Perhaps it was the attempt to instal this without uninstalling 6.5 that did the damage.

Anyway, many thanks for your help to totoro and all others kind enough to assist. I'll have another look at the artwork issue now, too, (although I don't think I have enough of an idea of how to report a bug actually to do that yet!)

Thanks again.

Geraint.

SteveEast
2007-01-03, 12:53
Since v7, iTunes has taken to squirrelling the artwork away in a location unknown to SS. The easiest workaround is to embed the artwork in each track. I believe there's a script to automate that on the Mac - search this site.

Steve.

geraint smith
2007-01-03, 15:54
Since v7, iTunes has taken to squirrelling the artwork away in a location unknown to SS. The easiest workaround is to embed the artwork in each track. I believe there's a script to automate that on the Mac - search this site.

Steve.

Thanks, Steve. I've been using Coverscout, which I thought did the unsquirrelling and embedding, but perhaps in ways mysterious to Slim. It shows me cover art for about 97 per cent of the albums - which is a lot more than SS knows about! I'll have a scout round myself for the script.

Geraint.