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scalesr1
2006-10-03, 03:31
I just installed 6.5 over 6.31 - working well at present though I have
noticed a couple of things that I have tried to resolve but the resolution
has yet to materialise!



Firstly, in both web and player interface - if I look for Robert Plant - he
no longer appears under 'R' but 'Robert Plant' is listed under 'P' (for
Plant).



Robert just about everyone else appears under 'R' (Palmer for example).



I use Tag & Rename and have looked at the Artist field and they are
formatted (as far as I can tell) the same for both Roberts - that is
Firstname<space>Secondname - however, they are now appearing in different
places.



Where should I look further? I am assuming at this stage that it will be in
the handling of the tags and I should therefore look at the tags in more
detail - which I will!



The second observation is that when I list 'All Songs' for any given artist,
I am sure that they used to be listed in alphabetical order - they no longer
appear like that - instead it looks like the appear to be listed in one long
list album after album.



I have stared at all the settings but the answer eludes me still - any
pointers gratefully received.



Kind regards



Richard Scales

Ben Sandee
2006-10-03, 06:17
On 10/3/06, Richard Scales <richard (AT) scalesweb (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> Where should I look further? I am assuming at this stage that it will be
> in the handling of the tags and I should therefore look at the tags in more
> detail which I will!
>
Look and see if you have APEv2 tags in your MP3 file that specify the
ARTISTSORT. You can use mp3tag to look at the APEv2 tags:
http://www.mp3tag.de/en/index.html.

Either that or a TSOA id3v2 tag (which tag&rename doesn't support as far as
I know nor does mp3tag). You can view all the tags using a command line tool
like id3v2 on Linux. I don't know of a tool that will set the TSOA tag
except for musicbrainz.org's tagger.

Ben

slimpy
2006-10-03, 06:47
Either that or a TSOA id3v2 tag (which tag&rename doesn't support as far as
I know nor does mp3tag). You can view all the tags using a command line tool
like id3v2 on Linux. I don't know of a tool that will set the TSOA tag
except for musicbrainz.org's tagger.
It is actually the TSOP frame (performer sort order) and not TSOA (album sort order) you should look for.
You can also use any text editor to open the audio file. You should find ID3 frames at the beginning and APE frames at the end of the file.

-s.

Ben Sandee
2006-10-03, 08:20
On 10/3/06, slimpy <slimpy.2f3u5b1159883401 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:
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> It is actually the TSOP frame (performer sort order) and not TSOA
> (album sort order) you should look for.


Yes you're right, performer.

Ben

Mark Lanctot
2006-10-03, 15:25
Incidentally, Mp3tag does support TSOA:

http://www.anytag.de/forums/index.php?showtopic=2614

...not that those instructions say how to display it, but it seems to be able to write to it.

scalesr1
2006-10-03, 23:01
Thank you for this - I have tried MP3Tag but have thus far failed to view
TSOA.

One thing that confuses me though is that all the CD's concerned were ripped
by me using the same application (Music Magic Jukebox back then) and as far
as I can remember - nothing different was specified when ripping -
Additionally, All albums for Robert Plant / Robert Palmer are affected - it
is as if SS has correctly grouped them all correctly under the same artist
name but has then made a decision based on something about the artist name
which results in the symptoms now displayed.

I shall persevere!

Richard


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Incidentally, Mp3tag does support TSOA:

http://www.anytag.de/forums/index.php?showtopic=2614

....not that those instructions say how to display it, but it seems to
be able to write to it.


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