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Schindler
2006-12-16, 09:24
Hello

My sister is building a new house. Now as an all in one music system I recommended her a Squeezebox setup with a nas server.

Does anybody know how many Squeezeboxes simultaneous can stream mp3 music from a nas server? And are there connection limitations to the SlimServer and a limitation with wireless boxes?

She would need a setup of seven Squeezeboxes maybe half of them wireless.

Thanks
Christian

mherger
2006-12-16, 09:36
> Does anybody know how many Squeezeboxes can simultaneous stream mp3
> music from a nas server?

Please define NAS: there are boxes out there which can handle one or two,
others feature dual core processors. What model are you planning to use?

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Mark Lanctot
2006-12-16, 10:13
Generally the problem you run into is wireless bandwidth, not CPU.

3-4 wireless Squeezeboxes is pushing it a bit, but a good 802.11g network with decent signal strength ought to be able to handle even FLAC.

Marc Sherman
2006-12-16, 11:26
Schindler wrote:
> Hello
>
> My sister is building a new home. Now as an all in one music system I
> recommended her a Squeezebox setup with a nas server.
>
> Does anybody know how many Squeezeboxes can simultaneous stream mp3
> music from a nas server? And are there connection limitations to the
> SlimServer and a limitation with wireless boxes?

As others have mentioned, depending on the NAS model, the limiting
factor is quite likely to be wireless bandwidth, not CPU. If she's
building the home, I'd highly recommend wiring where-ever possible; you
might still have wireless for areas that can't be wired, but at least
you'll limit the wireless use to places where it's really needed. And
you can also save $50 per squeezebox if you get a wired-only version.

- Marc

JJZolx
2006-12-16, 11:56
If she's building a new house, have all the rooms wired with multiple runs of Cat6 cabling. I'd also put in more traditional whole house audio wiring in case the Squeezebox idea doesn't work out.

Then forget the "NAS" idea and locate a small server computer in the basement near the low voltage wiring junction. With wired SBs and a server of sufficient power you could run a couple dozen Squeezeboxes.

But Squeezeboxes really aren't designed for whole house audio, IMO. You can do it, but depending on the design, it can be expensive or else require bizarre wiring schemes.

Schindler
2006-12-16, 13:36
Actually I have no NAS in mind yet... It was only a idea to use Squeezeboxes and NAS. So with wired boxes and for example the NAS Slim Devices offers as a bundle - it won't work?

There are two families living in the house so a multiroom system would not be an option. There are other solutions too like sonos but they are way to expensive...

christian

peter
2006-12-16, 13:50
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:36:08 -0800, "Schindler"
<Schindler.2ixegn1166301601 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> said:
>
> Actually I have no NAS in mind yet... It was only a idea to use
> Squeezeboxes and NAS. So with wired boxes and for example the NAS Slim
> Devices offers as a bundle - it won't work?

I don't see why it shouldn't work, especially if you're using wired. I
have 5 SB's, 3 wireless SB3's, one wired SB3 and a wired SB1G and it
works very well for me. I'm mostly using one at the same time, sometimes
2, rarely three, never more...

> There are two families living in the house so a multiroom system would
> not be an option. There are other solutions too like sonos but they are
> way to expensive...

It's a nice idea. They would be sharing their music collection or would
they be running two slimservers?

Regards,
Peter

Pale Blue Ego
2006-12-16, 16:30
But Squeezeboxes really aren't designed for whole house audio, IMO. You can do it, but depending on the design, it can be expensive or else require bizarre wiring schemes.

Eh? I think they work quite well for whole-house audio. Much more elegant than running speaker wire all over the place. And each room has full control without running a separate control connection and wall panel.

7 SBs off 1 server would work fine, especially if the majority of them were wired. I would probably dedicate a cheap Dell to the server task, to be certain there's enough horsepower.

upstatemike
2006-12-16, 19:01
But Squeezeboxes really aren't designed for whole house audio, IMO. You can do it, but depending on the design, it can be expensive or else require bizarre wiring schemes.

I did not know they weren't for whole house audio! I have 6 SlimP3s, 1 SB1, 2 SB2s, and 4 SB3s and I usually run at least 5 or 6 in synch. I often run 3 different programs on 3 different sets of synched players. They are all wired units and I have never had any issues.

Schindler
2006-12-16, 23:58
I think she would have only one source - server or nas. So a nas is not as powerful as a pc build as server? I think they should be able to have all six or seven Squeezeboxes running at the same time...

christian

azinck3
2006-12-17, 00:04
But Squeezeboxes really aren't designed for whole house audio, IMO. You can do it, but depending on the design, it can be expensive or else require bizarre wiring schemes.

I agree that this seems like a bizarre statement and can only assume that Jim meant that SB's aren't really ideal for use as sources in traditional, centralized whole-house audio systems. Or maybe I'm reading him wrong...

Marc Sherman
2006-12-17, 07:04
Schindler wrote:
> I think she would have only one source - server or nas. So a nas is not
> as powerful as a pc build as server? I think they should be able to
> have all six or seven Squeezeboxes running at the same time...

Yeah, a NAS is basically a very small, low powered computer, with a lot
of hard drive space.

Slimserver used to run comfortably on a number of NAS models out there,
but as the software's gotten bigger (especially with the switch to mysql
as the db backend in 6.5), it's starting to really push the limits of
many of them.

If you have the flexibility to put in a real server computer, I'd do so.

- Marc