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oreillymj
2006-12-12, 13:02
Softsqueeze does not appear to work correctly with Java 6.
Strangley the applet will work with a web page, but the stand-alone app is borked.

Softsqueeze starts up but the interface then just hangs.

jonheal
2006-12-12, 13:42
Softsqueeze does not appear to work correctly with Java 6.
Strangley the applet will work with a web page, but the stand-alone app is borked.

Softsqueeze starts up but the interface then just hangs.

My advice is turn off automatic update notifications for EVERYTHING (except maybe Windows). Rarely, it seems, are they critical, and often, they turn out to bite you in the arse. (I'm thinking of Java and Acrobat, here.)

Ross L
2006-12-12, 13:49
My advice is turn off automatic update notifications for EVERYTHING (except maybe Windows). Rarely, it seems, are they critical, and often, they turn out to bite you in the arse. (I'm thinking of Java and Acrobat, here.)

I must agree. Automatic updates sometimes mean automatic nightmares.

oreillymj
2006-12-12, 13:49
Made the fatal mistake of believing this article and actually chose to upgrade.

http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t86031.html

Ben Sandee
2006-12-12, 13:49
On 12/12/06, jonheal <jonheal.2iq00z1165956301 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:
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>
> oreillymj;161878 Wrote:
> > Softsqueeze does not appear to work correctly with Java 6.
> > Strangley the applet will work with a web page, but the stand-alone app
> > is borked.
> >
> > Softsqueeze starts up but the interface then just hangs.
>
> My advice is turn off automatic update notifications for EVERYTHING
> (except maybe Windows). Rarely, it seems, are they critical, and often,
> they turn out to bite you in the arse. (I'm thinking of Java and
> Acrobat, here.)


Sun has not pushed out an automatic update to Java 6.

Ben

radish
2006-12-12, 14:35
Made the fatal mistake of believing this article and actually chose to upgrade.

http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t86031.html

?? The article is correct, Java 6 is great (and certainly has the best desktop performance yet). Doesn't mean that every app will run flawlessly on it though...if Softsqueeze is the only Java app you run it'd be worth waiting for it to be certified for it. Personally, I have around 10 different java versions installed, but I'm weird like that ;)

Ben Sandee
2006-12-12, 14:40
On 12/12/06, oreillymj <
oreillymj.2iq09b1165956601 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
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> Made the fatal mistake of believing this article and actually chose to
> upgrade.
>
> http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t86031.html


I don't see much in the article that is inaccurate. Let's try to avoid
turning this into a Java-bashing fest. You can have multiple versions of
Java installed at the same time. As long as you didn't uninstall your Java
1.4 or Java 5 installation, go to Control Panel -> Java on Windows. Choose
the "Java" tab and choose the lower of the two "View..." buttons (the one
related to JNLP). You should be on the "User" tab. You should see at least
two lines, just uncheck the 1.6 version to force JNLP launched apps like
SoftSqueeze to use 1.5.

FWIW, Java 6 is a huge improvement for the main application I'm using
(Eclipse), even though I target Java 1.4 for my apps. I'm sure Perl is far
superior however, and when Perl 6 is released SlimServer will run flawlessly
on it right away. ;-)

Ben

oreillymj
2006-12-12, 16:32
Yeh, I remember way back when, Java was supposed to be a language that you wrote once and it ran everywhere.

But then the language changed every 5 minutes while I was trying to learn it. Books where out of date by the time you'd completed reading them. Now you have J2EE, SE, ME and God knows what else this week.

Why would I expect backward compatibility, I should have just kept the last 10 versions of 1.5 installed.

Ben Sandee
2006-12-12, 16:41
On 12/12/06, oreillymj <
oreillymj.2iq7wb1165966501 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yeh, I remember way back when, Java was supposed to be a language that
> you wrote once and it ran everywhere.
>
> But then the language changed every 5 minutes while I was trying to
> learn it. Books where out of date by the time you'd completed reading
> them. Now you have J2EE, SE, ME and God knows what else this week.
>
> Why would I expect backward compatibility, I should have just kept the
> last 10 versions of 1.5 installed.


Is it really necessary to do this, in this forum? Let's focus on helping
people continue to use SoftSqueeze, and maybe even what changes are
necessary to get SoftSqueeze running on Java 6. If you want to raise the
Java vs. whatever issue there are plenty of places where you don't have a
captive audience more interested in SlimDevices topics.

Ben