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  • Nostromo
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 375

    The tale of the tenacious tag

    OK, here's something weird.

    I took Philip Glass's "Fog of War" album (ripped with iTunes in AAC @ 224 kbps) from my iTunes folder and copied it in my Slimserver music folder. I had tagged it in the "classique" genre in iTunes. But after I copied it in my Slimserver music folder, for an obscure reason, its not tagged as "classique" anymore in Slimserver, but as "classical". I know, they're the same, but I now get both the "classical" and "classique" when I browse genres.

    I checked the tags with Tag&rename and it identified the genre as "classical". So I changed it back to "classique", cleared my browser's cache and then clicked rescan. But it didn't work: the damn thing is still classified as "classical".

    VERSION INFO

    SlimServer Version: 6.5.0 - 9916 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252
    Last edited by Nostromo; 2006-10-11, 15:52.
    http://www.last.fm/user/Guermantez/
  • Jack Coates
    Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 833

    #2
    The tale of the tenacious tag

    On 10/11/06, Nostromo <
    Nostromo.2fimbn1160573101 (AT) no-mx...limdevices.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > OK, here's something weird.
    >
    > I took Philip Glass's "Fog of War" album (ripped with iTunes in AAC @
    > 224 kbps) from my iTunes folder and copied it in my Slimserver music
    > folder. I tagged it in the "classique" genre in iTunes. But after I
    > copied it in my Slimserver music folder, for an obscure reason, its not
    > tagged as "classique" anymore in Slimserver, but as "classical". I know,
    > they're the same, but I now get both the "classical" and "classique"
    > when I browse genres.
    >
    > I checked the tags with Tag&rename and it identified the genre as
    > "classical". So I changed it back to "classique", cleared my browser's
    > cache and then clicked rescan. But it didn't work: the damn thing is
    > still classified as "classical".
    >
    > VERSION INFO
    >
    > SlimServer Version: 6.5.0 - 9916 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252
    >
    >
    >

    Did you do a full wipe and scan, or just a "look for changes"?
    --
    "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,
    So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional

    "That which does not kill you makes you bitter and cynical." -- Too Much Coffee Man

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    • Nostromo
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 375

      #3
      Yes, I have. Full wipe and scan.
      http://www.last.fm/user/Guermantez/

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      • Jack Coates
        Senior Member
        • May 2005
        • 833

        #4
        Re: The tale of the tenacious tag

        On 10/11/06, Nostromo <
        Nostromo.2fit9n1160582101 (AT) no-mx...limdevices.com> wrote:
        >
        >
        > Yes, I have. Full wipe and scan.
        >
        >

        Then one of two things is happening -- either the files have two tags (they
        can have id3v1 and id3v2 tags at the same time), or SS is guessing based on
        folder structure and file name. I don't think it guesses genre tags though,
        so the two tags thing is most likely. MP3Tag can make it clear by adding a
        tag type column, see if T&R can do that.

        --
        "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,
        So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional

        "That which does not kill you makes you bitter and cynical." -- Too Much Coffee Man

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        • ModelCitizen
          Senior Member
          • May 2005
          • 3350

          #5
          Originally posted by Nostromo
          Yes, I have. Full wipe and scan.
          I do wonder if this works correctly all the time on XP.
          I had something similar. Slimserver appeared to hold on to a tag that had been removed from a file a while ago. Even after doing a full wipe and rescan SlimServer still included this tag. I only managed to get rid of the entry by stopping SlimServer, deleting my whole cache directory (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache) and then restarting SlimServer again (at which point it rebuilds the whole cache and initiates a rescan).
          I'd be interested to know if you find the same.
          MC
          Take care of your tongue. It is in a wet place and can easily slip.

          Lounge: Naim NDX with Touch as controller, Naim NAP 180, NAC 82, NAPSC, HiCap, Shahinian Arc speakers
          Kitchen/outside: Chromecast audio, Azatom iBigBoy 2 (500W)
          And... SB+, radios & tons of Chromecasts... all run from LMS and controlled via Material Skin on any nearby device and a couple of Touchs.

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          • Nostromo
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 375

            #6
            Then one of two things is happening -- either the files have two tags (they
            can have id3v1 and id3v2 tags at the same time), or SS is guessing based on
            folder structure and file name. I don't think it guesses genre tags though,
            so the two tags thing is most likely. MP3Tag can make it clear by adding a
            tag type column, see if T&R can do that.
            Yes, Tag&rename can filter tag types. And there doesn't seem to be a id3v1 or a id3v2 tag, just a MP4/M4a tag.
            http://www.last.fm/user/Guermantez/

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            • Nostromo
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2006
              • 375

              #7
              Originally posted by ModelCitizen
              I do wonder if this works correctly all the time on XP.
              I had something similar. Slimserver appeared to hold on to a tag that had been removed from a file a while ago. Even after doing a full wipe and rescan SlimServer still included this tag. I only managed to get rid of the entry by stopping SlimServer, deleting my whole cache directory (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache) and then restarting SlimServer again (at which point it rebuilds the whole cache and initiates a rescan).
              I'd be interested to know if you find the same.
              MC
              Did you delete the whole cache folder or just the FileCache folder?
              http://www.last.fm/user/Guermantez/

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              • ModelCitizen
                Senior Member
                • May 2005
                • 3350

                #8
                I deleted the whole of this folder:
                C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache
                MC
                Take care of your tongue. It is in a wet place and can easily slip.

                Lounge: Naim NDX with Touch as controller, Naim NAP 180, NAC 82, NAPSC, HiCap, Shahinian Arc speakers
                Kitchen/outside: Chromecast audio, Azatom iBigBoy 2 (500W)
                And... SB+, radios & tons of Chromecasts... all run from LMS and controlled via Material Skin on any nearby device and a couple of Touchs.

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                • Nostromo
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 375

                  #9
                  Ok, I deleted the whole cache and it didn't work. I think I'll erase it and rerip it.
                  http://www.last.fm/user/Guermantez/

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