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The1FastCar
2003-12-07, 19:33
The latest in my saga.. (like anyone really cares... ; ) )
Well, Now I have 3 systems currently running a SlimServer

3.2 gHz, 2Gig RAM, WinXP "Virgin system" -> All is Perfect.
1.7 gHz, 1Gig RAM, WinXP "minimal, but Norton & ZoneAlarm are running*"->
Lots of issues
700 mHz, 1Gig RAM, Win 98 running HomeSeer (Home Automation) -> All is
Perfect.
(And HomeSeer is not a light process. It Has Voice Recognition + Text to
speech etc...)

So I conclude that there is something (software) running on that middle
system (1.7) that is causing drops.
When I manually stop Everything (including Norton, and that includes all
their Services) then the system will at-least play for a few minutes prior
to dropping, But the music will resume. This is an improvement.

*I think the problem is in ZoneAlarm. (had issues here before, and stopping
it does not solve the problem)
I think I will have to Un-install ZoneAlarm (and that's no easy task.. to
make sure it's completely gone)

My preference is to migrate things around and put the Home automation and
Slim on a New install of WinXP for the 1.7gHz box.

but, if someone wants me too, experiment with this Zone alarm + Norton....

I'm curious what changed in 5.0.1 to make it play so nasty with my
system.......

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sims
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 3:27 PM
To: 'SlimDevices Discussion'
Subject: [slim] Dropouts ( Does this thing work under XP?)



Hi,

I too have started suffering dropouts since (I think) upgrading to 5.0.1.
Initially I noticed it happening while streaming internet radio stations,
but then noticed it while playing songs too. The dropouts aren't as
frequent as others have reported, happening perhaps after playing two or
three songs. The dropouts sometimes sound like the music is stuttering
(similar to when the signal on some FM tuners isn't quite strong enough and
the tuner intermittently mutes the audio), and other times sounds like a
short burst of the song is repeatedly playing over and over. Pausing and
un-pausing the song, or skipping to another track, usually fixes the
dropouts for a few minutes. Also, sometimes when the dropouts occur I get
corruption of letters on the display. When this happens the remote often
becomes inoperable and I have to use the web interface. I've never seen the
problem before in any previous version and have had the SliMP3 since about
the time of V4.2.1

Setup is the SliMP3 directly connected via a crossover cable to a P4 3GHz PC
running Windows XP. The same PC is also on a wireless network, but the
wired and wireless networks are separate and so shouldn't affect one
another.

Hope this helps,

Matt.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of The1FastCar
Sent: 06 December 2003 22:20
To: Discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] Dropouts ( Does this thing work under XP?)


So am I the only one running XP and having a problem?
Should I build a *nix system?

Here's my story..

WinXP, 'Virgin system'. Compaq 1.7Ghz, 1 Gig Ram, 3 Gig swap, 60Gig disk.
Linksys router with only the WinXP machine and the Squeezebox on it
Hard-wired to the Slim
(Tried WiFi and had same experience)

5.0.0 Slim Server / Firmware
approx 5 drops outs per song 1 second each. (rarely a song or 2 will w/o
error.)

5.0.1 Slim Server / Firmware
I Might be able to get 2 seconds of a song to play.

Tried all the nightly builds, but the latest Firmware seems to cause a
problem...?

Jack Coates
2003-12-07, 21:02
On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 18:33, The1FastCar wrote:
> The latest in my saga.. (like anyone really cares... ; ) )
> Well, Now I have 3 systems currently running a SlimServer
>
> 3.2 gHz, 2Gig RAM, WinXP "Virgin system" -> All is Perfect.
> 1.7 gHz, 1Gig RAM, WinXP "minimal, but Norton & ZoneAlarm are
> running*"-> Lots of issues
> 700 mHz, 1Gig RAM, Win 98 running HomeSeer (Home Automation) -> All
> is Perfect.
> (And HomeSeer is not a light process. It Has Voice Recognition +
> Text to speech etc...)
>
> So I conclude that there is something (software) running on that
> middle system (1.7) that is causing drops.
> When I manually stop Everything (including Norton, and that includes
> all their Services) then the system will at-least play for a few
> minutes prior to dropping, But the music will resume. This is an
> improvement.
>
> *I think the problem is in ZoneAlarm. (had issues here before, and
> stopping it does not solve the problem)
> I think I will have to Un-install ZoneAlarm (and that's no easy task..
> to make sure it's completely gone)
>
> My preference is to migrate things around and put the Home automation
> and Slim on a New install of WinXP for the 1.7gHz box.
>
> but, if someone wants me too, experiment with this Zone alarm +
> Norton....
>
> I'm curious what changed in 5.0.1 to make it play so nasty with my
> system.......

