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frui
2006-11-04, 23:17
I'm a complete newbie totally lost in the fun of my toy. There seems to be great potentials yet to be uncovered. I mostly want it to be a external soundcard, so that I can watch DVD, listen to midi files, or even play games with that great little BOX!

Technically it should not be that difficult. Basically squeezebox IS a wireless soundcard. I just don't see why it still must be used in a clumsy "database" mode which has to be reconstructed from time to time. All I want to see is a program that makes squeezebox appear in "sound and audio devices" under windows control panel.

Is it possible, or is it already achieved?

ceejay
2006-11-05, 00:56
Not as easy as you think. The question comes up quite a lot - search the forum for Shoutcast, which is the usual solution for this requirement. Note that using it to get the sound for a DVD you are watching will probably not work due to buffering/delay issues.

HTH
Ceejay

funkstar
2006-11-05, 03:52
Basically squeezebox IS a wireless soundcard.
But it's not. It is a stand alone music player that recieves the audio data from a dedcated server. Think of it like this: you can get netwrok DVD players that can play video files saved on a network, this does not make it a PC monitor. The Squeezebox is the same, it plays music hosted on a server (or streamed over the internet) but that does not make it a sound card.

Technically, it should be possible to write drivers for it that would let you use it as an external sound card, but that hasn't been a priority for SD so far.

Mark Lanctot
2006-11-05, 08:19
Basically squeezebox IS a wireless soundcard.

To expand on what funkstar wrote, it's not. It actually reconstructs the audio data from packets.

The audio is broken up into packets and reassembled by the Squeezebox. This allows some nice things to happen, like buffering and error correction, so you get bit-perfect playback because it's equivalent to sending a computer file over wireless.

This is not like how a soundcard works. It's how internal LAN file sharing works.

tommypeters
2006-11-05, 10:37
This is not like how a soundcard works. It's how file sharing works.
Don't say that, some moronic legislator might want to render the SB3 illegal... ;)

Mark Lanctot
2006-11-05, 10:47
Don't say that, some moronic legislator might want to render the SB3 illegal... ;)

D'oh! I meant like file sharing over a LAN, not p2p! Edit coming up.

Manelus
2006-11-05, 13:52
I rip or download a file... simplest thing would be send the .cue file or file itself to slimserver -> tranporter and play it.
Now: move to 1TB music folder... rescan the entire folder... go to slimserver and serch the one you have just added... All in all a long workaround.
I think we should be able to play it right from the Windows folder.
Folder -> Slimserver (no rescan) -> transporter (or squeezebox)

bpa
2006-11-05, 14:26
This is off topic from the OP but to play a single file you can use "Tune-in" with the file:// prefix to the file name. SS will add to the database and play it.

smc2911
2006-11-05, 14:27
I think we should be able to play it right from the Windows folder.
Folder -> Slimserver (no rescan) -> transporter (or squeezebox)
While you can't "send" the folder to the Slimserver, you certainly don't have to do a rescan. You can use the Browse Music Folders to go straight to the folder newly ripped music. That, incidentally, will add the new tracks to the database along the way.

cashman
2006-11-05, 15:17
Well, I love my SB3 too, however the only _wireless sound card_ I know of is this

http://www.sondigo.com/sirocco/overview

Apparently, it will play any audio the PC can play including DRM.

Wirrunna
2006-11-05, 15:39
Have a look at this page of a Sondigo Sirocco review -> http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/10/31/sondigo_sirocco_review/page4.html
It explains the buffer delay problems that would make the sound out of sync with the video.

Manelus
2006-11-05, 18:03
While you can't "send" the folder to the Slimserver, you certainly don't have to do a rescan. You can use the Browse Music Folders to go straight to the folder newly ripped music. That, incidentally, will add the new tracks to the database along the way.

Thanks :)

frui
2006-11-05, 18:40
Wow, such enlightening replies! I didn't know there are such and such workarounds. I especailly like the "tune in" method. I will live with that.
Thanks a lot.
My problem is almost solved, yet I still think technically it would be possible to write a virtual driver for squeezebox to make it appear as a sound device under windows control panel.

stinkingpig
2006-11-05, 22:09
On 11/5/06, frui <frui.2gtv8z1162777501 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
> Wow, such enlightening replies! I didn't know there are such and such
> workarounds. I especailly like the "tune in" method. I will live with
> that.
> Thanks a lot.
> My problem is almost solved, yet I still think technically it would be
> possible to write a virtual driver for squeezebox to make it appear as
> a sound device under windows control panel.
>

sure it would be possible, but then everyone would complain about the
lag between deleting a file and hearing your living room speakers go
"BADONG".
--
"I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,
So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional

Marc Sherman
2006-11-06, 06:23
frui wrote:
> My problem is almost solved, yet I still think technically it would be
> possible to write a virtual driver for squeezebox to make it appear as
> a sound device under windows control panel.

I'm sure patches would be welcome.

- Marc