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rbl
2006-10-10, 14:17
Does anyone know how I can get BBC radio 3 on my SB? Also is it decent sound quality?

I know AlienBBC but from what I can see this doesn't give access to bbc3. Also for some reason I can't use AlienBBC on my system since if I try to access www.bbc.co.uk in IE6 it just tells me it can't find the website for some inexplicable reason - everything else works fine and disabling all firewalls etc. makes no difference. Any help much appreciated !

andyg
2006-10-10, 14:19
There are new WMA streams for Radio 1 through 4 but they are only available to UK listeners and require SlimServer 6.5.1. We'll be pushing these into Picks after the 6.5.1 release.

http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio1/wm_asx/aod/radio1.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio2/wm_asx/aod/radio2.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio3/wm_asx/aod/radio3.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio4/wm_asx/aod/radio4.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio4/wm_asx/aod/radio4_lw.asx

bpa
2006-10-10, 14:32
AlienBBC will give you access to Radio 3 - quality in RealAudio is less than FM.

If you can't get radio 3 then there is some problem usually installation or setup.
Do you not see Radio 3 in the menus ?

rbl
2006-10-10, 14:47
Andyg - many thanks - these links work although having listened for all of 5 minutes the sound quality appears to be a lot worse than FM. Are there any better quality ways?

bpa - to be honest I haven't got AlienBBC working since I can't access www.bbc.co.uk. HAve no idea why - am fairly sure it is not a firewall problem. I can't ping their website either. If I do get it working is it good sound quality?

Triode
2006-10-10, 14:54
There are new WMA streams for Radio 1 through 4 but they are only available to UK listeners and require SlimServer 6.5.1. We'll be pushing these into Picks after the 6.5.1 release.

http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio1/wm_asx/aod/radio1.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio2/wm_asx/aod/radio2.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio3/wm_asx/aod/radio3.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio4/wm_asx/aod/radio4.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio4/wm_asx/aod/radio4_lw.asx

Now available in WikiRadio if people can't wait! [Install http://wiki.slimdevices.com/plugin/attachments/WikiRadio/WikiRadio-0.5.pm and browse to WikiRadio]

bpa
2006-10-10, 15:10
AlienBBC won't work if you can't get www.bbc.co.uk to work on your browser.

What is your system and how does it connect to internet ?

Do you control the router or do you go connect to a network run by somebody else (e.g. College, Company) ?

I assume you have internet access and that you can browse various sites ? Can you access other media sites such as Virgin or NPR ?

rbl
2006-10-11, 00:41
AlienBBC won't work if you can't get www.bbc.co.uk to work on your browser.

What is your system and how does it connect to internet ?

Do you control the router or do you go connect to a network run by somebody else (e.g. College, Company) ?

I assume you have internet access and that you can browse various sites ? Can you access other media sites such as Virgin or NPR ?

It is a simple single user home setup, XP professional, with a broadband conection via the usual ethernet router / modem. Everything works 100% fine, and I can access all websites (including Virgin etc.) except www.bbc.co.uk. I used to be able to access the BBC as well until some months ago and I have no idea what changed. I can access www0.bbc.co.uk but this is of limited use. I do have Norton Internet Security but disabling that makes no difference and I keep the Windows firewall disabled.

I know there is some sort of mapping file in Windows which enables you to enter say "BBC" into IE which is then mapped to "www.bbc.co.uk". I sometimes wonder if this file has got an error in it but I don't know how to find this file anymore. If I ping www.bbc.co.uk from a DOS box then it seems to ping 212.58.224.56. Don't know how to check if this is correct.

Any ideas very gratefully received!!

bpa
2006-10-11, 00:55
What message do you get when you try to access www.bbc.co.uk ?

I think you may have accidentally put www.bbc.co.uk into some sort of "parental control" list. Sometimes disabling firewall etc. do not disable these.

Another possibility is that namesever is not working - perhaps there is an entry for www.bbc.co.uk in your hosts files.

Open a command prompt and try the command
nslookup www.bbc.co.uk

rbl
2006-10-11, 01:29
IE just shows a page stating that it can not find www.bbc.co.uk. It takes quite a while (say 30 seconds) to come to this conclusion. I would think that the long delay would suggest it is not a parental control thing. Unfort I am not at home so will have to try the nslookup this evening. Any idea what the result should be? Once again many thanks for the help...

Mark Lanctot
2006-10-11, 06:21
It is a simple single user home setup, XP professional, with a broadband conection via the usual ethernet router / modem. Everything works 100% fine, and I can access all websites (including Virgin etc.) except www.bbc.co.uk. I used to be able to access the BBC as well until some months ago and I have no idea what changed. I can access www0.bbc.co.uk but this is of limited use. I do have Norton Internet Security but disabling that makes no difference and I keep the Windows firewall disabled.

I know there is some sort of mapping file in Windows which enables you to enter say "BBC" into IE which is then mapped to "www.bbc.co.uk". I sometimes wonder if this file has got an error in it but I don't know how to find this file anymore. If I ping www.bbc.co.uk from a DOS box then it seems to ping 212.58.224.56. Don't know how to check if this is correct.

Any ideas very gratefully received!!

There are two mechanisms that handle this: your DNS server and your HOSTS file.

The DNS server resolves IP addresses like 212.58.224.56 to human-readable names like www.bbc.co.uk. It's controlled by an external server outside of Windows and largely beyond your control - the only control you have over it is what DNS server to use, you usually use a primary and secondary one of your ISP. If a ping resolves the name to a number then DNS lookup is working properly.

The other mechanism in Windows is a redirect file which is generally used for special cases and to bypass the DNS server. It's called a HOSTS file and you'll find it in C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc - it's called HOSTS (no extension) and is a hidden file, you may have to go into Tools - Folder Options - View to see it. Edit it with Notepad. You should see a Microsoft blurb and only one entry: 127.0.0.1 localhost, which redirects the special 127.0.0.1 to localhost, i.e. itself. You shouldn't see anything else there.

If everything looks OK there something else is going on. I've seen sites do what you're describing when you block cookies they require. Firefox is a little more helpful with these, it will fail with "the site is loading in a way which will never complete. This sometimes occurs when you block cookies."

P.S. nslookup www.bbc.co.uk gives, for me:


*** Can't find server name for address 192.168.2.1: Non-existent domain
Server: resolver1.opendns.com
Address: 208.67.222.222

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.bbc.net.uk
Address: 212.58.240.33
Aliases: www.bbc.co.uk

Note the DNS server is listed. Also note my primary DNS server, 192.168.2.1 (i.e. my DSL modem) is sometimes flaky. ;-)

rbl
2006-10-12, 12:51
Well I looked in the hosts file and sure enough there was the culprit. All works now. Thank you very much for sorting this out for me - I can now listen to the BBC on my Squeezebox! Many thanks ... Rob

rbl
2006-10-15, 03:07
There are new WMA streams for Radio 1 through 4 but they are only available to UK listeners and require SlimServer 6.5.1. We'll be pushing these into Picks after the 6.5.1 release.

http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio1/wm_asx/aod/radio1.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio2/wm_asx/aod/radio2.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio3/wm_asx/aod/radio3.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio4/wm_asx/aod/radio4.asx
http://www0.bbc.co.uk/radio4/wm_asx/aod/radio4_lw.asx

One last question, how do I get these "installed" into slimserver so that I can access them whenever I want?

bpa
2006-10-15, 04:17
Install WikiRadio (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?WikiRadio ) - somebody has already created a file with them. I believe they may be added to the BBC streams in Slim Picks in the future.

If you want your own list - install MyPicks as well.