5.x means TCP transport instead of UDP -- that might be what has ZA's
knickers in a bunch. That app does produce a log, right?
....
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dean
2003-12-08, 17:29
Hi,

What Norton software are you running?

-dean


On Dec 7, 2003, at 6:33 PM, The1FastCar wrote:
> The latest in my saga.. (like anyone really cares... ; ) )
> Well, Now I have 3 systems currently running a SlimServer
>
> 3.2 gHz, 2Gig RAM, WinXP "Virgin system" -> All is Perfect.
> 1.7 gHz, 1Gig RAM, WinXP "minimal, but Norton & ZoneAlarm are
> running*"-> Lots of issues
> 700 mHz, 1Gig RAM, Win 98 running HomeSeer (Home Automation) -> All
> is Perfect.
> (And HomeSeer is not a light process. It Has Voice Recognition +
> Text to speech etc...)
>
> So I conclude that there is something (software) running on that
> middle system (1.7) that is causing drops.
> When I manually stop Everything (including Norton, and that includes
> all their Services) then the system will at-least play for a few
> minutes prior to dropping, But the music will resume. This is an
> improvement.
>
> *I think the problem is in ZoneAlarm. (had issues here before, and
> stopping it does not solve the problem)
> I think I will have to Un-install ZoneAlarm (and that's no easy task..
> to make sure it's completely gone)
>
> My preference is to migrate things around and put the Home automation
> and Slim on a New install of WinXP for the 1.7gHz box.
>
> but, if someone wants me too, experiment with this Zone alarm +
> Norton....
>
> I'm curious what changed in 5.0.1 to make it play so nasty with my
> system.......
> -----Original Message-----
> From:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com]On Behalf OfMatt Sims
> Sent:Sunday, December 07, 2003 3:27 PM
> To:'SlimDevices Discussion'
> Subject:RE: [slim] Dropouts ( Does this thing work under XP?)
>
> Hi,
>
> I too have started suffering dropouts since (I think) upgrading to
> 5.0.1. Initially I noticed it happening while streaming internet
> radio stations, but then noticed it while playing songs too. The
> dropouts aren't as frequent as others have reported, happening perhaps
> after playing two or three songs. The dropouts sometimes sound like
> the music is stuttering (similar to when the signal on some FM tuners
> isn't quite strong enough and the tuner intermittently mutes the
> audio), and other times sounds like a short burst of the song is
> repeatedly playing over and over. Pausing and un-pausing the song, or
> skipping to another track, usually fixes the dropouts for a few
> minutes. Also, sometimes when the dropouts occur I get corruption of
> letters on the display. When this happens the remote often becomes
> inoperable and I have to use the web interface. I've never seen the
> problem before in any previous version and have had the SliMP3 since
> about the time of V4.2.1
>
> Setup is the SliMP3 directly connected via a crossover cable to a P4
> 3GHz PC running Windows XP. The same PC is also on a wireless
> network, but the wired and wireless networks are separate and so
> shouldn't affect one another.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Matt.
> -----Original Message-----
> From:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com]On Behalf OfThe1FastCar
> Sent:06 December 2003 22:20
> To:Discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> Subject:[slim] Dropouts ( Does this thing work under XP?)
>
> So am I the only one running XP and having a problem?
>
>
> Should I build a *nix system?
>
> Here's my story..
>
> WinXP, 'Virgin system'. Compaq 1.7Ghz, 1 Gig Ram, 3 Gig swap, 60Gig
> disk.
> Linksys router with only the WinXP machine and the Squeezebox on it
> Hard-wired to the Slim
> (Tried WiFi and had same experience)
>
> 5.0.0 Slim Server / Firmware
> approx 5 drops outs per song 1 second each. (rarely a song or 2
> will w/o error.)
>
> 5.0.1 Slim Server / Firmware
> I Might be able to get 2 seconds of a song to play.
>
> Tried all the nightly builds, but the latest Firmware seems to cause a
> problem...?
>
>
>
>